Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-18 Thread Seraphim Larsen
This OLE renaming trick also works if the OLE is an embedded Excel file or a Word file. Just rename it to .xls or .doc. Seraphim On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:24:48 -0700, Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com wrote:

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-18 Thread Seraphim Larsen
This OLE renaming trick also works if the OLE is an embedded Excel file or a Word file. Just rename it to .xls or .doc. Seraphim On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:24:48 -0700, "Combs, Richard" > > wrote: > > >Actually, it's much worse than

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-09 Thread nancy carpenter
on Large files on a regular basis? To: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com, or...@marvell.com Message-ID: 8da6ba3f-1c33-4830-89b1-df416cf63...@alphabyte.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I would second Richard's recommendation

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-09 Thread strewth
You can also just save the Visio files as jpegs and import by reference. Works for me. Original message Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:55:43 +1300 From: Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz Subject: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis? To: Combs, Richard richard.co

RE: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?FM8 to FM7 to FM8 conditional text woes

2009-01-09 Thread Orly Zimmerman
FM crash on Large files on a regular basis? I agree with you guys, but the client of the moment is using a home-grown conversion program to generate HTML that requires GIFs or PNGs. So I've been using them more than (my preference too) PNGs. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com

RE: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-09 Thread Fred Ridder
In suggesting an alternative to using embedded Visio files and living with frequent crashes, stre...@rcn.com suggested: You can also just save the Visio files as jpegs and import by reference. Works for me. Yes, you can use some standard graphic file format for intermediate files, but JPEG

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-09 Thread Alan Litchfield
I would second Richard's recommendation. I would also add that when I have printed Visio files to PDF in the past I often get strange printing problems show up (depending on the version of Visio). These have been lines that appear in the printed output, text that truncates or disappears,

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-09 Thread nancy carpenter
crash on Large files on a regular basis? To: "Combs, Richard" Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com, orlyz at marvell.com Message-ID: <8DA6BA3F-1C33-4830-89B1-DF416CF63ADB at alphabyte.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I would second Richard's r

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-09 Thread Fred Ridder
In suggesting an alternative to using embedded Visio files and living with frequent crashes, strewth at rcn.com suggested: > You can also just save the Visio files as jpegs and import by reference. > Works for me. Yes, you can use some standard graphic file format for intermediate files, but

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:26:39 +0200, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote: I have an FM file that is 14 MB with lots of Visio embedded drawings in different conditionalized rows of the tables. ... Now, each time I do a compare, FM crashes on me. The corrupted file (with the .fm.c57 extension)

RE: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Sent too soon. I also meant to recommend an alternative workflow for Orly. Instead of importing native Visio files as OLE objects (either linked or embedded), print the Visio files to PDF and import that into FM. I think that's a better solution than Art's suggestion of exporting to a graphics

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Alan Litchfield
I would second Richard's recommendation. I would also add that when I have printed Visio files to PDF in the past I often get strange printing problems show up (depending on the version of Visio). These have been lines that appear in the printed output, text that truncates or disappears,

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
Yeah, I was including PDF as a viable graphic format to use to replace the OLE, just didn't call it out. However, PNG has been working really well from Visio 2007. So far. ;- ) Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52

RE: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Fred Ridder
Art Campbell wrote: Yeah, I was including PDF as a viable graphic format to use to replace the OLE, just didn't call it out. However, PNG has been working really well from Visio 2007. So far. ;- ) But it seems a shame to convert a vector graphic to a raster image unless one of the

RE: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Alan Litchfield wrote: I would second Richard's recommendation. I would also add that when I have printed Visio files to PDF in the past I often get strange printing problems show up (depending on the version of Visio). These have been lines that appear in the printed output, text that

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
I agree with you guys, but the client of the moment is using a home-grown conversion program to generate HTML that requires GIFs or PNGs. So I've been using them more than (my preference too) PNGs. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:24:48 -0700, Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com wrote: Actually, it's much worse than that. Visio embedded drawings are _not_ embedded graphics (in the FM sense) -- FM doesn't have an import filter for Visio files. They're actually embedded OLE objects. Much more of a

Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Swallow
14MB isn't huge but the embedded content might be the culprit. Embedded media can become corrupt, particularly when saving down/up and sharing files (black hole of WTF). My advice is to get your embedded items out of there and import by reference. You'll be loading a lot less into memory. On Thu,

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Orly Zimmerman
HI All, I have an FM file that is 14 MB with lots of Visio embedded drawings in different conditionalized rows of the tables. Now, I am trying to compare my last version of the doc with the newer version I just got from the engineer who updated the file. I am working in FM8, but had saved the

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:26:39 +0200, Orly Zimmerman wrote: >I have an FM file that is 14 MB with lots of Visio embedded >drawings in different conditionalized rows of the tables. ... >Now, each time I do a compare, FM crashes on me. The corrupted >file (with the .fm.c57 extension) shows that

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
I'd agree with Jeremy on almost all of this... except that it's impossible to embed a Visio drawing in an FM file, either by copying it in or by reference. You may have Viso files embedded as OLE objects, or you may have graphic files that were created using SaveAs from a Visio drawing. But you

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:26:39 +0200, Orly Zimmerman > wrote: > > >I have an FM file that is 14 MB with lots of Visio embedded > >drawings in different conditionalized rows of the tables. > ... > >Now, each time I do a compare, FM crashes on me. The corrupted > >file

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Sent too soon. I also meant to recommend an alternative workflow for Orly. Instead of importing native Visio files as OLE objects (either linked or embedded), print the Visio files to PDF and import that into FM. I think that's a better solution than Art's suggestion of exporting to a graphics

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
Yeah, I was including PDF as a viable graphic format to use to replace the OLE, just didn't call it out. However, PNG has been working really well from Visio 2007. So far. ;- ) Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Fred Ridder
Art Campbell wrote: > Yeah, I was including PDF as a viable graphic format to use to replace > the OLE, just didn't call it out. > However, PNG has been working really well from Visio 2007. So far. ;- ) But it seems a shame to convert a vector graphic to a raster image unless one of the

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Alan Litchfield wrote: > I would second Richard's recommendation. I would also add that when I > have printed Visio files to PDF in the past I often get strange > printing problems show up (depending on the version of Visio). These > have been lines that appear in the printed output, text that

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
I agree with you guys, but the client of the moment is using a home-grown conversion program to generate HTML that requires GIFs or PNGs. So I've been using them more than (my preference too) PNGs. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:24:48 -0700, "Combs, Richard" wrote: >Actually, it's much worse than that. "Visio embedded drawings" are _not_ >embedded graphics (in the FM sense) -- FM doesn't have an import filter >for Visio files. They're actually embedded OLE objects. Much more of a >problem than

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Swallow
14MB isn't huge but the embedded content might be the culprit. Embedded media can become corrupt, particularly when saving down/up and sharing files (black hole of WTF). My advice is to get your embedded items out of there and import by reference. You'll be loading a lot less into memory. On Thu,

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?

2009-01-08 Thread stre...@rcn.com
You can also just save the Visio files as jpegs and import by reference. Works for me. Original message >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:55:43 +1300 >From: Alan Litchfield >Subject: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis? >To: "Combs, Richa

Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis?>>FM8 to FM7 to FM8 conditional text woes

2009-01-08 Thread Orly Zimmerman
: Re: Does FM crash on Large files on a regular basis? I agree with you guys, but the client of the moment is using a home-grown conversion program to generate HTML that requires GIFs or PNGs. So I've been using them more than (my preference too) PNGs. Art Art Campbell art.campbell