Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
to fail to empower users to modify their computing environment. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
outside of business use will soon be irrelevant. In which case Gnome needs to seamlessly run Android apps or it will be irrelevant. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:33:26 + Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: hi; On 28 November 2012 11:02, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: What I took from that is that the freedom to modify your computing environment is only meaningful in the first degree to programmers

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
it and shipping the forks in major distros. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
uniform default. It's just that the UI for twiddling them is broken. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
given. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-20 Thread Alan Cox
Actually I think Richard made a really helpful suggestion - a screen built in to the desktop that explains the goals. Can the desktop by default at least have such a document on it for people to read? One place to put it is part of an introductory first run tutorial which also explains things

Re: Looking for community managers or enthusiasts!

2012-11-15 Thread Alan Cox
, but rather a bit more transparency in how we make our You can do all the telling you like. It's the listening and explaining which matters. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Cox
writing mundane things. ;) I would be surprised if the Gnome Foundation had legal authority and ownership rights to authorise any redesign of such material as it isn't the rightsholder in question. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Cox
their blogs included on it and placed them on it by choice. It's under CC-NC licensing (*). So they've agreed to NC use but the foundation exploiting it commercially (or indeed any site reformatting it and making money from doing so) would appear to be a breach of copyright. Alan (*) which is btw

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:22:14 -0500 Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 13:45, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: People asked to have their blogs included on it and placed them on it by choice. It's under CC-NC licensing (*). So they've agreed to NC

Re: proposal to change GNOME's trademark guidelines

2011-07-29 Thread Alan Cox
in the projects that adopted policies with this language in it. (That said, I'd be happy to get other lawyers involved if it's not overkill.) That answers my question, and from the rest of the reply it seems my other worries are addressed, thought about and dealt with. Alan

Re: proposal to change GNOME's trademark guidelines

2011-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
sort this out. Trademark requirements are quite specific and defining some examples would provide clarity and assurance surely ? It's really essential such changes go through lawyers. Sad the world works that way but in the case of trademark that's how it happens to be. Alan

Re: Wiki text licensing

2011-03-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:25:17 +0100 Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org a écrit: (I changed the Subject because I recommend that we not describe potentially useful works of software documentation works as content. That term denigrates the works. See

Re: GTK+/MeeGo Handset integration work, call for bids

2010-10-14 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:35:13 -0700 C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP c...@colliertech.org wrote: I'm raising a red flag: W: Failed to fetch http://download.meego.com/live/devel:/tools:/sdk:/host/${distribution}/Sources.gz 404 Not Found Seems to work for me. ${distribution} in the URL looks

Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

2010-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
the proprietary software world with free software for all, not for mostly male, thick skinned folks because everyone else feels unwelcome and threatened - whether for cultural or other reasons. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

2010-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
Woodhouse I think says it all Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

2010-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
That's completely irrelevant. Do we need to write a list of no bag stealing, no puppy strangling etc.? Sexual assaults are supposed to be dealt with using law enforcement, not speaker guidelines. Assault is - but where for example would you draw the line given a speaker appearing in a

Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Cox
for latency, they have avoided inheriting dumb latency heavy models and they don't have the compatibility legacy that GNOME has to worry about in solving them. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman

Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Cox
sillies :-) Lets not forget some of the low-level sillies found in the kernel and base-syste, recently: software resume processes that synchronously read huge chunks of the swap partition to checksum the disk, single big kernel locks held for all module insertions, Modules is not showing up

Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap

2010-02-28 Thread Alan Cox
A solution that IMHO has much better chances of success is to create a free alternative to facebook. However, who is going to do it and more importantly who is going to pay for this effort? :( You would have the same problem as taking on ebay or replacing the internet. The economic value

Re: Thanks, and a Brief Survey

2010-01-15 Thread Alan Cox
, mislabeled or wastes all their meeting time with stupid arguments. A bit cumbersome but a good deal more all embracing. Given GNOME has always tended to keep core libraries LGPL that's perhaps also more descriptive too. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-11-25 Thread Alan Cox
to disagree. - Criticize ideas, not people presenting them. And perhaps also - Remmeber that different cultures have different attitudes, styles and touchy subjects. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http

