Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-27 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: Awesome, I didn't find either the JSON demo or The Doc while reading through everything. Thanks for the links! They're still very much in development, so don't get too attached to any specific behaviours :). If you find

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-27 Thread Alek Paunov
On 27.10.2011 02:15, Caleb Gray wrote: @ Stephan Beal: I see the appeal in creating a separate HTML application. I will take this approach, and will see how everyone feels about having installable skins in Fossil: shipping it with only the Default skin. +1: Absolutely - optional AJAX

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On 26/10/2011, at 5:59 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: On 10/26/2011 04:50 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Nolan Darilek no...@thewordnerd.info wrote: like to see: hooks, and the ability to query the internal database and output the results into a page. The JSON

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Stephan Beal
Hi, Caleb! i can't say much to points 1 and 2, but... 3) The web interface could use a face lift, as well as some HTML5 functionality. I've got a lot of web development experience and would love to contribute in this area, also. All of the work on the JSON APIs is a great step toward

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:51:05 -0700 Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: [...] 3) The web interface could use a face lift, as well as some HTML5 functionality. I've got a lot of web development experience and would love to contribute in this area, also. All of the work on the JSON APIs

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Ron Aaron
On 10/26/2011 10:59 AM, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: I strongly disagree. First, please don't fix what's not broken. Agree 100% P.S. I'm one of those crazy folks who usually has NoScript turned on except for the intranet sites, so yes, I'm biased. Yes, so am I ...

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:59:05PM +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: [...] I'm one of those crazy folks who usually has NoScript turned on except for the intranet sites, so yes, I'm biased. Same here. I don't think we should require c89 and html5-browsers-with-javascript at once. Regards,

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote: On 10/26/2011 10:59 AM, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: I strongly disagree. First, please don't fix what's not broken. Agree 100% FWIW, i think we're all agreed that retrofitting the main HTML interface is not The Right

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Ron Aaron
On 10/26/2011 11:15 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: imagine what we could do for version, file/dir, and diff browsing with something like: http://mbostock.github.com/d3/talk/20111018/#8 I think that things of that nature would be computationally intensive, and better suited to a separate utility

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Michael Barrow
Ditto. Please resist the temptation to make Fossil into bloatware. The best thing about the app, in my opinion, is the amount of features it has all contained in a single binary that can be deployed practically anywhere. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote: On

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Steve Havelka
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:51:05 -0700 Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: [trimmed ...] What are the community's feelings on jQuery? I get the gist that externals are trying to be avoided, so that's why I'm asking, I would love to write a library that turns the current site in to a highly

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Dmitry Chestnykh
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: 2) Add (or replace zlib with) LZMA. Some of my repositories are very large; the compression difference between the DEFLATE algorithm and the LZMA algorithm is not negligible, and can even be substantial. Recently, even

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Dmitry Chestnykh
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: 1) Compress the releases found on http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html using UPX ( http://upx.sourceforge.net/). UPX is technology from the good ol' days, when people had tiny floppies and hard drives. There's no reason

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 05:27:41PM +0200, Dmitry Chestnykh wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: 1) Compress the releases found on http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html using UPX ( http://upx.sourceforge.net/). Note that Fossil in CGI mode is

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Dmitry Chestnykh
2011/10/26 Lluís Batlle i Rossell virik...@gmail.com: Forking and executing is not the same thing. I don't know in Windows, but in unix, a fork of a upx program should be the same as a non-upx program. Fork (on *nix) applies to fossil server. Fossil's CGI is, obviously, run by webserver with

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 05:47:22PM +0200, Dmitry Chestnykh wrote: 2011/10/26 Lluís Batlle i Rossell virik...@gmail.com: Forking and executing is not the same thing. I don't know in Windows, but in unix, a fork of a upx program should be the same as a non-upx program. Fork (on *nix) applies to

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl wrote: I'm one of the noscript people, but I'm also for a nice html5 ui. But it'd better be standalone using the json api. There are _no_ plans to replace the current HTML interface. In the scope of the JSON API

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.comwrote: API we'll almost certainly create a separate interface (quite possibly as a separate project) Just to be clear: that would not mean a fork or other fundamental split from fossil. One of the main purposes of the JSON

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Nolan Darilek
Just to chime in here: I like the JSON work, but I hope we'll eventually see a more dynamic means of creating internal HTML pages. After about a year of using Fossil, there are two features I'd dearly like to see: hooks, and the ability to query the internal database and output the results

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Nolan Darilek no...@thewordnerd.infowrote: like to see: hooks, and the ability to query the internal database and output the results into a page. The JSON API provides a query command[1] which allows you to run arbitrary queries and get the results as JSON,

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski
On Oct 26, 2011, at 11:50 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: The topic of real hooks has come up many times, and the main reason it hasn't been added so far is platform portability. (Sorry, i don't mean to start another dead-horse-beating thread.) Nope, this has already been resolved. The reason now is

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Nolan Darilek
On 10/26/2011 04:50 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Nolan Darilek no...@thewordnerd.info mailto:no...@thewordnerd.info wrote: like to see: hooks, and the ability to query the internal database and output the results into a page. The JSON API provides a query

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Caleb Gray
@ Stephan Beal: I see the appeal in creating a separate HTML application. I will take this approach, and will see how everyone feels about having installable skins in Fossil: shipping it with only the Default skin. Awesome, I didn't find either the JSON demo or The Doc while reading through

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-26 Thread Dmitry Chestnykh
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:15:11 -0700 Caleb Gray ca...@calebgray.com wrote: @Dmitry Chestnykh: I just wrote a script for testing the speed and size difference between the different compressions available, find the results here: http://uploads.calebgray.com/contributions/compression/index.html

[fossil-users] Fossil is Awesome

2011-10-25 Thread Caleb Gray
I've recently discovered Fossil, and have been migrating all of my repositories over to it. I was wondering about a few questions that I've come up with since I started using Fossil in my day to day life and wanted to see what the community's thoughts were on them. 1) Compress the releases found