Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:51 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is a great plan. I didn't say it was great or even good. Only that is what we were told to do. Or not be allowed to generate email from the Fossil repos. ___

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread mario
Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:02:18 +0200 John Found johnfo...@asm32.info: IMO, everything is in reverse. GitHub is not popular, because Git is great SCM. Git is popular because is used by GitHub! Notice that GitHub is not only repository hosting. It is a social network for developers. That is why it

Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui not working with recent chrome browser

2015-03-16 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi, On 14 March 2015 at 05:12, a...@gmx-topmail.de a...@gmx-topmail.de wrote: This is what does show the problems for me (on Windows 7): fossil init test.fossil fossil ui test.fossil then use chrome version 41.0.2272.89 m to navigate to e.g. the new ticket page, of which only the summary

Re: [fossil-users] Browser support

2015-03-16 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: The timeline graph is drawn using JS. Without JS you do not get the very nice timeline graph. I don't see any reasonable way around that. Hi, it’s the resident pro web app developer checking in again. :) There are at least

Re: [fossil-users] Browser support

2015-03-16 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Warren, On 16 March 2015 at 17:50, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: Hi, it’s the resident pro web app developer checking in again. :) There are at least three ways to create the timeline without Javascript. Do you have examples of these three methods? Just curious, what would a HTML5

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread David Mason
Does the server fossil know the version number of the client fossil on a clone? Or could it ask? If so, it could do what Andy suggests. ../Dave On 16 March 2015 at 14:24, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/16/15, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Stephan Beal on

Re: [fossil-users] Browser support

2015-03-16 Thread bch
On 3/16/15, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/16/15, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: The timeline graph is drawn using JS. Without JS you do not get the very nice timeline graph. I don't see any reasonable way

Re: [fossil-users] Xekri skin: weird dropdowns on timeline page in Opera

2015-03-16 Thread Andrew Moore
Hello Tontyna! Thank you for the information about the problem you ran into with the Xekri skin. I don't have access to Opera, so I can not test any fixes to make sure it would work equally on Chrome and Firefox. A possible fix which uses -o-display: block for the div.submenu has been pushed to

Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz

2015-03-16 Thread James Moger
I sent DRH a new bundle with some tweaks. - set padding on a instead of li in .mainmenu - adjust font-sizes on diff panels to 1rem, Blitz is 1rem=10px. 0.85rem is too small. - set the timeline checkin-id to lowercase rather than uppercase As for the content-width... the reason to set a max

Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz

2015-03-16 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 16 March 2015 at 15:13, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I sent DRH a new bundle with some tweaks. - set padding on a instead of li in .mainmenu - adjust font-sizes on diff panels to 1rem, Blitz is 1rem=10px. 0.85rem is too small. - set the timeline checkin-id to lowercase rather

Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui not working with recent chrome browser

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/16/15, a...@gmx-topmail.de a...@gmx-topmail.de wrote: 6) my own remote fossil standalone instances on Linux server - incomplete pages for all browsers except firefox, which shows complete pages Are you able to set up a such an instance that we can access to investigate the problem? --

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 14 March 2015 at 18:48, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Richard Hipp on Sat, 14 Mar 2015 00:05:07 -0400: Am I wrong to think that clicking through the changes in a project (not necessarily from the beginning, but from some signification event, say the

Re: [fossil-users] Veracity Version control

2015-03-16 Thread James Moger
the one guy behind it also wrote a book about VCSs called Version Control By Example That one guy (Eric Sink) is actually a pretty well-respected VCS developer small business owner; Veracity was not a one-man project, it was an Apache licensed company product. In the early 2000s if you had to

Re: [fossil-users] Browser support

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/16/15, Chad Clabaugh chadclaba...@gmail.com wrote: Is there an official list of supported browsers? I've been unable to find any references in the documentation. If not, can one be added? There is no official list. The correct answer, though, should be as many as possible. The idea is

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: The requirement, specifically, is that the first artifact that the server sends during a clone, must be a checkin, or older Fossil clients will end up in this state. Could the server side be modified to

Re: [fossil-users] Browser support

2015-03-16 Thread Tim Chase
On 2015-03-16 12:04, Richard Hipp wrote: Is there an official list of supported browsers? I've been unable to find any references in the documentation. If not, can one be added? There is no official list. The correct answer, though, should be as many as possible. The idea is to keep the

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: On 16/03/15 13:30, Ron W wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net mailto:gra...@pietersz.net gra...@pietersz.net wrote: 1) email notifications, the most important for me Can

Re: [fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/16/15, Richie Adler richiead...@gmail.com wrote: After the latest upgrades, I've been unable to see the timeline graphs if I have more than 36 items in the timeline. The space for the graph remains, but nothing is drawn. The weirdest thing is that I have reverted to old versions and I'm

[fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Richie Adler
After the latest upgrades, I've been unable to see the timeline graphs if I have more than 36 items in the timeline. The space for the graph remains, but nothing is drawn. The weirdest thing is that I have reverted to old versions and I'm still unable to see the full graph! I can see it in the

[fossil-users] ANSI color would be nice

2015-03-16 Thread James Moger
If you're looking for improvement ideas (unfortunately without a corresponding contribution this time), ANSI color support would be a nice usability improvement. I suppose Windows could be a problem for that. -J ___ fossil-users mailing list

Re: [fossil-users] Git-v-Fossil. Was: Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread James Moger
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Fossil was created to support the development of SQLite. All other use (and there is more and more of that lately) is just gravy. They all start somewhere. :) Git Hg were both written to solve the Linux kernel's

Re: [fossil-users] New skin: Blitz

2015-03-16 Thread James Moger
It depends on the selected toolkit, but there are generally two approaches: 1. allow reflow 2. show/hide Blitz is based on Skeleton without any of the response classes. Skeleton supports reflow only. http://getskeleton.com/#grid Bootstrap - much heavier/larger and more powerful - supports

Re: [fossil-users] ANSI color would be nice

2015-03-16 Thread Andreas Kupries
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:32 AM, bch brad.har...@gmail.com wrote: if anybody tackles this, I sure hope it's a non-default selectable option. The colors themselves must be user-definable as well. Not just because people have slightly different preferences, but also because of differing

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread James Turner
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 10:24:05PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/14/15, James Turner ja...@calminferno.net wrote: It appears the actual tarballs were also removed. While I understand the reasoning behind this, this will break automated build systems like ports in OpenBSD for stable

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: (there is a ticket change hook now?). Supposedly there is, and other hooks, but I've never seen documentation. But, supposedly, the TH1 thus invoked by the hook can, if enabled, touch a URL. With an appropriately

Re: [fossil-users] Git-v-Fossil. Was: Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Scott Robison
On Mar 16, 2015 9:44 AM, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Fossil was created to support the development of SQLite. All other use (and there is more and more of that lately) is just gravy. They all start

Re: [fossil-users] ANSI color would be nice

2015-03-16 Thread bch
if anybody tackles this, I sure hope it's a non-default selectable option. On 3/16/15, James Moger james.mo...@gmail.com wrote: If you're looking for improvement ideas (unfortunately without a corresponding contribution this time), ANSI color support would be a nice usability improvement. I

Re: [fossil-users] ANSI color would be nice

2015-03-16 Thread Stephan Beal
fwiw: libfossil has this ability, and backporting it into fossil would not be problematic. i am still on medical leave for nerve damage for the foreseeable future, so i can't personally commit (as it were) to it. - sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity, auto-correction, typos, and

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Stephan Beal
wiki-/ticket-only repos might not have a manifest at all. - sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity, auto-correction, typos, and top-posting. On Mar 16, 2015 5:21 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote:

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Vikrant Chaudhary
i, for one, am glad that _our_ Benevolent Dictator behaves like an empathic human being in public. I second this statement. :-) Cheers. - Vikrant On 14 March 2015 at 18:43, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote:

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:41:34 +0100: wiki-/ticket-only repos might not have a manifest at all. Then these types of repositories would have to be unclonable by older versions of Fossil. The server would have to refuse the clone request (similar to how it refuses to

Re: [fossil-users] Browser support

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/16/15, Tim Chase fos...@tim.thechases.com wrote: On 2015-03-16 12:04, Richard Hipp wrote: Is there an official list of supported browsers? I've been unable to find any references in the documentation. If not, can one be added? There is no official list. The correct answer, though,

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:45 AM, John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: The first step towards such achievement is to allow all Fossil users to exists in one common username space. OpenID authentication could help to make this without big effort. OpenID support would be a nice addition.

Re: [fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Richie Adler on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:53:34 -0300: JavaScript issue? Disabled NoScript and for more security restarted Firefox with no extensions enabled. Same thing. I wonder if perhaps some cross-site scripting blocking tool is blocking it? Andy -- TAI64 timestamp:

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said David Mason on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:35:51 -0400: Does the server fossil know the version number of the client fossil on a clone? Or could it ask? If so, it could do what Andy suggests. Not currently. The client version is not currently exchanged during cloning. The only piece of

Re: [fossil-users] Xekri skin: weird dropdowns on timeline page in Opera

2015-03-16 Thread Vikrant Chaudhary
The current version of Opera is 28, you should probably update your Browser. You are using a 2 year old version which comes with Presto engine (development of which is now discontinued by Opera), while newer versions use Blink engine. Cheers. - Vikrant On 17 March 2015 at 04:24, Tontyna

