Re: [Foundation-l] WikiQueer

2012-03-03 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Gregory, Congratulations on WikiQueer - this is a valuable project, and the very best wishes for it. I'd like to bring your attention to a discussion held at the recently concluded WikiConference India:

[Foundation-l] How Do You Cite a Tweet in an Academic Paper?

2012-03-03 Thread Achal Prabhala
From the MLA (Modern Languages Association) via the Atlantic: Begin the entry in the works-cited list with the author's real name and, in parentheses, user name, if both are known and they differ. If only the user name is known, give it alone. Next provide the entire text of the tweet in

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 23 February 2012 12:58 AM, Sarah wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Tom, and Sarah, for your very helpful explanations - they are extremely useful. There's a discussion on at the reliable sources notice board, for instance,

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 23 February 2012 01:10 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: Splitting this off, Achal, I hope that's OK :) There's a discussion on at the reliable sources notice board, for instance, which highlights some of the interpretive problems you raise:

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
Andrew Lih and Steven Walling and Timothy Messer-Kruse on NPR, discussing exactly this today: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1t=1islist=falseid=147261659m=147261652 On Thursday 23 February 2012 08:11 AM, Robin McCain wrote: Well, I'm not an active academic, but I have

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 01:36 PM, Peter Gervai wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 03:35, George Herbertgeorge.herb...@gmail.com wrote: By far the majority of people who come up and buck the system or challenge established knowledge in this manner are, in fact, kooks or people with an

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 03:45 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Jokes aside :) the problem here is exemplary of what Wikipedia *doesn't* do well, which is to find ways to assess the legitimacy of not-yet-legitimised knowledge I'm not seeing a good argument that we *should* assess the

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 06:59 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 22 February 2012 13:11, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 22 February 2012 03:45 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Jokes aside :) the problem here is exemplary of what Wikipedia *doesn't* do well, which is to

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 08:08 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: Journals pose a particular problem as they are often, as in the case of the three journal articles in this case, behind pay walls. Those are peer reviewed, while his book by a commercial publisher has not received academic reviews.

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
Thank you Tom, and Sarah, for your very helpful explanations - they are extremely useful. There's a discussion on at the reliable sources notice board, for instance, which highlights some of the interpretive problems you raise:

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal doesn't like morphed images of colleagues

2011-12-08 Thread Achal Prabhala
A useful update on this situation, for anyone interested: http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10pid=2665* * On Wednesday 07 December 2011 04:09 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 06/12/2011 4:21 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Unless he casts his net wider I'm personally more concerned

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social

2011-12-06 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 08:27 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: (Also: seeing reporting on facebook and twitter activity, and having viewed pages from eg. Hindi Wikipedia, I do not believe that the Indian internet community shares Kapil Sibal's position. Though they'll have to speak for

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social

2011-12-06 Thread Achal Prabhala
, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Kim Bruningk...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 09:25:03PM +0530, Achal Prabhala wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2011 08:27 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: I do not believe that the Indian internet community shares Kapil Sibal's position. Though they'll have to speak

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-15 Thread Achal Prabhala
Can we not pick on a person whose POV is that he wishes to participate in the Wikimedia movement in the fullest way possible? Pick on me instead. Oh wait... Best wishes, Achal On Tuesday 15 November 2011 07:40 PM, Béria Lima wrote: OMG Gomà, can´t you leave any thread in peace without push

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-15 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hi Beria, I'm sorry - I wrote this in a hurry and don't necessarily want to further crowd foundation-l. The point about Goma is that he (and other Catalan Wikipedians) don't need to feel any more excluded than they already do (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_CAT/en) The point

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo Anirudh, Lodewijk, While I think that this discussion is very useful, it has been happening for some time - I know that Anirudh has raised these questions before, for instance. In that sense, I'm not sure how the registration of a trust changes the situation at all; I think that for

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Achal Prabhala
to confuse terms that sound and look similar. Theo Best wishes, Achal On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: Hallo Anirudh, Lodewijk, While I think that this discussion is very useful, it has been happening for some time - I know that Anirudh has

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Achal Prabhala
however, I would be happy to go into much more detail for your elucidation. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Theo On 11 November 2011 14:10, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Ohai Achal As usual, I disagree. ?? I didn't realise

[Foundation-l] The copyright question: What would Gandhi do?

2011-10-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
A friend of mine in South Africa, Isabel Hofmeyr, passed on this image of the first page of the first edition of the English translation of Gandhi's Hind Swaraj - or Indian Home Rule in translation. (Hind Swaraj was the blueprint for India's freedom movement). The book was published in South

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 30 September 2011 10:54 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Bishakha Dattabishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Milos Rancicmill...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:24, Riskerrisker...@gmail.com wrote: Milos, I believe

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 30 September 2011 11:19 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.comwrote: On Friday 30 September 2011 10:54 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Bishakha Dattabishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 30 September 2011 11:47 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.comwrote: On Friday 30 September 2011 11:19 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.com wrote: How about an encyclopedia?

