Language committee got the first observers today: Samuel Klein and Mark
Williamson.
If you want to be LangCom observer, please send email to any of LangCom
members and after 7 day discussion you will get the answer. As I said
before, it is likely that any highly involved Wikimedian would pass
Risker, 02/06/2011 00:53:
I think the more important part of this announcement is the resolution on
images of identifiable people [...]
I agree. It's also the first time (if memory serves me well and if I
understand it correctly) that the board asks for a specific content
policy of a
Hi,
I'm taking part in an images discussion workshop with a number of
academics tomorrow and could do with a statement about the WMF's long
term commitment to supporting Wikimedia Commons (and other projects)
in terms of the public availability of media. Is there an official
published policy I
Hoi,
It is the explicit goal of the Wikimedia Foundation to make information
available for as long as it exist. In addition to this, there are several
copies at the Internet Archive.
If there is no statement that satisfies your need, it will not be hard for
the WMF board to come up with one.
Hello Fae,
There should be no explicit statement because the WMF holds it
self-evident to preserve. The bigger problem might be the project
scope. I don't know what kind of images your academic partners wishes
to upload.
Kind regards
Ziko
2011/6/2 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
On 2 June 2011 13:24, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote:
There should be no explicit statement because the WMF holds it
self-evident to preserve. The bigger problem might be the project
scope. I don't know what kind of images your academic partners wishes
to upload.
There's also
Fae, 02/06/2011 13:29:
I'm taking part in an images discussion workshop with a number of
academics tomorrow and could do with a statement about the WMF's long
term commitment to supporting Wikimedia Commons (and other projects)
in terms of the public availability of media. Is there an official
Briefly responding to a couple of points raised so far:
Yes, there is a need for a policy as otherwise the WMF would have no
long term operational archive plan. Self evident is insufficient in
order to budget and plan in a credible way. If as the planned outcome
of a research project I had a
Briefly responding to a couple of points raised so far:
Yes, there is a need for a policy as otherwise the WMF would have no
long term operational archive plan. Self evident is insufficient in
order to budget and plan in a credible way. If as the planned outcome
of a research project I had a
On 2 June 2011 15:19, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
I think what needs to happen is to explore ways to cooperate using each
institutions relative assets. That might include, for example, endowing
Commons with assets sufficient to support long term archival services as
well as a
On 06/02/2011 02:27 PM, David Gerard wrote:
On 2 June 2011 13:24, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote:
There should be no explicit statement because the WMF holds it
self-evident to preserve. The bigger problem might be the project
scope. I don't know what kind of images your academic
There are two caveats: nobody can tell the future of human cultural
history or any individual legal organization, and while the repository and
wikis as a whole, and virtually all legally hostable media of genuine value,
are preserved indefinitely, obviously no guarantee can be given concerning
OH, I see: Don't put your eggs all in one basket.
Fred
There are two caveats: nobody can tell the future of human cultural
history or any individual legal organization, and while the repository
and
wikis as a whole, and virtually all legally hostable media of genuine
value,
are preserved
OH, I see: Don't put your eggs all in one basket.
Fred
Actually, that is the benefit of giving Commons access to archives of
images. Access by Commons under its license conventions gives access to
everyone and results in all interesting images going viral.
There are images of little or no
Hoi,
This is a sad day.
Thanks,
Gerard
On 2 June 2011 18:23, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
It is with considerable regret that I inform you of my planned departure
from the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of July. I’ve really enjoyed my
time here, and I’m proud of what
On 2 June 2011 14:21, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Briefly responding to a couple of points raised so far:
Yes, there is a need for a policy as otherwise the WMF would have no
long term operational archive plan.
Why would we have an archive plan? Archives are for things that aren't
expected to
Danese, sorry to see you go. Though not always visible, you have done a lot
:)
Thank you for your efforts!
Teun Spaans
Everybody knew it was impossible, until someone turned up who didnt know
that.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
This is a
Sure Tom, here's a SciFi user story:
In 2016 San Francisco has a major earthquake and the servers and
operational facilities for the WMF are damaged beyond repair. The
emergency hot switchover to Hong Kong is delayed due to an ongoing DoS
attack from Eastern European countries. The switchover
On 2 June 2011 18:48, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure Tom, here's a SciFi user story:
In 2016 San Francisco has a major earthquake and the servers and
operational facilities for the WMF are damaged beyond repair. The
emergency hot switchover to Hong Kong is delayed due to an ongoing DoS
On 2 June 2011 18:48, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2016 San Francisco has a major earthquake and the servers and
operational facilities for the WMF are damaged beyond repair. The
emergency hot switchover to Hong Kong is delayed due to an ongoing DoS
attack from Eastern European countries.
On 2 June 2011 14:21, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Briefly responding to a couple of points raised so far:
Yes, there is a need for a policy as otherwise the WMF would have no
long term operational archive plan.
Why would we have an archive plan? Archives are for things that aren't
expected
Because Commons is to be used by the world, not just sister projects.
If the New York Times Online links a picture in from Commons (and credits it
properly) are we going to make their later-historical story useless by deleting
the picture ?
-Original Message-
From: Fred
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Briefly responding to a couple of points raised so far:
Yes, there is a need for a policy as otherwise the WMF would have no
long term operational archive plan. Self evident is insufficient in
order to budget and plan in a credible
A lot of questions here.
IF an image is hosted and not used for in 100 years, it would be up to the
people in 100 years to decide. Any guarantee we try to make for such periods
is absolutely useless. Every rule we make can be re-discussed and changed in
such a period.
