Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Richard Stallman
> A GNOME developer in the list would have seen this and could have > responded, raises the issue in the appropriate GNOME list, or whatever > is TRT. It isn't feasible for me, and I don't know who to ask. No, that's not how the world works! That's how gnu-prog-discuss works. We

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 17:32 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: [...] > The standards made by POSIX, ISO and freedesktop.org are suggestions. > They carry some weight because users typically appreciate > compatibility with standards. But that's not the only thing users > appreciate, so a standard is no

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 17:32 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > mention that this particular behaviour is specified: > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs > > They can recommend, but they cannot "specify" anything for us. In the > GNU Project we pay attention to standards, and usu

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Richard Stallman
mention that this particular behaviour is specified: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs They can recommend, but they cannot "specify" anything for us. In the GNU Project we pay attention to standards, and usually we follow them, but not automatically or necessarily. For i

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Richard Stallman
>> (I think that person was right: learning one English word `Desktop' is >> not much of a burden, and on the other hand, this feature can cause a >> real nuisance for users that use multiple locales.) Not to mention that for some people that could very well mean “just one new

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Richard Stallman
I really don't like that "eh, just one English word to learn, deal with it" condescending tone. That tone was not in my message -- it comes from you, not me. It is normal for people to disagree on a technical question, so you must not make personal attacks on people for stating technical

Re: Could a few influential GNOME developers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Richard Stallman
So, I assume that although it was a mail to discuss things about accessibility, on GNU mailing list, for some reason, gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org was more suitable that gnu-accessibility. What was that reason? I don't remember that particular message, but here are some possibilities t

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: > On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 18:25 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: >> Hi! >> >> > A GNOME developer in the list would have seen this and could have >> > responded, raises the issue in the appropriate GNOME list, or whatever >> > is TRT.  It isn't

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 19:32 +0100, Michael Hasselmann wrote: > On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 18:25 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > A GNOME developer in the list would have seen this and could have > > > responded, raises the issue in the appropriate GNOME list, or whatever > > > is TRT. I

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 18:25 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > > > A GNOME developer in the list would have seen this and could have > > responded, raises the issue in the appropriate GNOME list, or whatever > > is TRT. It isn't feasible for me, and I don't know who to ask. > > No, that's not

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > A GNOME developer in the list would have seen this and could have > responded, raises the issue in the appropriate GNOME list, or whatever > is TRT. It isn't feasible for me, and I don't know who to ask. No, that's not how the world works! The person asking should have brought it up on a

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 21:36 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > Can't these be brought up on proper GNOME lists then? Especially > seeing as there is no public archive for your GNU list. > > We use this list for private discussions about GNU in general. > Sometimes the issues relate to GNOME, but

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Maciej Marcin Piechotka
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 12:30 +0100, Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 18/01/2012 03:36, Richard Stallman a écrit : > > (I think that person was right: learning one English word `Desktop' is > > not much of a burden, and on the other hand, this feature can cause a > > real nuisance for users that use multiple

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
2012/1/18 Julien Puydt : > Le 18/01/2012 03:36, Richard Stallman a écrit : >> (I think that person was right: learning one English word `Desktop' is >> not much of a burden, and on the other hand, this feature can cause a >> real nuisance for users that use multiple locales.) > If I choose my sessi

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 18/01/2012 03:36, Richard Stallman a écrit : (I think that person was right: learning one English word `Desktop' is not much of a burden, and on the other hand, this feature can cause a real nuisance for users that use multiple locales.) If I choose my session in ..., I expect each and every