Re: Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

2013-07-30 Thread Simon BUCH
Dear Russ Framers, I tried MIF washing, and book updating, all to no avail. I suspect it's a nasty bug, but one that only a few people will experience. Regards // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS On 29/07/2013 19:22, r...@weststreetconsulting.com wrote: Simon, A book structure representation is

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread rebecca officer
Hi everyone I'm thinking about moving to the TCS subscription model (please don't all flame me at once). Does anyone know what'd happen if I wanted to change back to outright ownership in a couple of years? E.g. If I stayed on the subscription model until TCS6 was released, would I then be

A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Davis, David
Here's one of those nefarious colour questions ;) I'm using FrameMaker 11, although by the looks of the dialog I've got on my screen, these settings haven't changed since at least Frame 5.5 ;) I'm doing a doc where the company's branding guidelines ask for a squiggly line in a particular

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Peter Hirons
I think the only way to get a definitive answer is to ask Adobe. I suspect that by the time we get to TCS6 the only way will be with a subscription model. As long as the annual fee is not more than we're used to paying for our regular upgrades (depending on how often you upgrade of course)

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Tori Muir
Switching back to an owned version won't be an issue: in a couple of years TCS will be subscription-only. That's the path Adobe took with Creative Suite-- first year or two subscription was an option, soon it will be mandatory. They get more $ by forcing all users to

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Fred Ridder
Nobody--including Adobe--can say with any certainty that perpetual licenses (as opposed to monthly or annual subscription licenses) will even exist in a couple of years. Do you think that anybody could have told you two years ago what the terms would be for a TCS subscription license today? If

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release whether they want to or not, so barring the CS subscription-only model causing mass migration to other products (sadly, not likely), TCS will go the same path. I suspect that you are correct that mass migration to other

Re: A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Mike Wickham
If you include the graphic as an EPS file, it gets passed around the Windows GDI. So Windows won't RGBify it and will leave CMYK and Pantone intact. Mike Wickham On 7/29/2013 6:32 AM, Davis, David wrote: (Mind you, if I specify it as a CMYK, it's almost certainly going to RGB-ify it? Or

Re: A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Sullivan
David, define your color as Pantone 390C, specify spot color, and use the CMYK representation as the definition. Arnis may jump in to explain when Windows stopped bolloxing the colors, but with Win7, you should have no problems with the file. Doing a Save as PDF, using the Adobe PDF print

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread rebecca officer
My crystal ball's off for repairs. Thought I'd see if anyone else had a functional one. More seriously, I hoped that the people who are already on the TCS subscription might have got answers to this kind of question. Guess I should've mentioned that in my original post, sorry. Cheers Rebecca

RE: A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Craig Ede
I think you are overthinking this. You'll notice that if you choose Pantone Uncoated that the suffix is CVU. Take them at their word. Computer video is never coated or uncoated. I'm not even sure how they would do that. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

Any Issues Using Acrobat Pro XI with TCS 1, FM8?

2013-07-30 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Hello Fellow Framers, Is anyone successfully using the TCS1 package (or Frame 8) with Acrobat XI? Are there any gotchas or known issues I need to watch out for? I am using TCS 1 (FM8) with Acrobat Pro 9 on a Windows 7, 64-bit PC (recently upgraded) with no troubles creating FM to PDF output.

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Ø They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release whether they

RE: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston wrote: Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Ø They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with

Re: TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Tori Muir
Quark XPress is also an alternative, was around 1-12 years before Adobe created InDesign. It's quite good. Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 7/31/13 1:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Robert Lauriston wrote: Adobe has

Adding structured files into a book yields the wrong order in the structure

2013-07-30 Thread Simon BUCH
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TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Peter Hirons
I think the only way to get a definitive answer is to ask Adobe. I suspect that by the time we get to TCS6 the only way will be with a subscription model. As long as the annual fee is not more than we're used to paying for our regular upgrades (depending on how often you upgrade of course)

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Tori Muir
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TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Fred Ridder
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TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Mike Wickham
; RGB-ify it? Or has Frame11 stopped all that nonsense? I've read much > wailing and gnashing of teeth about this online) > > Regards, > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130730/1ab21747/attachment.html>

A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Sullivan
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A Pantone colour definition question

2013-07-30 Thread Craig Ede
nterweb appears to suggest this means "Computer Video"? Is that not something different? I am confused! Why doesn't it just say "C" for the suffix? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130730/14d1c213/attachment.html>

Any Issues Using Acrobat Pro XI with TCS 1, FM8?

2013-07-30 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
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TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > ? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new release > whether they want to or not,

TCS subscription model: Illustrator version, and can you go back to buying TCS outright as an upgrade later?

2013-07-30 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston wrote: > Adobe has something of a captive market with InDesign. The same isn't true > for FrameMaker and RoboHelp. > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain > (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > > ? They get more $ by forcing all users to upgrade with each new > >