Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 26.11.2003 21:32:30 J.Pietschmann wrote: Victor Mote wrote: Yes, this can get ugly. If anybody knows of a way to find the physical font file from an awt Font object, please speak up. Currently (as of 1.4.1 you can create a awt.Font from an InputStream, but you cant get back whatever

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-27 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Anyway, it's the opposite of what Victor wanted. Yeah. I think you meant return Font.createFont(Font.TRUETYPE_FONT, new FileInputStream... OOps, yes. This means users can use AWT fonts for creating PDF, but they can't embed them. This may cause the resulting PDF to fail,

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 27.11.2003 17:30:18 J.Pietschmann wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: snip/ This means users can use AWT fonts for creating PDF, but they can't embed them. This may cause the resulting PDF to fail, but so what. -- Support questions It depends. If users are still required to declare

RE: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-27 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote: And there's still the question if we can produce font metric information for the target formats (there's PCL and PostScript and..., too) that result in the desired output. The idea was to query the renderer for fonts, or get a renderer specific font

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-27 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Font configuration should/will become easier. For TrueType and Type1 fonts this should just be a matter of specifying a list of directories in which to look for fonts. A cache is needed to speed up the inventory on startup. Hmhm. Not bad. My idea is still different: Having

RE: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-26 Thread Victor Mote
Peter B. West wrote: I'm fuzzy with this stuff, but isn't renderer-context a new notion? What you are calling renderer-context was previously only associated with the renderer as such, wasn't it? I'm assuming that the renderer-context is something that amalgamates font metrics. Renderers

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-26 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: Yes, this can get ugly. If anybody knows of a way to find the physical font file from an awt Font object, please speak up. Currently (as of 1.4.1 you can create a awt.Font from an InputStream, but you cant get back whatever physical representation the font has from the awt.Font

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: I am confused by the distinction that you make between fop.PDFFont and fop.Type1Font. In my mind, there is no such concept as a fop.PDFFont, unless it is a renderer-specific class for getting a Type1Font (for example) into the PDF output. But I think that should be a method in

RE: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-22 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: Victor Mote wrote: No. Courier-Bold-Italic would be the Typeface, Courier would be the TypefaceFamily. So my Font object that gets used by FOP would be Courier-Bold-Italic at 12 points. It has a parent Typeface, which represents the Courier-Bold font file and its

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-22 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: Same general concept, except I think there is a separate class for font metrics in that system. If I can ever find a way to get to the physical file (or some representation of it) through java.awt.Font (for embedding), we would use it along with our other font scheme. I believe

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-22 Thread Jeremias Maerki
(disclaimer: Due to lack of time and a hardware failure, I haven't read everything, yet) I don't think we can rely on java.awt.Font. A FOP-defined Font interfaces is necessary to really make sure FOP gets what it need. What we came up with on the Wiki pretty much shows my ideas for the font

RE: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-22 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: I believe we should just define a fop.Font interface which is the same as awt.Font, then provide implementations fop.AWTFont, fop.PDFFont (well all the variations), fop.Type1Font etc. A configurable selector (an Avalon selector) could selcet them. This way people could

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-21 Thread Chris Bowditch
From: J.Pietschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have done some investigation into emulating the Font-variant stuff in a similar way to the maintenance branch. Victor Mote wrote: Typeface roughly corresponds to what is contained in a ttf of pfa font file. Hm hm. A TTF is typically Courier-bold-italic

RE: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-21 Thread Victor Mote
Victor Mote wrote: Victor Mote wrote: Typeface roughly corresponds to what is contained in a ttf of pfa font file. Hm hm. A TTF is typically Courier-bold-italic or so. Did you mean this or rather typeface==font-family? No. Courier-Bold-Italic would be the Typeface, Courier would

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-21 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: No. Courier-Bold-Italic would be the Typeface, Courier would be the TypefaceFamily. So my Font object that gets used by FOP would be Courier-Bold-Italic at 12 points. It has a parent Typeface, which represents the Courier-Bold font file and its contents. This typeface has a

RE: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-20 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: (Still not making sense? If you need any more intermediate steps in understanding how getters and setters actually make things work, we're just a message away ;) ) Dunno. Let me elaborate. We have FO - FOP layout - FOP renderer - output Font variant SmallCaps

Re: Font variant SmallCaps Was: Re: (Chris) Re: Traits

2003-11-20 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: Typeface roughly corresponds to what is contained in a ttf of pfa font file. Hm hm. A TTF is typically Courier-bold-italic or so. Did you mean this or rather typeface==font-family? I don't understand what you are saying here. If emulation is used, it should probably at least be