Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

2011-12-23 Thread Platonides
On 23/12/11 16:30, John Du Hart wrote: This is currently on the reddit front page http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nnv9l/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/ Everybody there seem to know whatever evil thoughts GoDaddy said, but there's no reference supporting that. Why

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia dumps downloader

2011-06-28 Thread Platonides
emijrp wrote: Hi; @Derrick: I don't trust Amazon. I disagree. Note that we only need them to keep a redundant copy of a file. If they tried to tamper the file we could detect it with the hashes (which should be properly secured, that's no problem). I'd like having the hashes for the xml

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia dumps downloader

2011-06-28 Thread Platonides
emijrp wrote: I didn't mean security problems. I meant just deleted files by weird terms of service. Commons hosts a lot of images which can be problematic, like nudes or copyrighted materials in some jurisdictions. They can deleted what they want and close every account they want, and we

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wiki-research-l] Wikipedia dumps downloader

2011-06-27 Thread Platonides
emijrp wrote: Hi SJ; You know that that is an old item in our TODO list ; ) I heard that Platonides developed a script for that task long time ago. Platonides, are you there? Regards, emijrp Yes, I am. :) ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-09 Thread Platonides
Just create your own tld ;) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Wikiwix porn ads (was: Advertising on Wikipedia)

2011-01-22 Thread Platonides
F.-F. Duron a écrit: Yes, but maybe you can control the partnerships you're making! Wikipedia is one of the most visited websites in the world. Don't you think there is a problem here?? Ça me semble malhereuse. Je ne croix pas que wikiwix a directement placé ces pubs mais quelque annonce

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

2010-12-31 Thread Platonides
Ryan Lomonaco wrote: I think this has been brought up before, but a thought I've had: Apart from the fact that it will require a ton of work in coding, what would keep us from separating templates (and, for that matter, images) from the article text? Article text would exist by itself, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Old Wikipedia backups discovered

2010-12-23 Thread Platonides
phoebe ayers wrote: It's not news but AFAIK an actual image of the flag used is missing. So if that turns up, that would be cool :) But I think it was already gone by Feb. 2001. -- phoebe Isn't it the first piece of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terribly_wrong.png ?

Re: [Foundation-l] Should we offer to host citizendium?

2010-11-16 Thread Platonides
David Gerard wrote: On 12 November 2010 14:57, Ziko van Dijk wrote: I just cannot imagine that Larry Sanger could bear to see his beloved Citizendium on a Wikimedia server, among all that child pornography he is supposing there. It's not his any more. (Part of their problem is that he

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors

2010-09-17 Thread Platonides
MZMcBride wrote: John Vandenberg wrote: The key would be to allow the mirrors to delete their mirror when they need to use their excess storage capability. If they let us know in advance that they are reclaiming the space, another organisation with excess storage capability can take over.

Re: [Foundation-l] Stewards acting locally

2010-08-08 Thread Platonides
Aaron Adrignola wrote: I appreciate your detailed explanation. If a page at Meta could be created to explain this and linked to from the edit summaries this would do much to eliminate confusion amongst local administrators. I do have a concern, however. I've checked the SUL statuses for

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Wikipedia...

2010-06-17 Thread Platonides
geni wrote: Well I can search wikipedia-en-l as far back as 13.09.04 and I'm not coming up with anything. Running google searches for mentions pre 2006 doesn't turn up anything however use explodes in 2006 which is rather fast if than jan 2006 use is the first. I grepped for it in

Re: [Foundation-l] Did you say usability ?

2010-06-15 Thread Platonides
Teofilo wrote: 2010/6/15, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org: Could you provide me with the exact operating system and browser versions you are using? Thanks. I replied at

Re: [Foundation-l] Link in the Downloads section

2010-06-14 Thread Platonides
Wilfredo Rodriguez wrote: Sincerely wikimedia team. I have a simple question. I would like to make a proposal to add an application (link) wikipedia offline here: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/dvd.html Who should I contact? The project that I want to add is called Kiwix and is free:

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector improves the visibility of interwikis, reader said

2010-06-11 Thread Platonides
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: «You're marvellous. I've particularly appreciated the languages menu and I think that in the future it will be even more important (Indian, Chinese etc.).» Funny feedback from a reader here:

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010-06-07 Thread Platonides
Andrew Garrett wrote: I will say to be fair that the best response to what you perceive as a poor design choice in somebody else's code is not to revert them and say There, I fixed it for you. Thank me later., but perhaps to discuss it with them first and find a compromise. There's an

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010-06-04 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Now, mind you, I don't necessary support getting rid of the interlanguage links. I'm mostly objecting to the reasoning being brought forward for that point, which seems to be mostly: * Some unknown number of users might somehow end up at a wiki they don't understand and

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010-06-03 Thread Platonides
James Alexander wrote: We have a couple threads on this issue but picking the most recent :). It appears that this has now been changed ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23497 ) and so once the next revision is pushed live the interwikis would be visible by default. James