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 15 September 2011 12:40 AM, Andrew Lih wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Sarahslimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:34, Andrew Lihandrew@gmail.com wrote: And, in Wikipedia's crowdsourced way, potentially a re-oriented, mobilized Wikinews could

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 15 September 2011 01:43 AM, David Gerard wrote: On 14 September 2011 21:02, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.com wrote: It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that the world now follows the Wikinews model. No, you're describing bare skimming of the unedited social media pool.

Re: [Foundation-l] Remedying systemic bias (was On curiosity, cats and scapegoats)

2011-09-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Monday 12 September 2011 02:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: [subject changed] On 12 September 2011 08:46, Yaroslav M. Blanterpute...@mccme.ru wrote: Right, but we do have this systemic bias already in place: in ALL our projects, the articles on localities in Sweden are longer and better

Re: [Foundation-l] Informing chapters about closing/opening wikis (+ useful list)

2011-09-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Saturday 10 September 2011 05:28 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: Good execpt some errors. Italian is national language in switzerland. Ilario On 10 Sep 2011 00:54, Robin Pepermansrobinp.1...@gmail.com wrote: An idea that I raised during a discussion between the language committee and

Re: [Foundation-l] Informing chapters about closing/opening wikis (+ useful list)

2011-09-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Saturday 10 September 2011 06:07 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 14:17, Achal Prabhalaaprabh...@gmail.com wrote: This is an excellent idea. However, to cut down on frivolous closure requests, will you also make more explicit on the page (within the policy) that requests

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-05 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Monday 05 September 2011 03:53 AM, Kim Bruning wrote: On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 11:54:44PM +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote: Yes, exactly! You're smart! :-) Now, one definition of censorship is : * Filtering on the basis of prejudicial labels. We're not actually allowed to censor, because

[Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
An interesting thing happened today. I started receiving frantic calls this morning from an officer at the National Gallery of Modern Art in Bangalore, who shall go unnamed. She had got my number from a colleague, who I met in the course of a GLAM meeting we organised earlier in the year. This

[Foundation-l] Oral citations project update: more articles + full English subtitle track

2011-07-29 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear friends, A quick update on the oral citations project. 1) We have now posted sample articles in all 3 project languages, Malayalam, Sepedi and Hindi: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Oral_Citations#Articles.2F_Discussions_.28in_development.29 2) A full English subtitle track for

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Tom and David, On Wednesday 27 July 2011 03:03 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: This is a really interesting and thoughtfully complete project. As an editor I am cautious of how well these could be used as citations without falling afoul of original research. The first problem I see is that

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo (responses inline) On Wednesday 27 July 2011 06:02 PM, CasteloBranco wrote: And why does the people who speaks Malayalam, Hindi and Sepedi need to write in English in order to have those oral citations published? Yes, we don't. We have Sepedi, Malayalam and Hindi Wikipedias to work on.

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo, (responses inline) On Wednesday 27 July 2011 11:36 PM, Wjhonson wrote: You should not create your own videos and then publish them on Wikipedia. You should create videos or audio tracks of oral interviews, and then publish them. We did not create our own videos and then publish them on

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Ziko, On Wednesday 27 July 2011 09:38 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, Today I found the time to read the messages about the Oral Citations project and watch the film People are Knowledge. I hope that we can go on in this discussion without accusations about racism etc. In science, it

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo, (responses inline) On Wednesday 27 July 2011 11:57 PM, Wjhonson wrote: For actual quotations from sources, you should quote the source exactly. Then you will never be using original research. I don't actually understand what this means. If you look at the articles created:

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo, (responses inline) On Thursday 28 July 2011 12:27 AM, Wjhonson wrote: Achal I was responding to Thomas not to you. However yes, if you are quoting what an interviewee is saying, you should use quotation marks to offset their statements. Or even use the blockquote markup for a lengthy

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Castelo, On Thursday 28 July 2011 12:25 AM, CasteloBranco wrote: Tom, The fundamental difference in our views is that you talk about translation, and i'm talking about another thing. The projects are not bare translations of another language version (let's say, the English version).

[Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear friends, At the beginning of 2011, a group of us began working on a project to explore alternative methods of citation on Wikipedia. We were motivated by the lack of published resources in much of the non-Anglo-European world, and the very real difficulty of citing everyday aspects of lived

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
Sreejith's point is that proving the date of authorship in commonly used religious iconography is difficult; it's also difficult to work through the dates of derivatives of the 'original' work in order to establish which versions have what period - if any - of copyright validity left. For what

[Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011-01-20 Thread Achal Prabhala
unknown by the community, obviously not. E. Forrester On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, MZMcBridez at mzmcbride.com https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l wrote: / Hi. // // As Daniel noted in his earlier e-mail to the list, Achal Prabhala is now a // Wikimedia Fellow.[1

Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011-01-20 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 21 January 2011 07:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Achal Prabhala wrote: Greetings, I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy to assume that you fully intended for your messages to come across