Re: Stormy's update: Week of July 13th

2009-07-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:20:22 +0200 Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 21:43 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: Another problem with trying to find an issue here is that, depending on the point of view, Amazon acted within their own Terms (point iii under

Re: Stormy's update: Week of July 13th

2009-07-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:41:36 -0400 Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: Created some Amazon affiliate accounts in US, UK, Canada and Germany so tha= t Jaap can set up stores and a Firefox widget that will enable people to direct Amazon referral fees for their purchase to

Re: Call for hackfest ideas

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Cox
the problems known... Unfortunately they are well known but nobody seems to care. I'll forward your message to the vendor security list and we'll see what happens. Probably the bug just needs to be made *very* public to incentivise people to fix it 8) Alan

Re: [guadec-list] Re-considering expectnation web service

2008-01-02 Thread Alan Cox
if Expectnation goes out of business before guadec 2008 ? What is the backup plan ? I'm not saying Expectnation isn't the right choice but that you have to do the rest of the work that goes with a proprietary choice. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation

Re: Money spending, questions for the candidates

2007-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:11:15 +0100 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Cox wrote: I just want to put this in perspective: the foundation has $200,000 in the bank, with guaranteed income of $100,000 a year approx. One employee costs at least $70,000 per year, and depending on the role

Re: GNOME dependent on Mono

2007-11-30 Thread Alan Cox
, but the ongoing problem is caused by the FSF. And the sooner the FSF realise that and issue a GPL v3.1 removing that exemption the better. The FSF not Gnome wrote Novell the get out clause. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Alan Cox
actions or activities that is the slighest bit negative or in disagreement with yourself you take as a personal insult and follow up in flowery language attempting to supress the dissent by acting hurt. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Alan Cox
I pointed out behaviour that I thought was inappropriate and unproductive. So did I ... I suggest you take a gander at the Code of Conduct So do I ... ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-02 Thread Alan Cox
ultimatums has me baffled given all the Luis said about getting the job done whatever it took. Can you translate that particular bit of newspeak Jeff, as I can't work out how to make sense of your comments with respect to Luis offer. Alan ___ foundation-list

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-01 Thread Alan Cox
an excellent invention of nature for all living species. That includes the free software warriors. Competing is not the same as giving your opponent an automatic weapon and asking them to take potshots at you, which is what the current activity has become. Alan

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-10-30 Thread Alan Cox
... Accountability and encourages members to run for election. I hope it does. If they believe the board isn't doing the job as well as they could... Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Suggestion for coming elections

2007-10-16 Thread Alan Cox
, and they invite specific people to fill up the board maybe? What usually happens is someone really unwanted and undesired stands as part of the seven or less at which point lots of people sudden become willing to stand 8) Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list

Re: Regarding OOXML and Microsoft patents

2007-07-31 Thread Alan Cox
Michael throughout this discussion belong anywhere. Miguel and Michael have each done more for free software than most of us can even hope to aspire to That doesn't mean what they are doing now is good for free software. Just ask Mr Raymond ;) ___

Re: Regarding OOXML and Microsoft patents

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Cox
* The validity of the statement that we can be stopped from implementing OOXML: Has a lawyer weighted into whether the patent grants in the Microsoft OSP are not sufficient? All I have seen so far are opinions from advocates, with no legal background.

Re: Sponsorship letter

2007-06-29 Thread Alan Cox
or some member] - they will sometimes check by phone and the Web URLs also help. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Alan Cox
to visitors (Canada) can be very pricy in summer but very very cheap in winter [guess why]. This is a problem with OLS. Mexico has some claim to be the original home of Gnome... Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http

Best of luck to all candidates in the election

2006-12-06 Thread Alan Horkan
and thanks to all for taking part and thanks to the election team for running things. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ http://alanhorkan.livejournal.com/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http

Re: Code of conduct (bis)

2006-12-02 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Dave Neary wrote: Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:24:47 +0100 From: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Foundation-List foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Code of conduct (bis) Hi, Alan Horkan wrote: Code of conduct: Dont

