Re: Bullet points in japanese
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Bullet points in japanese Date: January 16, 2008 20:19:25 GMT+01:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just noticed that I originally replied to Akagi off-list, but I think the info might be useful to other users as well, so... On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:23, Akagi Kobayashi wrote: Hi Akagi Indeed your reply helps. We build in English and in Japanese. The bullet point appears correctly for English; in Japanese it leaves a blank, not #. We don't have Symbol font installed in layout/fonts; only Arial, IPAGothic, etc. So, in English, is the bullet point using the Arial font (as specified in the gentext en.xml file as •)? Can you give a little more context? AFAICT, I see two possible scenarios: a) the stylesheet determines only the codepoint to use for list- bullets based on 'en.xml' or 'ja.xml' Japanese -> ● English -> • b) the stylesheet determines both font-family and codepoint based on those two files If the choice of font-family is determined in the stylesheet, then it becomes possible to have both languages render correctly, even with FOP's current limitation. If I changed Symbol to IPAGothic - like below - is there a risk of skewing up the English output? Possibly. I don't have the IPAGothic font to test with, but if it does not contain a glyph for both codepoints, then you risk So, maybe what you have below needs to be supplemented with an xsl:choose, that creates a font-family attribute with the right value. I'm not sure how your stylesheet can reference the language property, but let's say that's represented by '@xml:lang', then: This will make sure that all templates that use this parameter, will use that font-family list. Only, as mentioned, FOP would eventually only use the 'IPAGothic' font. Maybe you would need something like: 'Arial' 'IPAGothic'xsl:when> ... This template is unrelated to the above parameter. It would force all nodes in the source document to use the IPAGothic font, so depending on the context, it could be safer/ cleaner to make it use that xsl:param. !!! Be careful if the parameter is global, and the fo:inline could be in a different language. In that case, it may become necessary to redo the xsl:choose locally in the template to obtain the correct effect. HTH! Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bullet points in japanese
Hi Andreas Indeed your reply helps. We build in English and in Japanese. The bullet point appears correctly for English; in Japanese it leaves a blank, not #. We don't have Symbol font installed in layout/fonts; only Arial, IPAGothic, etc. So, in English, is the bullet point using the Arial font (as specified in the gentext en.xml file as •)? If I changed Symbol to IPAGothic - like below - is there a risk of skewing up the English output? > > > > Regards Akagi -Original Message- From: Andreas L Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:03 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Bullet points in japanese On Jan 14, 2008, at 16:17, Akagi Kobayashi wrote: Hi > Could you help me set the IPAGothic font as the font for the list - > so that > the bullets show? > > Bullets in IPAGothic (and in MS fonts) are ・ (• > doesn't work > for me.). > Setting the bullet in common/ja.xml text="●"/> as such doesn't work. > > In the custom stylesheet, we have the following section: > > > select="'Symbol,ZapfDingbats,LucidaUnicode'" /> I'm afraid that, as long as you don't specify the correct font-family as the first one, you won't get your bullets... :( Reason is that font-selection-strategy is unimplemented for now. FOP only looks at the first font-family (Symbol), and if that font does not have a glyph for that codepoint, then you get the dreaded '#' in your PDF... > > > > > > > > I tried adding the font name after LucindaUnicode, but that didn't > work! As stated above: it won't work, unless the 'IPAGothic' font is the first one in the list (only the first font-family is used). HTH! Cheers Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bullet points in japanese
On Jan 14, 2008, at 16:17, Akagi Kobayashi wrote: Hi Could you help me set the IPAGothic font as the font for the list - so that the bullets show? Bullets in IPAGothic (and in MS fonts) are ・ (• doesn't work for me.). Setting the bullet in common/ja.xml as such doesn't work. In the custom stylesheet, we have the following section: I'm afraid that, as long as you don't specify the correct font-family as the first one, you won't get your bullets... :( Reason is that font-selection-strategy is unimplemented for now. FOP only looks at the first font-family (Symbol), and if that font does not have a glyph for that codepoint, then you get the dreaded '#' in your PDF... I tried adding the font name after LucindaUnicode, but that didn't work! As stated above: it won't work, unless the 'IPAGothic' font is the first one in the list (only the first font-family is used). HTH! Cheers Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bullet points in japanese
Could you help me set the IPAGothic font as the font for the list - so that the bullets show? Bullets in IPAGothic (and in MS fonts) are ・ (• doesn't work for me.). Setting the bullet in common/ja.xml as such doesn't work. In the custom stylesheet, we have the following section: I tried adding the font name after LucindaUnicode, but that didn't work! Many thanks! Akagi Kobayashi, Interpreter/Translator/Technical Writer Valista -Original Message- From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:12 PM To: fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Bullet points in japanese Akagi K wrote: > Bullet points in Japanese (IPA font) do not show, when using > itemizedlist/listitem. Could anyone please show me where to set this? > I can see big bullet points in list.xml, but... could it be font dependent? Yes the glyphs available depend on the font-family selected in your FO. List items are split into Labels and Body elements. Its completely normal to use one font for the label and a different font for the body. A lot of bullet style glpyhs are available in the ZapfDingbats font. Then you can use a Font containing Japanese glyphs for the list body. Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bullet points in japanese
Akagi K wrote: Bullet points in Japanese (IPA font) do not show, when using itemizedlist/listitem. Could anyone please show me where to set this? I can see big bullet points in list.xml, but... could it be font dependent? Yes the glyphs available depend on the font-family selected in your FO. List items are split into Labels and Body elements. Its completely normal to use one font for the label and a different font for the body. A lot of bullet style glpyhs are available in the ZapfDingbats font. Then you can use a Font containing Japanese glyphs for the list body. Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bullet points in japanese
> -Message d'origine- > De : Akagi K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : mardi 30 octobre 2007 14:50 > > Bullet points in Japanese (IPA font) do not show, when using > itemizedlist/listitem. > Could anyone please show me where to set this? > I can see big bullet points in list.xml, but... could it be > font dependent? > > Many Thanks > Akagi > Posting again on this subject, as I can't see the mail I > posted yesterday on > the forum. Hi, As you said, bullet is the character • , and the used font must contain a glyph to figure it. The simplest way to be sure that you use a font containing the glyph for bullet is to use one of the 14 base fonts (Helvetica, Times, Courier, or Symbol). Pascal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bullet points in japanese
Bullet points in Japanese (IPA font) do not show, when using itemizedlist/listitem. Could anyone please show me where to set this? I can see big bullet points in list.xml, but... could it be font dependent? Many Thanks Akagi Posting again on this subject, as I can't see the mail I posted yesterday on the forum. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Bullet-points-in-japanese-tf4718591.html#a13489081 Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