If an organization such as
Thanks Phoebe, for my presentation I'll highlight long term
preservation in perpetuity as the key point of interest and reflect
some of the other issues raised on this thread about the suitability
for certain types of donation.
I'm not expecting a WMF policy overnight, just thought that there
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 June 2011 18:48, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2016 San Francisco has a major earthquake and the servers and
operational facilities for the WMF are damaged beyond repair. The
emergency hot switchover to Hong Kong is
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
Risker, 02/06/2011 00:53:
I think the more important part of this announcement is the resolution on
images of identifiable people [...]
I agree. It's also the first time (if memory serves me well and if I
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, George Herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 June 2011 18:48, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2016 San Francisco has a major earthquake and the servers and
operational facilities for
On 2 June 2011 03:25, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Samuel Klein wrote:
I'd like to see this for more than just the Foundation - any event
where wikimedians have a presence - but this is a great place to
start.
I started a (very bad) page at Meta-Wiki for future events:
Hello,
I'm wondering, is there a policy for OTRS agents saying that they can't make
info send to OTRS public?
--
Kind regards,
Huib Laurens
WickedWay.nl
Webhosting the wicked way.
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I'm wondering, is there a policy for OTRS agents saying that they can't
make
info send to OTRS public?
Yes, information sent to OTRS should be treated as non-public information
that should not be shared under pretty much
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:25 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
I started a (very bad) page at Meta-Wiki for future events:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_in_meatspace.
What's the difference between that page and
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events? We should clarify what the
Okay,
Than we have a problem here,
User Silverspoon publiced a e-mail I send to OTRS in a channel.
This e-mail (http://demo.wickedway.nl/temp/SS%20temp.jpg) is a e-mail I
sended to OTRS to release content. This e-mail was paste on pastebin to
discuss in a public IRC channel (
And you complain about the violation of your privacy posting the private
mail in a public list?
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A screenshot SilverSpoon placed online about this:
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/3260/10minutes.png
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private info in a public list.
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I'm complaining here because the OTRS Admin doesn't give a fuck. So there is
a option to leave it and let it go, or come to here,.
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he is not the only adm in the world Huib. If you are so troubled about that,
send a mail to OTRS adms (in plural) in private.
Make the private data public here does not help your case.
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Hi there,
I believe all data sent to OTRS is covered by the Wikimedia Foundation
privacy policy. It should be treated as sensitive, however, by posting to
this publicly read and archived mailing list, it seems that the data
revealed was not sensitive. I agree that this is unacceptable behavior
New problem: Silverspoon in not an OTRS member. So he don't have access to
OTRS mails.
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On 2 June 2011 16:01, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay,
Than we have a problem here,
User Silverspoon publiced a e-mail I send to OTRS in a channel.
This e-mail (http://demo.wickedway.nl/temp/SS%20temp.jpg) is a e-mail I
sended to OTRS to release content. This e-mail was paste
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
New problem: Silverspoon in not an OTRS member. So he don't have access to
OTRS mails.
_
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In the original e-mail, Huib notes the information was provided to
Silverspoon by another user. Also, I think it's
Hello,
Its a fact that this is the second time this happens, when you take it up to
the admins nothing will happen. Because I think this is not something that
should go away I take my loss and make this a public descussion. Otherwhise
nothing will happen again.
Its also a fact freakyfries a user
The privacy policy does not preclude releasing private emails, and even
writes in specific exceptions. When raised on en.wiki in relation to
releasing CheckUser information (in that case linking an IP to an account) I
thought the response there said it best; that not linking IP's to accounts
was
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Thomas Morton
morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
The privacy policy does not preclude releasing private emails, and even
writes in specific exceptions. When raised on en.wiki in relation to
releasing CheckUser information (in that case linking an IP to an
Try these guys:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission
On 2 June 2011 20:40, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I'm wondering, is there a policy for OTRS agents saying that they can't make
info send to OTRS public?
--
Kind regards,
Huib Laurens
WickedWay.nl
Thomas,
Who is the right person because it is a fact that a problem should be told
to the OTRS admins, after I did that he told me that it was my own problem.
So if there is somebody I should bring it up to now I would like to know.
This doesn't change the fact that I believe that SilverSpoon
James Forrester wrote:
On 2 June 2011 03:25, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Samuel Klein wrote:
I'd like to see this for more than just the Foundation - any event
where wikimedians have a presence - but this is a great place to
start.
I started a (very bad) page at Meta-Wiki for
On 02/06/11 19:52, George Herbert wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:55 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 June 2011 18:48, Faefae...@gmail.com wrote:
In 2016 San Francisco has a major earthquake and the servers and
operational facilities for the WMF are damaged beyond repair. The
MZMcBride wrote:
Samuel Klein wrote:
I'd like to see this for more than just the Foundation - any event
where wikimedians have a presence - but this is a great place to
start.
I started a (very bad) page at Meta-Wiki for future events:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_in_meatspace.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 16:11, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Tape is -- still -- your friend here. Flip the write-protect after
writing, have two sets of off-site tapes, one copy of each in each of
two secure and widely separated off-site locations run by two different
On 03/06/11 00:44, Mark Wagner wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 16:11, Neil Harrisn...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Tape is -- still -- your friend here. Flip the write-protect after
writing, have two sets of off-site tapes, one copy of each in each of
two secure and widely separated off-site
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