Re: Development Environment suggestions ?
I love Eclipse despite little deficiencies: - I constantly use Eclipse's CVS functions and the only problem I experience is my difficulty with the merge function which can sometimes be troublesome. - Missing remove trailing spaces function. - NPE in PDFWArray inside Eclipse (don't know whether that's because of Checkstyle or Eclipse) Some pros on the other side: - Good refactoring support - Excellent plugins available (for Checkstyle, for example) - doesn't cost much :-) What are your remaining problems with Eclipse? Only the Ant thing or something else? Just curious. IMO the changes I've done to FOP's directory structure should have fixed all problems inhibiting working in Eclipse. I do the code generation part outside Eclipse using ant codegen and include the build\gensrc directory with the generated sources inside Eclipse. On 21.11.2003 20:09:05 J.Pietschmann wrote: John Austin wrote: Peter has mentioned Eclipse and I have used VisualAge for Java, and either NetBeans or the Sun form thereof. Eclipse is good enough, open source, and available for most Unixish platforms. Using the Eclipse CVS for dealing with FOP may prove to be a bit more difficult then it ought to be (also due to CVS and FOP peculiarities), I resorted to the CVS CLI. Jeremias Maerki
Re: Development Environment suggestions ?
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I have been playing around like the Neanderthal* that I am. I use Sun Java 1.4.x with xterm, vi, emacs and occasionally Jedit when I feel modern urges. [snip] * Is that term Politically Correct ? Would it be offensive to Europeans ? I (living in Mönchengladbach, less than 40 km from Neandertal) wouldn't mind. But then again I use XEmacs, bash or ksh and Ant (of course) for all my development (and mail reading and TeX writing and coffee making and cooking and ... ;-) Stefan
RE: Development Environment suggestions ?
-Original Message- From: John Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 20, 2003 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Development Environment suggestions ? So far I have been playing around like the Neanderthal* that I am. I use Sun Java 1.4.x with xterm, vi, emacs and occasionally Jedit when I feel modern urges. Peter has mentioned Eclipse and I have used VisualAge for Java, and either NetBeans or the Sun form thereof. If you have a few bucks, you can't beat IntelliJ IDEA. I have used VisualAge and NetBeans, and also JEdit, vi and emacs, but IntelliJ has them all beat hands down. Is there a path to enlightenment (excuse the trollish tone) therein ? Given that FOP can be installed and started in TBI (The Bash IDE), are there other graphical IDE's with a reasonable learning curve ? IntelliJ is fairly easy to pick up. I have both Win98 and RH9 available to me. The RH box has more resources in addition to having the usual Linux advantages. As another poster mentioned, upgrade from Win98. Win98 has limited GDI resources (that is, the amount of memory for actual windows, visible or invisible), so is a PITA for serious development. * Is that term Politically Correct ? Would it be offensive to Europeans ? I myself am descended from Celts and probably some Angles, Jutes and Saxons. Dunno about Picts. As I understand it, Neanderthals were as smart as us Cro-Magnons. :-) AHS
Re: Development Environment suggestions ?
From: John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far I have been playing around like the Neanderthal* that I am. I use Sun Java 1.4.x with xterm, vi, emacs and occasionally Jedit when I feel modern urges. I was under the impression the project default JDK was 1.3.1. Peter has mentioned Eclipse and I have used VisualAge for Java, and either NetBeans or the Sun form thereof. Is there a path to enlightenment (excuse the trollish tone) therein ? Given that FOP can be installed and started in TBI (The Bash IDE), are there other graphical IDE's with a reasonable learning curve ? I have both Win98 and RH9 available to me. The RH box has more resources in addition to having the usual Linux advantages. Win98 is the from the unstable era of MS platforms. Win 2K or XP is much better. I'm using JBuilder as my Java IDE. I cant comment on the other tools you've discussed as I dont have access to a UNIX system. Chris _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
Re: Development Environment suggestions ?
I've been quite happy with JEdit for most everything--FOP and non-FOP the past 18 months. It's speedy and efficient. Printing is not always the best with it though, especially when there is syntax highlighting within the source file. Glen --- John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far I have been playing around like the Neanderthal* that I am. I use Sun Java 1.4.x with xterm, vi, emacs and occasionally Jedit when I feel modern urges. __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/
