Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-07 Thread Marko Petersen
At 23:27 06.11.2002 +0100, you wrote:
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
I'm going a step further and I'm thinking about providing a development
tool for FOP.
I'm looking forward to this.
For the subject at hand, however, I think a
 fop -xml foo.xml -xsl foo.xsl -fo foo.fo
would do, and I hope I can get this even in the next
maintenance release.
J.Pietschmann
I agree, this could be helpful. I think I can remember (but not for sure)
that there was such an implementation in fop 0.15.
I often asked me: What was the reason to remove this feature?
Marko


Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread clholm
I am often generating .fo files with XML::Sablotron, and find it very
useful to
examine the source when things are not going as expected.

-Carl Holm

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> I think having the ability to view the FO source would be both very
> helpful for debugging and also great for learning what is going on.
>
> My $0.02
>
> Bob
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Showing FO output
>
> Leif Frederiksen wrote:
>
> > In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the
> > XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make
> FOP
> > do this?
>
> btw, I was thinking about implementing such a functionality (view fo
> source)
> in FOP's awt viewer, but I was not sure anybody need it, so I left that
> idea.
> What are FOP users opinions, is it needed?
>
> --
> Oleg Tkachenko
> eXperanto team
> Multiconn Technologies, Israel



Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
I'm going a step further and I'm thinking about providing a development
tool for FOP.
I'm looking forward to this.
For the subject at hand, however, I think a
 fop -xml foo.xml -xsl foo.xsl -fo foo.fo
would do, and I hope I can get this even in the next
maintenance release.
J.Pietschmann


Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I'm going a step further and I'm thinking about providing a development
tool for FOP. We've developed a simple one at work where we could
specify either FO or XML/xSLT file and an output format (FO, PDF, PS etc.).
Then we have that big "Process" button that runs the document through
Xalan and FOP. The configuration is saved when you exit, but at the
moment we don't have multiple profiles. I've got a few good ideas about
an improved tool in this direction. It would also be a good project for
someone who'd like to contribute to the FOP project but doesn't want to
go to the depths. I can elaborate if anyone is interested.

Anyway, if anyone does some work in this direction, I have a few points
I'd like to make:
- It would be good, if the AWT viewer would be separated into a viewer
  component (just the panel to display the AWT output) and the
  ready-to-use preview frame as it exists today. That may make it easier
  to embedd FOP in a Swing application if the previewer is not exactly
  what somebody wants.
- Every debugging/developer-oriented feature should also be separated
  from the above components so we don't limit their uses.

On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:56:52 +0200 Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
> Leif Frederiksen wrote:
> 
> > In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the
> > XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make FOP
> > do this?
> 
> btw, I was thinking about implementing such a functionality (view fo source) 
> in FOP's awt viewer, but I was not sure anybody need it, so I left that idea.
> What are FOP users opinions, is it needed?


Jeremias Maerki



Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread robert_hitchins
I think having the ability to view the FO source would be both very 
helpful for debugging and also great for learning what is going on.

My $0.02

Bob

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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Showing FO output


Leif Frederiksen wrote:

> In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the
> XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make 
FOP
> do this?

btw, I was thinking about implementing such a functionality (view fo 
source) 
in FOP's awt viewer, but I was not sure anybody need it, so I left that 
idea.
What are FOP users opinions, is it needed?

-- 
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel




RE: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread Leif Frederiksen
I think it would be great to have an option to output fo source directly
from fop. That way users would not have to script wrap both fop and
xalan.

Leif Frederiksen

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From: Oleg Tkachenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 6. november 2002 13:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Showing FO output


Leif Frederiksen wrote:

> In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the
> XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make
FOP
> do this?

btw, I was thinking about implementing such a functionality (view fo
source) 
in FOP's awt viewer, but I was not sure anybody need it, so I left that
idea.
What are FOP users opinions, is it needed?

-- 
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel



Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Leif Frederiksen wrote:
In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the
XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make FOP
do this?
btw, I was thinking about implementing such a functionality (view fo source) 
in FOP's awt viewer, but I was not sure anybody need it, so I left that idea.
What are FOP users opinions, is it needed?

--
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel


Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Leif Frederiksen wrote:
In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the
XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make FOP
do this?
Actually FOP processes exactly xsl-fo, not xml+xslt, so what you need is not 
FOP, but usual xslt processor.

--
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel


Re: Showing FO output

2002-11-06 Thread Marko Petersen
Hi,
just use your XSLT processor (for example XALAN, see
http://xml.apache.org/xalan-j/commandline.html).
Marko
At 13:28 06.11.2002 +0100, you wrote:
In order to debug some code, I would like to see the result of the 
XML+XSLT tranformation, not the result of the rendering. Can I make FOP do 
this?

Leif Frederiksen