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: SignWriting Encyclopedia Projects...new SignWriting Wiki

2010-05-29 Thread Platonides
Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, The creation of a wiki for SignWriting is a* very* exciting development. In the language committee we have indicated that technical issues are what prevents a Wikipedia for sign languages at this time. The SignWriting wiki is effectively an incubator for the

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Platonides
Jay Walsh wrote: Right now volunteers are working with the new localization guide to create the hundreds of new identities needed for each language variation of Wikipedia. You can see the Commons gallery filling up here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0 This should the

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Platonides
Mike.lifeguard wrote: The globe isn't actually too small, I think it just _looks_ that way because: 1) the new logo has more space in it, in particular at the top 2) the new logo is typically viewed with Vector, which has more space around the logo than monobook did. Take a look at the

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Platonides
Brian S wrote: I think you mean http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/b/bc/20100513062230!Wiki.png. Oh, right. I have still cached the nohat version on http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] On problems in commons

2010-05-09 Thread Platonides
Mikemoral wrote: But Muhammad's image is not illegal in the US, so why remove them? That has no point. Why do we have to remove content perfectly legal under US law? Please educate me why. Who said that the images Jimmy deleted (and which started all this debate) were illegal in the US? If

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

2010-05-01 Thread Platonides
Chad wrote: I'm curious to know, how does one start a new project in Wikimedia anymore? -Chad http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects Creating a new language for an existing project is easier: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages Before getting its

Re: [Foundation-l] Possible project

2010-04-29 Thread Platonides
cool-RR wrote: Hello Samuel, I'm glad I got the right list. According to your definition, the project fits Wikimedia's goal. I will now introduce it. The project is called Librelist. The official website introduces it quite well, so I'll just quote it: Librelist is a free as in

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Danese Cooper joins Wikimedia as CTO

2010-01-28 Thread Platonides
Crossposting to wikitech. Welcome Danese! Sue Gardner wrote: Hi folks, I'm delighted to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief Technical Officer is Danese Cooper, an experienced technology manager and open-source evangelist. Danese will start with Wikimedia on February 4, 2010.

Re: [Foundation-l] mo.wikipedia is not yet renamed to mo-cyrill as it was promised !!

2009-07-11 Thread Platonides
Cetateanu Moldovanu wrote: (and you still link it from the first page of wikipedia..how ignorant can you be..). Be polite. I would otherwise sympathise with your situation, but DON'T-BE-RUDE. Moreover, the first page of wikipedia is managed by wikipedians, not by the developers...

Re: [Foundation-l] Permanent deletion (tangent to the national portrait gallery thing)

2009-07-11 Thread Platonides
private musings wrote: Hi all, As a tangent to the national portrait gallery thing, I though I'd raise something which I've chatted about previously (possibly here, but certainly with various community members) which seems unresolved. My understanding of the status quo is that when a

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-22 Thread Platonides
Anthony wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:54 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Whether Google is good or evil is off-topic, and irrelevant to boot. Whether or not they have a right to exclude bots isn't. Also worth noting, Project Gutenberg has digitised less than 30,000 books

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-22 Thread Platonides
Anthony wrote: (although I still haven't seen the WMF step up to the plate and make it easy for people to make a full history fork, or even to download all the images) You'll find full history dumps of almost all wikis at http://download.wikimedia.org/ Although not trivial, downloading all

Re: [Foundation-l] Info/Law blog: Using Wikisource as an Alternative Open Access Repository for Legal Scholarship

2009-06-20 Thread Platonides
Brian wrote: Unfortunately the only way I've found to download the full text of a public domain book from Google is to flip through the book a page at a time, copying the text to your clipboard. There are roughly 2-3 million public domain books in Google Books. That's easy to fix :)

Re: [Foundation-l] Why don't we re-encode proprietary formats as Ogg?

2009-06-09 Thread Platonides
Michael Dale wrote: hmm.. it will be a one-two click install directly from the upload page. (if the user is using Firefox). Then it works exactly the same as the existing upload interface only it transcodes the video as it uploads Yea it would be good to support both; and yes we should

Re: [Foundation-l] Why don't we re-encode proprietary formats as Ogg?