Re: Code of conduct (bis)

2006-12-02 Thread Alan Horkan
. There are various ways we can tackle the problem and I think even a gesture from the board would be good too. (And congratulations Quim on your new affiliation and gainful employment.) -- Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http

Re: Endorsement for Joachim Norieko

2006-11-28 Thread Alan
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:01:08 +1100 Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Shaun McCance I also want to throw in a strong endorsement for Joachim. I'm a little concerned -- based on Joachim's answers and commments on this list -- that there would be some difficult philosophical

Re: Extending voting period due to renewals

2006-11-26 Thread Alan Horkan
it seems a little counter productive to put difficulties in the way of those who wish to remain members. There are also people like say Alan Cox and Telsa Gwynne for example who have worked so hard for Gnome in that past (and most likely continue to do so in ways unseen to me) I do not think

Re: Extending voting period due to renewals

2006-11-26 Thread Alan
hadn't been involved for two years materially shouldn't be voting and risk turning it into an old-farts club. to see them removed from the Foundation. (In searching for my own name I was suprised to notice the abscence of Alan Cox.) By choice. I use some Gnome apps and I'm greatful for all

Re: Extending voting period due to renewals

2006-11-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Alan wrote: Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:31:03 + From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: foundation-list foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Extending voting period due to renewals Perhaps someone who has been involved since

Re: Research groups and the GNOME project

2006-11-14 Thread Alan Horkan
: site:mail.gnome.org listname otherkeywords but you probably already know that ... -- Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Research groups and the GNOME project

2006-11-13 Thread Alan Horkan
grab the compressed archives for each month but I expect a more elegant way must exist. A sysadmin contact asking him/her to help us in the process could be better way to do it. Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Open Clip Art http

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-10-22 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Sad, 2006-10-21 am 18:01 +0200, ysgrifennodd Quim Gil: compatible with several operative systems, including GNU/Linux (commonly You've mis-spelled correctly as commonly and ignored the view of the owners of the Linux kernel and the Linux mark. Unfortunate. Can I urge translators to translate

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-05 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Sad, 2006-08-05 am 19:37 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov: combination. We include Linux in the name because it is an essential component of the system and the Linux developers deserve credit for their work. The GNU Project's policy was always to point out that Linux is a seperate

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
like to note to the board that Linux is the name of the operating system kernel and is a trademark. If you wish to use the term GNU/Linux then you should seek the permission of the Linux trademark holder. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
I'd make the argument many such error messages should actually say Portraint printing is not available on this/your system because the user doesn't care about Linux either and may not know about that either. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Alan Horkan
which could potentially be cross referenced from various places in the documentation. -- Alan H. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Temporaray enlargement of the GNOME Board with 2 persons

2006-06-05 Thread Alan Horkan
to think about it a little further if this is the best way to organise the board in the long run. -- Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Code Of Conduct

2006-06-01 Thread Alan Horkan
, and that the goal of our campaign is freedom for us and for everyone. If greater clarity and emphasis on freedom is the goal why not say _Freedom Software_ and avoid the abiguity which in part lead other to come up with different terminology? -- Alan ___ foundation

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Alan Cox
with acting for, speaking for, representing or being part of Gnome, or when using its facilities. It isn't too much to ask for people to keep other stuff elsewhere, or to engage in other incompatible activities from a non-gnome email address or on a different irc network. Alan

Re: Code Of Conduct

2006-05-31 Thread Alan Horkan
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Kalle Vahlman wrote: That said, I'm not against the CoC. I'm just not convinced it'll have any positive effect, that's all. Before I say something really immature could people try using an acronym less giggle-worthy, or not use an acronym at all. -- Alan

Re: LSB summit in Boston

2006-05-19 Thread Alan Cox
and business and non-viral licenses. It provides no mechanism to standardise interfaces built with or upon GPL libraries for example. Much could be done productively I am sure. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org

