Re: Reducing the board size

2005-10-28 Thread Izabel Valverde
Hello all, I'd like to express my opinion. I've been following the messages and it seems clear why the solicitation to reduce the board it's been talking But I can't understand why this has to be chosen for the next election. I see that, as said before, if there was a clear definition of the

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-10-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Davyd Madeley This is only because the purpose of the board is badly defined and communicated. I think it is worth pointing out, that if the role of the board is better defined in the future and if the board is fixed, there is no reason that the number of directors can not be

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-10-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Vincent Untz I've heard lots of unconvincing arguments as well--on both sides. But, what is very convincing to me is the fact that it strongly appears that we don't have 11 motivated people running for the board. Motivated to do what? To get things done? That should not be

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-25 Thread David Neary
Hi, So, it's been over 10 days since the start of the thread, and I just wanted to make sure we hadn't forgotten about it. There were clearly mixed opinions on this. There were 6 or 7 people in favour of reducing the size, 6 or 7 people in favour of leaving it as is or not reducing it.

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-25 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi Dave, Today at 15:26, David Neary wrote: I would like to propose, then, that the referendum take place in October (to allow the vote to happen before the next board elections). I would like to board to ratify this, and ask the election committee to put the wheels in motion at our next

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-19 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:52:41PM +0200, Anne Østergaard wrote: Points of importance for the future of the Foundation should not be decided with 6 votes in favour and 5 against. For the record, such a situation never happened in the past. There have been issues where there was a relatively

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-19 Thread Bill Haneman
Dave Neary wrote: By the way, I'm having trouble taking this mail as anything other than a personal attack... ... Dave, for what it's worth I thought Anne raised very valid points here, and I took the message outside of any personal context. I agree with a lot of what Anne said (not

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Anne, I added some comments below. Le dimanche 18 septembre 2005 à 23:52 +0200, Anne Østergaard a écrit : By the way does the board have an agenda for each meeting? I have never seen one! I miss this tool. I believe so (although I'm not on the board ;-)). The agenda is probably only sent

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 19 septembre 2005 à 14:16 +0200, Dave Neary a écrit : Do you feel that you better represent the community's interests when planning conferences or building teams, Or doing marketing? I'm not answering the question since I'm unaware of the context. I just want to highlight the

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-18 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:00:30PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 9/14/05, Daniel Veillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:01:38PM +0200, David Neary wrote: I'm in favour of reducing the board to 7 people. I would like to see us have a referendum on the issue next month.

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-18 Thread Anne Østergaard
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 22:53 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 08:20 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: I'm also in favour of reducing the board size to 7. It recognizes the reality of how we work. That way of working is very good for lots of other parts of GNOME, but the board is

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/15/05, Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like increasing the size of the board by 3 people could achieve both of the goals that Dave was talking about: to get more things done, and to have more contested seats **(provided enough people decide to run so as to make a

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-15 Thread Bill Haneman
Murray Cumming wrote:... The fact that we are considering a referendum for this, even though it's not strictly necessary, proves that we have difficulty reaching consensus on stuff that can move us forward. I disagree; this is the sort of important decision that IMO should require a

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-15 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi, I +1 holding a referendum on this. Christian On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:01 +0200, David Neary wrote: Hi all, There has been some discussion on reducing the board size on the board, and the one point which is clear is that this discussion should be in public. I'm in favour of

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-15 Thread JP Rosevear
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:01 +0200, David Neary wrote: Hi all, There has been some discussion on reducing the board size on the board, and the one point which is clear is that this discussion should be in public. I'm in favour of reducing the board to 7 people. I would like to see us

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-15 Thread Richard M. Stallman
It sounds like increasing the size of the board by 3 people could achieve both of the goals that Dave was talking about: to get more things done, and to have more contested seats (provided enough people decide to run so as to make a real contest). ___

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-14 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Dave, Le mercredi 14 septembre 2005 à 21:01 +0200, David Neary a écrit : Hi all, There has been some discussion on reducing the board size on the board, and the one point which is clear is that this discussion should be in public. I'm in favour of reducing the board to 7 people. I

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-14 Thread David Neary
Tim Ney, GNOME Foundation wrote: On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 21:22 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mercredi 14 septembre 2005 à 21:01 +0200, David Neary a écrit : I'm in favour of reducing the board to 7 people. I would like to see us have a referendum on the issue next month. Just asking for a

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-14 Thread Bill Haneman
Leslie Proctor wrote: My experience is rather that all board members are busy members of the community, so getting people do do things is hard. If you get 7 persons instead of 11 you reduce also the amount of available time from board members. People running for the board will need more time