Re: marketing Defoe (was: another nose for the grindstone)

2005-01-17 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Peter, it's ok if you make other people aware of your project but the way you did that in your last post disturbs me. We know that you disagree with FOP's approach, but I would have preferred a more constructive form of making Mark aware of Defoe. Maybe I'm overreacting... On 17.01.2005 06:01:27

Re: marketing Defoe

2005-01-17 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias, Do you disagree with the assessment? Clearly people might, but I didn't say anything I don't believe is the truth about the state of FOP. If it is true, isn't it fair to let newcomers know the state of play? Finn has already talked about a radically different approach in order to

Re: marketing Defoe

2005-01-17 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Peter, this is not about the question whether I disagree with the assessment. You might be right, you might be wrong. I can't tell, yet, because I'm still working my way into the new layout engine. My reaction was triggered by the way you said these things, not by any technical statement. But as

Re: marketing Defoe

2005-01-17 Thread The Web Maestro
Peter, FWIW, I was shocked by the tone of your statement as well. Not so much by any misleading or such. Rather, it was more in the way that I'm shocked by the manner that, in the US companies can discuss differences with other products in their advertisements. Had you also 'advertised' FOray

Re: marketing Defoe

2005-01-17 Thread Glen Mazza
(Don't let Peter rattle you, Jeremias--he's just jealous that I've found more XSL spec bugs than him. ;) Our delays are mostly related to advanced issues concerning layout, and the type of parser used doesn't have much effect on this issue. So I don't share Peter's conviction that FOP is in

Re: marketing Defoe

2005-01-17 Thread Peter B. West
Glen Mazza wrote: (Don't let Peter rattle you, Jeremias--he's just jealous that I've found more XSL spec bugs than him. ;) You have a lead I am unlikely to overhaul. Our delays are mostly related to advanced issues concerning layout, and the type of parser used doesn't have much effect on this