RE: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8

2007-12-16 Thread Austin Meredith
Hard to believe that in another year FM'll be old enough to drink. Here's to those of us who have been with FM for the whole ride, all the way since the NeXT workstation! I'm not disappointed that I made this choice. ___ You are currently

RE: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8

2007-12-16 Thread Syed.Hosain
NeXT workstation is not the oldest version of FrameMaker ... I used FrameMaker on a Sun 3/50 back in 1988. In many states, that *is* old enough to drink! :) Z Hard to believe that in another year FM'll be old enough to drink. Here's to those of us who have been with FM for the whole ride,

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8

2007-12-16 Thread Austin Meredith
>Hard to believe that in another year FM'll be old enough to drink. Here's to those of us who have been with FM for the whole ride, all the way since the NeXT workstation! I'm not disappointed that I made this choice.

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8

2007-12-16 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
NeXT workstation is not the oldest version of FrameMaker ... I used FrameMaker on a Sun 3/50 back in 1988. In many states, that *is* old enough to drink! :) Z > >Hard to believe that in another year FM'll be old enough to drink. > > Here's to those of us who have been with FM for the whole

RE: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue)

2007-12-15 Thread Diane Gaskill
Of Peter Gold Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:50 PM To: Shlomo Perets Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue) On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adherence to time tables is certainly important

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-14 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hi Peter, Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply! My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state of affairs where a product is released as is so as not to miss a deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways. Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-14 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hi Peter, Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply! My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state of affairs where a product is released "as is" so as not to miss a deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways. Some other FM8 bugs/issues are

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Will White wrote: How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, They don't. In the meantime, I won't even think of

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Gold
On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the

RE: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Kelly McDaniel
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Gold Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 3:49 PM To: Shlomo Perets Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue) On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adherence to time tables

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Kelly: I just upgraded to v8 for a couple of handy workflow features (like tabs) but I could do without them in favor of stability. This release, especially the lack of fast-following patches, has me deep in the hunt for a new authoring tool...regards, Kelly/RockwellRegards, The tabs

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Will White wrote: > How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get > past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? > Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the > answer is, sadly, "They don't". > In the meantime, I won't even think of

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Gold
On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets wrote: > Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems > to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated > more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the > release according

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Peter Gold Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 3:49 PM To: Shlomo Perets Cc: Framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue) On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets wrote:

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book toPDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Kelly: > I just upgraded to v8 for a couple of handy workflow features (like tabs) but > I could do without them in favor of stability. > This release, especially the lack of fast-following patches, has me deep in > the hunt for a new authoring tool...regards, Kelly/RockwellRegards, The

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Alan Houser
The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's productivity using

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Whites
Hello All - How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, They don't. In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Well, to make F8 and F9 work you have to keep the Character Designer resp. Paragraph Designer closed -- that is what you would recommend to authors, don't you? With FM8.0p266 I found Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 to be working as expected, but to be able to use Ctrl+3 (Change Element) you need to have

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Whites
Hello All - How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, "They don't". In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Well, to make F8 and F9 work you have to keep the Character Designer resp. Paragraph Designer closed -- that is what you would recommend to authors, don't you? With FM8.0p266 I found Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 to be working as expected, but to be able to use Ctrl+3 (Change Element) you need to have