RE: replace extension bookmarks with XSL 1.1 ones?

2004-12-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
 -Original Message-
 From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi Glen,

Very much in favor of changing the extension elements' names to conform with
the XSL 1.1 WD, but since that's all it is ATM, a 'Working Draft', changing
their namespace might be a bit premature (?[*]), unless we have some
certainty WRT when it's going to be approved and will get the status of
'Recommendation'.

Changing the names: +1
... the namespace: -1

Greetz,

Andreas

[*] Surely someone here will remember MS's 'blunder' when they adopted an
XSL-WD as a 'standard' too quickly...




Re: remove Runnable from PageSequenceLayoutManager?

2004-12-15 Thread Simon Pepping
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 04:39:20PM -0800, Glen Mazza wrote:
 Team,
 
 PageSequenceLayoutManager implements Runnable,
 theoretically to allow for the layout of each page
 sequence on separate threads.  The more complex
 logical aspects needed for this to happen (e.g., idref
 resolution, page numbering) though are not
 implemented, rendering this feature not very useful. 
 We're not using Runnable now, and so I'd like to yank
 it before the upcoming release--it is easy to place it
 back in later if we do this in the future releases
 (although the more extensive logic will still need to
 be developed).  Thoughts?  Objections?

It is true that nothing has been done to make threading a reality. I
do not object to your removing the Runnable interface.

Are you a fan of Extreme Programming? They seem to teach you to avoid
adding future features.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl



Re: Large files.

2004-12-15 Thread Simon Pepping
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 02:26:40PM -0700, Victor Mote wrote:
 Simon Pepping wrote:
 
  The code you presented seems to be an algorithm implementing 
  an iterator over a tree. Because it maintains its state, it 
  can be stopped and resumed at will, provided you keep a 
  reference to it.
 
  If LMIter would have a reference to its parent LMIter, and 
  could return to it after having processed all the siblings, 
  it would realize such a construct. One could stop the 
  iteration, retain a reference to the active LMIter, and resume later.
  
  Not being dependent on the Java stack would make the 
  programming much more robust. One would have more freedom to 
  insert actions, without the fear to lose the iteration state 
  if one would not carefully return to the same function.
  
  Such a construct would be equally suitable to pull parsing. 
  The LMIter call to the LM method preLoadNext would request 
  more child fo nodes, which the parser would provide on this demand.
  
  Do you want to traverse the FO tree, without relying on the 
  Java stack, and drive the layout process from there by firing 
  node events?
 
 Hi Simon:
 
 You responded to my last posting in this thread, but your questions seem to
 be directed to Finn, so I will let him answer them. Please let me know if I
 have misunderstood.

Victor,

You are right. I replied to the last message in the thread, but it
contains questions to Finn. Sorry for being unclear.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl



RE: replace extension bookmarks with XSL 1.1 ones?

2004-12-15 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Andreas L. Delmelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 the XSL 1.1 WD, but since that's all it is ATM, a
 'Working Draft', changing
 their namespace might be a bit premature (?[*]),

They're coming very close (I suspect in a few weeks at
the latest) to having a Last Call version--would it
be acceptable for you at that stage?  I don't mind
waiting a little longer.


 unless we have some
 certainty WRT when it's going to be approved and
 will get the status of
 'Recommendation'.
 

I'm more comfortable with Last Call.  Last Call -
Recommendation I suspect incurs lots of bureaucratic
delays while having few changes to the spec itself.  

At any rate, we can always drop and add XSL-NS FO
elements and properties as the spec itself is
modified.  Indeed, it's frequently the implementation
of these FO's that allows for feedback that causes
changes in the spec to occur.


 Changing the names: +1
 ... the namespace: -1
 
 Greetz,
 
 Andreas
 
 [*] Surely someone here will remember MS's 'blunder'
 when they adopted an
 XSL-WD as a 'standard' too quickly...
 

Well we can also lose in the other direction.  The
main question appears to be what's the percentage
chance of the 1.1 bookmark XSL FO's being dropped at
this stage?  If  10-20%, perhaps best to switch now
and accept a 10-20% chance of needing to change our
code later, rather than keep it in the fox: NS and
have an 80-90% chance of needing to change it later to
the fo: NS.  

Thanks,
Glen


Re: [Phishing/Spam] Moderators: a bit more careful please

2004-12-15 Thread Christian Geisert
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