Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-07-03 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 26/06/18 13:22, j. van den hoff wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:58:42 +0200, Andy Goth > wrote: > >> I think the next project that needs this feature should write a >> utility script for themselves that uses the uv commands to extract >> files however makes sense for them.  This live expe

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-07-03 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, I share J. approach on this. Unversioned files, *when* used inside a repo, containing relative paths should provide more automatization, for example, when making some sync or cloning. Of course, you may not want to sync each unversioned file each time (for example when large PDFs are unversion

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-27 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 17:48:43 +0200, Andy Goth wrote: On 06/27/18 03:50, j. van den hoff wrote: but doing it via shell commands remains a hack/workaround. fossil providing functionality to treat uv-files and tracked files mostly on equal footing during ci/co/up/push/pull/sync (considering,

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-27 Thread Andy Goth
On 06/27/18 03:50, j. van den hoff wrote: but doing it via shell commands remains a hack/workaround. fossil providing functionality to treat uv-files and tracked files mostly on equal footing during ci/co/up/push/pull/sync (considering, of course, that there is no history/no deltas for uv-files

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-27 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:58:42 +0200, Andy Goth wrote: I think the next project that needs this feature should write a utility script for themselves that uses the uv commands to extract files however makes sense for them. well, AFAIAC, I would be happy if fossil would support the equivalen

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Stéphane Aulery
Le 26/06/2018 à 19:40, Richard Hipp a écrit : On 6/26/18, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: But now I am confused by this thread? If/When I add unversioned files, are their original paths stripped? Are they stored differently than source code? Unversioned files were created for the purpose of provid

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:58:42 +0200, Andy Goth wrote: I think the next project that needs this feature should write a utility script for themselves that uses the uv commands to extract files however makes sense for them. This live experimentation is necessary to figure what is needed in

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/26/18, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: > But now I am confused by this thread? > If/When I add unversioned files, are their original paths stripped? > Are they stored differently than source code? > Unversioned files were created for the purpose of providing a place to store build products when Fo

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Andy Goth
On 06/26/18 12:10, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote: My repo's were built prior to the unversioned feature, so I have not used this yet. And there is no benefit to migrating my candidate files to unversioned since their history will remain in the repo without complex shunning. But now I am confused by

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread sky5walk
My repo's were built prior to the unversioned feature, so I have not used this yet. And there is no benefit to migrating my candidate files to unversioned since their history will remain in the repo without complex shunning. But now I am confused by this thread? If/When I add unversioned files, are

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Andy Goth
I think the next project that needs this feature should write a utility script for themselves that uses the uv commands to extract files however makes sense for them. This live experimentation is necessary to figure what is needed in practice. No one is forced to wait for any changes to be ma

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:33:22 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:45 PM wrote: ​Can unversioned files respect their original paths when added? I have several locations for bitmaps, icons, pdf's, etc. They do not necessarily reside in an isolated folder.​ yes, same here, *

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:45 PM wrote: > ​Can unversioned files respect their original paths when added? > I have several locations for bitmaps, icons, pdf's, etc. > They do not necessarily reside in an isolated folder.​ > That wouldn't work cross-platform. You might store file the C:\D\e\f.txt

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:12:54 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote: On 6/26/18, j. van den hoff wrote: turning this setting on by default might also offer the "least surprise" for the user It isn't an on/off setting. I was not clear. The setting is the name of the directory that is the root of the unv

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/26/18, j. van den hoff wrote: > turning this setting on by default might also offer the "least > surprise" for the user It isn't an on/off setting. I was not clear. The setting is the name of the directory that is the root of the unversioned file hierarchy. An empty string for this setting

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:31:32 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote: My thought was to provide a new setting (perhaps versionable) that specified a directory relative to the root of the check-out into which unversioned files are written whenever one does "fossil update" or "fossil checkout". If the setting

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread sky5walk
​Can unversioned files respect their original paths when added? I have several locations for bitmaps, icons, pdf's, etc. They do not necessarily reside in an isolated folder.​ Thanks for the new Fossil features! On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > My thought was to provide a

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Richard Hipp
My thought was to provide a new setting (perhaps versionable) that specified a directory relative to the root of the check-out into which unversioned files are written whenever one does "fossil update" or "fossil checkout". If the setting is missing or empty, then Fossil works as it does now. If

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 17:08:48 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote: Unversioned files do not appear in the local check-out, by design. It would be an enhancement to make them do so. But you are not the first to request that capability. I've been on a Fossil-enhancement binge lately - perhaps I can find

Re: [fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread Richard Hipp
Unversioned files do not appear in the local check-out, by design. It would be an enhancement to make them do so. But you are not the first to request that capability. I've been on a Fossil-enhancement binge lately - perhaps I can find the time to fix that for you... On 6/26/18, j. van den hoff

[fossil-users] `unversioned' questions

2018-06-26 Thread j. van den hoff
today I convinced a colleague to give fossil a try. so we set up a project (two checkouts/clones, one central server/repo), using a planned journal article (to be written in latex) as the test case. now, while I never have used 'unversioned files' so far, he immediately wanted to try this o