[Foundation-l] Controversial Content vs Only-Image-Filter

2011-10-16 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
In the last weeks i hold myself back and watched over the comments at multiple places to see what is the current development. At first i have to point out that I'm very disappointed by the current progress. Sue called for a more general discussion. Ting stated again, like in Nürnberg, that it

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread ???
On 11/10/2011 15:33, Kim Bruning wrote: flame on Therefore you cannot claim that I am stating nonsense. The inverse is true: you do not possess the information to support your position, as you now admit. In future, before you set out to make claims of bad faith in others, it would be wise

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread ???
On 11/10/2011 00:47, MZMcBride wrote: Risker wrote: Given the number of people who insist that any categorization system seems to be vulnerable, I'd like to hear the reasons why the current system, which is obviously necessary in order for people to find types of images, does not have

[Foundation-l] University project on Wikipedia

2011-10-16 Thread Maria Fanucchi
[Cross-posting this to Translators-l, WikiEN-l and Foundation-l, because there is a considerable amount of overlap, as you'll see. Volunteers from several Wikipedias may be needed, and the Foundation could eventually be involved if the project becomes an annual one. I apologize in advance to those

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 16.10.2011 12:53, schrieb ???: On 11/10/2011 15:33, Kim Bruning wrote: flame on Therefore you cannot claim that I am stating nonsense. The inverse is true: you do not possess the information to support your position, as you now admit. In future, before you set out to make claims

Re: [Foundation-l] University project on Wikipedia

2011-10-16 Thread Etienne Beaule
Ça va être bien! It will be good! Je vais faire du bénévolat pour ceci. I will volunteer. Étienne (Ebe123) On 11-10-16 8:21 AM, Maria Fanucchi marialado...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posting this to Translators-l, WikiEN-l and Foundation-l, because there is a considerable amount of overlap,

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread ???
On 16/10/2011 12:37, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: Am 16.10.2011 12:53, schrieb ???: On 11/10/2011 15:33, Kim Bruning wrote: flame on Therefore you cannot claim that I am stating nonsense. The inverse is true: you do not possess the information to support your position, as you now admit.

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 October 2011 14:40, ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: Don't be an arsehole you get the same sort of stuff if you search for Presumably this is the sort of quality of discourse Sue was complaining about from filter advocates: provocateurs lacking in empathy. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread David Levy
I wrote: In this context, you view images as entities independent from the people and things depicted therein (and believe that our use of illustrations not included in other publications constitutes undue weight). Andreas Kolbe replied: I view images as *content*, subject to the same

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread ???
On 16/10/2011 14:50, David Gerard wrote: On 16 October 2011 14:40, ???wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: Don't be an arsehole you get the same sort of stuff if you search for Presumably this is the sort of quality of discourse Sue was complaining about from filter advocates: provocateurs

Re: [Foundation-l] University project on Wikipedia

2011-10-16 Thread KillerChihuahua
I think the good people over at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Classroom coordination]] might be able to help you set this up and render assistance. Sounds like a wonderful project, good luck! -kc- - Original Message - From: Maria Fanucchi marialado...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Translators

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 16.10.2011 16:17, schrieb ???: On 16/10/2011 14:50, David Gerard wrote: On 16 October 2011 14:40, ???wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: Don't be an arsehole you get the same sort of stuff if you search for Presumably this is the sort of quality of discourse Sue was complaining about

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread ???
On 16/10/2011 19:36, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: Am 16.10.2011 16:17, schrieb ???: On 16/10/2011 14:50, David Gerard wrote: On 16 October 2011 14:40, ???wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.ukwrote: Don't be an arsehole you get the same sort of stuff if you search for Presumably this is the sort of

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
If the entire premise of an email comes down to I'm taunting you, that's an indication it probably shouldn't be sent. Dan Rosenthal On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: On 16/10/2011 19:36, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: Am 16.10.2011 16:17, schrieb ???: On

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Theo10011
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:57 AM, ??? wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: On 16/10/2011 19:36, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: Am 16.10.2011 16:17, schrieb ???: On 16/10/2011 14:50, David Gerard wrote: On 16 October 2011 14:40, ???wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.ukwrote: Don't be an arsehole you

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Personality conflicts aside, we're noting that non-sexual search terms in Commons can prominently return sexual images of varying explicitness, from mild nudity to hardcore, and that this is different from entering a sexual search term and finding that Google fails to filter some results. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Andreas Kolbe wrote: Personality conflicts aside, we're noting that non-sexual search terms in Commons can prominently return sexual images of varying explicitness, from mild nudity to hardcore, and that this is different from entering a sexual search term and finding that Google fails to filter

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Commons featured prominently in the Harris study, as well as the board resolution on controversial content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Wikimedia_Study_of_Controversial_Content:_Part_Two http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Controversial_content Andreas

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-16 Thread Andreas Kolbe
For reference, the resolution said:  * We ask the Executive Director, in consultation with the community, to develop and implement a personal image hiding feature that will enable readers to easily hide images hosted ***on the projects*** that they do not wish to view, either when