2009-06-07 Thread Platonides
David Gerard wrote: It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis. It would greatly add to how much stuff we get, as it would save the user the trouble of re-encoding, or

Re: [Foundation-l] Long-term archiving of Wikimedia content

2009-05-06 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Actually, there are more assumptions: you have to assume that humanity *ever* recovers, and within a period of time when people will still understand written English. You'd have to calibrate the magnitude of a catastrophe *very* carefully to get a situation where

Re: [Foundation-l] site notice not accessible to users with disabilities

2009-04-27 Thread Platonides
jidanni wrote: Imagine there was a message so important that you show it at the top of the page, on every page on the whole site, and in every language; no matter if you are logged in or not, and no matter how many times you have seen it before. Then imagine all you ever hear about these

Re: [Foundation-l] OT: Re: PGP-keysign at the tech/chapter-meeting

2009-04-07 Thread Platonides
I generally agree with your points, but I'll reply your points even if it's just slightly more secure. Aryeh Gregor wrote: Okay, great. So if someone shows up with an index finger like yours, there are two possibilities: 1) Someone forged this e-mail from you that I was relying on, and the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Toolserver-l] PGP-keysign at the tech/chapter-meeting

2009-03-31 Thread Platonides
There's another way to do a key-signing, faster than 1-to-1. You have everyone have a list and each one presents itself, giving their fingerprint. I guess you'll have a brief introduction at the beginning where everyone presents himself? If you were to say I'm Daniel (aka as DaB), the evil

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees: December 2008

2009-03-11 Thread Platonides
Lars Aronsson wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: Report to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees [...] From December 9-15, Jimmy Wales and Sue Gardner visited India. It is great to read this report. But the archived version has been cut (by a software bug) at the line starting with From,

Re: [Foundation-l] dumps

2009-02-26 Thread Platonides
Brian wrote: Yep a typo, here is the right link: http://grey.colorado.edu/enwiki-20080103-pages-meta-history.xml.7z People downloading it would like to verify they downloaded it correctly. md5(enwiki-20080103-pages-meta-history.xml.7z) is 20a201afc05a4e5f2f6c3b9b7afa225c

Re: [Foundation-l] A funny coincidence

2009-02-19 Thread Platonides
Michael Snow escribió: I suppose I should bring it with me whether I spend it or not. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Wikimania, and seeing any of you that are able to make it. --Michael Snow You should bring it and not spend it. I foresee you will be asked about them there :-)

Re: [Foundation-l] mirroring a portion of the wikipedia

2009-02-19 Thread Platonides
Robert Rohde wrote: True, though under the current system a middle man in position of a user authentication token could do exactly the same things to Wikimedia as someone with the plaintext password. Which is a short way of saying our system has never been built with much security in mind.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia IdeaTorrent?

2009-01-28 Thread Platonides
Erik Moeller wrote: If you haven't seen it yet, Ubuntu is running an interesting brainstorming software called IdeaTorrent to think collectively about common problems and solutions: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ The software: http://www.ideatorrent.org/ I wonder - would people

Re: [Foundation-l] CIA/NSA development of mediawiki

2009-01-25 Thread Platonides
Brian wrote: That means I can clarify why my much hated factual correction was appropriate. Here was the original statement: If the CIA were to hand you a improved-mediawiki binary, sure Let's briefly suppose that there are binaries for mediawiki (which is false - but suppose they only

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-24 Thread Platonides
Nikola Smolenski wrote: Given that we know that NSA conducts massive illegal spying operations, there is possibility that selinux is altered in a fashion that will make it easier for NSA to spy on selinux' users. I don't know what are CIA's contributions to MediaWiki, but unless it is

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 58, Issue 130

2009-01-24 Thread Platonides
feumar...@infomed.sld.cu escribió: HI, I AM NEW IN ALL THIS THING, PLEASE I NEED ALL OF YOU HELP ME.I AM CUBAN, AND MY ENGLISH, IS NOT VERY GOOD,SO PLEASE SEND ME THE MESSAGES IN SPANISH, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU. En tal caso probablemente esta lista de correo no sea adecuada para ti.

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-23 Thread Platonides
Andrew Gray wrote: 2009/1/22 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: A vast number of pseudonyms below have no meaning except for their context in Wikipedia. Apropos of which, a thought. We have spilled a good bit of ink over whether or not it is appropriate for the reuser to attribute

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-22 Thread Platonides
Sam Johnston wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: Das Wikipedia Lexikon in einem Band[1] is another stunning example of attribution gone mad A few pages of names in a 1000 page book doesn't seem that mad to me. I think it makes an excellent

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-22 Thread Platonides
Erik Moeller wrote: Because I don't think it's good to discuss attribution as an abstract principle, just as an example, the author attribution for the article [[France]] is below, excluding IP addresses. According to the view that attribution needs to be given to each pseudonym, this entire

Re: [Foundation-l] RfC: License update proposal

2009-01-21 Thread Platonides
Erik Moeller wrote: 2009/1/21 Thomas Dalton: A lot of the problems you are having there are because you are trying to group things into print and online. The correct dichotomy is online and offline. Of course you are going to have problems classifying DVDs if your classifaction systems

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread Platonides
teun spaans wrote: Many times it works well. But the procedures also irregularly goes amiss. I also received deletion messages of a pic i had uploaded with a correct license. Some wikimedian had accidently removed the license, making a bot come along and warn me. By pure coincidence i

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread Platonides
Pharos wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2008 08:23:07 Gerard Meijssen wrote: When people from other projects tell me that this is one of the reasons why they do not bother with Commons, I have to disbelieve them? Try to