[fossil-users] Xekri skin: weird dropdowns on timeline page in Opera

2015-03-16 Thread Tontyna
Opera (12.17/Win32) produces gigantic selects -- see attached screenshot. Culprit is the display: flex property of div.submenu - Tontyna ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: What would still be missing would be some way of letting users decide which tickets they wanted to be notified about. Customise the tickets table? We added a custom field to hold email addresses. Similar to the CC

Re: [fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Richie Adler
El 16/03/2015 a las 17:10, Tontyna escibió: The weirdest thing is that I have reverted to old versions and I'm still unable to see the full graph! First idea: cached stylesheet? Cleared the cache to no avail. Although that wouldn't explain why you can see 36 items on the Fossil site but

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: What would still be missing would be some way of letting users decide which tickets they wanted to be notified about. Customise the tickets table? Another option would be to use a list server. But even with one that

Re: [fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
If you do View Page Source, does the HTML appear to be truncated? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Ron, On 16 March 2015 at 14:41, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:51 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is a great plan. I didn't say it was great or even good. Only that is what we were told to do. Or not be allowed to generate email

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:48 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, putting a private, internally worked on repo behind a firewall is good. There are many new features we'd all like Fossil to have but I'll take fewer and fewer bugs over new features. ;) Agree on both points.

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:01:21PM +0100, mario wrote: Social network is a nice metaphor. But it's also just a side-effect of having a data silo. Actually, I think that's the far bigger item. GitHub has managed something which SourceForge never had -- a stable service. Most developer

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Saturday, March 14, 2015, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On 3/14/15, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The key difference is that, in git, the puller can force the in coming commits to be remapped into branches of their own. That is, I could commit my changes to

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread John Found
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:02:18 +0200 John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: But, for example fossil can provide some way to connect the stand alone repositories and developers in some kind of distributed peer-to-peer network and to provide some interaction - I don't know - maybe some voting,

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-16 Thread Vikrant Chaudhary
But, for example fossil can provide some way to connect the stand alone repositories and developers in some kind of distributed peer-to-peer network and to provide some interaction - I don't know - maybe some voting, messaging, clone tracking, collaborative environment, pull requests,

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 16/03/15 22:30, Ron W wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net mailto:gra...@pietersz.net wrote: On 16/03/15 13:30, Ron W wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net mailto:gra...@pietersz.net

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 17/03/15 00:27, jungle Boogie wrote: On 16 March 2015 at 11:33, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: So you need an RSS to email script or service that can login to the Fossil site. Or permissions for nobody to view the rss feed. I cannot find a separate RSS permission. Unless

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil version 1.32

2015-03-16 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/16/15, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 18:41:34 +0100: wiki-/ticket-only repos might not have a manifest at all. Then these types of repositories would have to be unclonable by older versions of Fossil. The server would have

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread jungle Boogie
On 16 March 2015 at 11:33, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: So you need an RSS to email script or service that can login to the Fossil site. Or permissions for nobody to view the rss feed. -- --- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Grame, On 16 March 2015 at 12:10, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: On 17/03/15 00:27, jungle Boogie wrote: On 16 March 2015 at 11:33, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: So you need an RSS to email script or service that can login to the Fossil site. Or permissions

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:22 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it won't be private, so you'll be stuck having your password in some rss fetch thing. One would have to weigh the risks. Where I work, we allow - in Fossil - nobody to view the time line because only

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Ron, On 16 March 2015 at 12:38, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:22 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it won't be private, so you'll be stuck having your password in some rss fetch thing. One would have to weigh the risks. Where I

Re: [fossil-users] Missing timeline graph above 36 timeline items (?!)

2015-03-16 Thread Tontyna
The weirdest thing is that I have reverted to old versions and I'm still unable to see the full graph! First idea: cached stylesheet? Although that wouldn't explain why you can see 36 items on the Fossil site but not on localhost. Can't imagine that the HTML served by fossil.exe is sooo

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 17/03/15 01:08, Ron W wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:22 PM, jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com mailto:jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it won't be private, so you'll be stuck having your password in some rss fetch thing. One would have to weigh the risks. Where

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net wrote: No one system has all these, but looking at multiple ticket trackers, the obvious things to me are: 1) email notifications, the most important for me Can currently be accomplished with external (to Fossil) service,

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 16/03/15 13:30, Ron W wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net mailto:gra...@pietersz.net wrote: No one system has all these, but looking at multiple ticket trackers, the obvious things to me are: 1) email notifications, the most important for me

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Graeme Pietersz
On 16/03/15 13:30, Ron W wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Graeme Pietersz gra...@pietersz.net mailto:gra...@pietersz.net wrote: No one system has all these, but looking at multiple ticket trackers, the obvious things to me are: 1) email notifications, the most important

Re: [fossil-users] Google code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Luca Ferrari
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Jan Danielsson jan.m.daniels...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/03/15 20:55, Richard Hipp wrote: Few organizations have the problem that the full power of Git solves. And yet many organizations voluntarily take on the problems that come with using Git. Weird. One