On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:53 AM, William Jon McCann <
william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > This would be a good FAQ. We really do need a gnome-shell FAQ I think.
> I
> > might help out on the whole community thing on shell if people are
> willing,
> > it depends on whether this six month
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
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>
> What about a community team that gives a place for these issues to be
> discussed in more depth? Thinking of something like the marketing team
> but with a mission such as "Make GNOME a great place where contribute"
> and of course, not ex
2010/6/3 Sriram Ramkrishna :
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> 2010/6/3 Andreas Nilsson
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>> On 06/03/2010 02:54 AM, Seif Lotfy wrote:
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>>> And don't get me wrong -- I happen to disagree with some stuff they're
>>> doing from time to time. But it doesn't mean I should stop trusting
>>> them.
>>
>> But would't you l
2010/6/3 Andreas Nilsson
> On 06/03/2010 02:54 AM, Seif Lotfy wrote:
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>
>
>> And don't get me wrong -- I happen to disagree with some stuff they're
>> doing from time to time. But it doesn't mean I should stop trusting
>> them.
>>
>
> But would't you like to have the points you disagree with b
2010/6/3 Sriram Ramkrishna :
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> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
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>> the GNOME Shell design and development process, as somebody that looks
>> at it (slightly) from the outside, and since its inception, has been
>> nothing *but* open. it's your classic open source merito
On 06/03/2010 02:54 AM, Seif Lotfy wrote:
And don't get me wrong -- I happen to disagree with some stuff they're
doing from time to time. But it doesn't mean I should stop trusting
them.
But would't you like to have the points you disagree with be discussed
or reevaluated?
I thin
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>
> the GNOME Shell design and development process, as somebody that looks
> at it (slightly) from the outside, and since its inception, has been
> nothing *but* open. it's your classic open source meritocratic project,
> with two benevolent
Hi!
> I think that from the outside is easy to misjudge things. Is anybody
> reading this thread that has *both* gotten involved in GNOME Shell
> development and also feels that the project is being unfairly driven
> by a single company?
I haven't contributed anything to GnomeShell (yet...) besid
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 07:13, Sergey Panov wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:45 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov wrote:
>> > I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat employees) that
>> > project is not just manned by the RedHat employees, but
Le jeudi 03 juin 2010 à 12:12 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
> Really, how is it different from what's happening in any other module? I
> can certainly blame Guillaume and Xavier for not being able to have
> metacontacts in empathy today while it's something I asked two years
> ago; but they've cho
Le jeudi 03 juin 2010, à 11:54 +0200, Seif Lotfy a écrit :
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > And don't get me wrong -- I happen to disagree with some stuff they're
> > doing from time to time. But it doesn't mean I should stop trusting
> > them.
>
> But would't you like t
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le jeudi 03 juin 2010, à 01:13 -0400, Sergey Panov a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:45 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov wrote:
> > > > I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat e
Le jeudi 03 juin 2010, à 01:13 -0400, Sergey Panov a écrit :
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:45 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov wrote:
> > > I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat employees) that
> > > project is not just manned by the RedHat
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:45 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov wrote:
> > I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat employees) that
> > project is not just manned by the RedHat employees, but controlled by
> > the company
>
> It's controlled by
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov wrote:
> I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat employees) that
> project is not just manned by the RedHat employees, but controlled by
> the company
It's controlled by the people doing the work, like any other project.
What does it mean t
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:31 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > > "The secret master plan"
> > >
> > > Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer
> > > somewhere! It
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:40 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:52 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> >> GNOME Shell is radically different here so it's not the "usual
> >> case". I wondered not about the supposed one-up
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:52 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> GNOME Shell is radically different here so it's not the "usual
>> case". I wondered not about the supposed one-upping the color choices
>> but about actually using the current the
From: Emmanuele Bassi
>> It's details like this that make the project look more like OpenOffice
>> than a GNOME app ("here's the resulting code" versus "here are the
>> plans and the rationale, please discuss").
>
> what's fundamental is that not everything should be open to discussion.
>
> sur
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:52 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> > sure, if you disagree on the choice of colors in the CSS theme then you
> > can discuss it with the UI design team - as long as you avoid
> > bike-shedding them to death because that's not nice and all; but if you
> > want to discuss th
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
>> I think the community would love to see some more "why" behind the "how" :)
>>
>> For example I'd like to know why shell reinvents the graphical toolkit
>> and comes with a (hardc
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > "The secret master plan"
> >
> > Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer
> > somewhere! It would be really useful
> >
> > To the extent we have a master pla
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:57:49AM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > "The secret master plan"
> >
> > Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer
> > somewhere! It would be really useful
> >
> > To the extent we have a mas
Hi!
>
> I think the community would love to see some more "why" behind the "how"
> :)
>
> For example I'd like to know why shell reinvents the graphical toolkit
> and comes with a (hardcoded?) theme which in turn makes it look out of
> place. Or why JS and not LUA or Python. I'm sure there was som
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> "The secret master plan"
>
> Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer
> somewhere! It would be really useful
>
> To the extent we have a master plan, it's in two documents
> that everybody has seen:
>
> http://www.gnom
"The secret master plan"
Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer
somewhere! It would be really useful
To the extent we have a master plan, it's in two documents
that everybody has seen:
http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/shell/design/GNOME_Shell-20091114.pdf
http://live
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