Re: Boilerplate copyright agreement for commercial exploitation

2006-05-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Sul, 2006-05-14 at 19:52 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Since lawyers talk .doc, and use revision control to track changes to the documents, that's what we ge too. Disappointing. I hope the foundation will reconsider that decision and post its documents in open formats as well. Alan

Re: Boilerplate copyright agreement for commercial exploitation

2006-05-15 Thread Alan Cox
as rendered by MS Word or by Abiword or by OpenOffice ? Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Boilerplate copyright agreement for commercial exploitation

2006-05-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2006-05-15 at 10:19 -0400, Dominic Lachowicz wrote: Stick to your open formats argument; it serves you better. ODT makes no guarantees that the documents will look the same across renderers or platforms. If the apps used exactly the same layout algorithms with the same fonts, ligature

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Alan Cox
was the Novell 'yes it works with Netware' program). Having a logo for a program which is a gnome program and for gnome developer ought to be doable given the right definition, and foundation member is definitely one that can be done today as the foundation has a defined membership. Alan

Re: Endorsements one by one [was Re: Endorsing David Neary]

2005-12-01 Thread Alan Horkan
the percentage of participation at any time may help increasing the percentage of vote at the end of the election, and it's a harmless data by itself. Thanks Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo

Endorsements one by one [was Re: Endorsing David Neary]

2005-11-30 Thread Alan Horkan
point. To change the subject slightly I'd be interested to know how good the turnout has been so far if it is not too much trouble for the Electoral committee to provide that kind of preliminary information. Sincerely Alan Horkan. ___ foundation-list

Foundation Elections - Voting systematically

2005-11-15 Thread Alan Horkan
the logic of how the voting system works but I remind you to consider carefully the value of your votes. Good luck to all the candidates. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: Why I voted YES

2005-10-28 Thread Alan Horkan
proposal (from Alan Horkan) last year was to use PR for foundation elections, rather than the multicast ballot without order of preference. Who's to say that Owen was not everyone's 10th preference I was informed PR (Proportional Representation) was an imprecise description we use locally

Re: Vote NO on referendum to reduce board members

2005-10-25 Thread Alan Horkan
* delegation and given the nature of the beast the idea of breaking down tasks into smaller parts and trying to get other to help out more seems to makes a lot of sense. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ foundation-list mailing

Re: poor man's SWOT analysis of GUADEC

2005-09-12 Thread Alan Cox
Opportunities: * no one else is really effectively reaching out to governments in most of the world, talking specifically about free software desktops as either a tool for them to use, or as a means of national economic empowerment * continue to see large deployments and corporate interest

Re: poor man's SWOT analysis of GUADEC

2005-09-12 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2005-09-12 at 17:28 +0200, Anne Østergaard wrote: Interest from others in building desktop conferences up (eg with OLS) Alan do you mean OttawaLinuxSymposium? The very same but with spaces between the words (TooMuchWikiIsBadForYou) I think desktop conferences are coming up soon

Re: GNOME trademark guidelines and user group agreement

2005-09-11 Thread Alan Cox
can get the source code for Fedora Core and remove that silly End User License Agreement, and you have not violated any laws... Untrue - if you are a US company and remove it and resell you may be breaking various US export regulations and other laws. Alan

Re: GNOME trademark guidelines and user group agreement

2005-09-09 Thread Alan Cox
distribution products labelled as GPL and when this has been pointed out the board has neither replied nor taken action to correct or indicate this was a mistake. Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Alan Horkan
could get behind that. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Alan Horkan
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Alan Horkan wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, David Neary wrote: Davyd Madeley came up with GConf. This isn't an improve and not enough of an improvement to merit the change. If you had said Gnome Con which should need no further explanation I might have been able to take

Re: Membership drive

2005-07-21 Thread Alan Horkan
this suggestion my +1 Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ ___ foundation-list mailing

Re: Distribution branding of GNOME

2005-03-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-03-09 at 15:43, Calum Benson wrote: they're Based on the OpenOffice.org project. No joy as yet unfortunately, but we do at least retain the About GNOME dialog and the contributor list. This is actually one issue that has come up with requests for the GPL revisions - to have