Am 04.08.2010 um 07:51 schrieb Steve Johnson:
And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?
Steve, No, they aren't. But some perceived bugs are (only) limitations of the
software.
Have they finally fixed the issue where you can't use cross-reference in text
insets?
This is a
And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?
Steve, No, they aren't. But some perceived bugs are (only) limitations of the
software.
Right on, Michael. And likewise, some limitations are only roadblocks
for a select few. I try to look for alternative solutions whenever
Bill says:
If you get creative with your authoring approach you can
handle most anything, and for everything else there's the API and
wonderful tools like FrameScript and IXGen.
If you have found a way to control pods and windows via the FDK, please let me
know! I'm desperate!
cud
Am 04.08.2010 um 07:51 schrieb Steve Johnson:
> And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?
Steve, No, they aren't. But some perceived bugs are (only) limitations of the
software.
> Have they finally fixed the issue where you can't use cross-reference in text
> insets?
This is
>> And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?
>
> Steve, No, they aren't. But some perceived bugs are (only) limitations of the
> software.
Right on, Michael. And likewise, some limitations are only roadblocks
for a select few. I try to look for alternative solutions whenever
Bill says:
>If you get creative with your authoring approach you can
>handle most anything, and for everything else there's the API and
>wonderful tools like FrameScript and IXGen.
If you have found a way to control pods and windows via the FDK, please let me
know! I'm desperate!
cud
And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying? Have they
finally fixed the issue where you can't use cross-reference in text
insets?
Have they fixed text insets so they don't bleed into the following paragraph?
Ah, not to worry. As long as the pods are up all is well in the world.
And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying? Lying? Who
called anyone a liar? I didn't even say that FM9 was bug free. It isn't. I
merely commented that the FM team has made real changes that all users can
take advantage of, rather than minor changes useful to only the DITA
Sorry, I'm retransmitting this for clarity because some of my text was
inadvertently set as quoteback of another person's message, instead of as my
own. I'm not sure what happened.
And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?
Lying? Who called anyone a liar? I didn't even say
My fundamental problem is that the new windowing model isn't properly exposed
in
the API. Also, it has some problems. Open a book, then open all files in
book. Especially if it has many files, you get funny results -- the document
windows nest within each other. I've raised this issue a
Yo,
On 4/08/2010, at 6:59 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
>>
> Their intent was to emulate other *Adobe* apps with floating
> toolbars and dockable dialogs. Over the years, Adobe had made only
> small changes to the original circa 1990 user interface that they
> bought from Frame Technologies in
> You should post this where it has a chance of doing some good, on the
> Adobe forum. My understanding is that Frame 9 was developed entirely
> overseas, safely away from anyone who might give them adverse but
> useful feedback.
> It's a big company thing to do: play up the window dressing
> And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying? Lying? Who
> called anyone a liar? I didn't even say that FM9 was bug free. It isn't. I
> merely commented that the FM team has made real changes that all users can
> take advantage of, rather than minor changes useful to only the
Sorry, I'm retransmitting this for clarity because some of my text was
inadvertently set as quoteback of another person's message, instead of as my
own. I'm not sure what happened.
> And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying?
Lying? Who called anyone a liar? I didn't even say
My fundamental problem is that the new windowing model isn't properly exposed
in
the API. Also, it has some problems. Open a book, then open all files in
book. Especially if it has many files, you get funny results -- the document
windows nest within each other. I've raised this issue a
And all the people who report bugs with Frame 9 are lying? Have they
finally fixed the issue where you can't use cross-reference in text
insets?
Have they fixed text insets so they don't bleed into the following paragraph?
Ah, not to worry. As long as the pods are up all is well in the world.
This is a long mail
Hello,
I have just migrated to FM 9.0 yesterday and IMHO, am finding the UI a pain
to use. Some of the issues that I am having are:
1. When using structured interface, using F8 to select a character style
creates a new element of the same type at the point where the style
Can these behavior be changed. I do not want dialogs to be persistent. I do
not want the Not Applicable element as the first in any selectable list.
I don't know. You may need to take some time to wade through maker.ini
and see if there's anything in there that can be changed.
IMHO, the
9.0 -
I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it.
Nadine
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
To: Venkat venkat.par...@gmail.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it.
Nadine
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallowtechcommd...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bill Swallowtechcommd...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
To: Venkatvenkat.par...@gmail.com
Cc
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
By menu-to-ribbon, are you referring to Word? If yes, click on this
link, then click Start the guide:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/interactive-word-2003-to-wor
d-2007-command-reference-guide-HA010074432.aspx
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical
And speaking as a 40-mumbley-aged person, the contrast of the black text on
the grey interface sucks, even with my reading glasses. I hate playing with
all the pods that fly about. I don't like the focus changing unexpectedly, I
just dislike having to pay so much attention to my interface, as it
I wouldn't say it's hard to use, but it certainly is difficult to use
efficiently. As you say, pods are everywhere. I am constantly hiding
and changing the docking location for ones I use regularly because
they are always in the way of the authoring area. The tool should not
get in the way of the
Speaking as a newbie, but also more than 40 years old, I really like the
interface. The black on gray makes the menus and such usable but unobtrusive,
and I like the fact that I can control the illumination. It's still hard to
learn (I made a few stabs with FM8), but seems much improved to me.
To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB; generic...@yahoo.ca;
venkat.par...@gmail.com; techcommd...@gmail.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: RANT: FM 9.0 -
Darren Butler wrote:
Why Adobe would want to emulate Microsoft is beyond me. What's next, a
dancing paper clip
Yo,
On 4/08/2010, at 6:59 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
Their intent was to emulate other *Adobe* apps with floating
toolbars and dockable dialogs. Over the years, Adobe had made only
small changes to the original circa 1990 user interface that they
bought from Frame Technologies in 1995, and
I'll buy that argument, but some consideration for those using it even
before the Adobe years would have been nice.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:03 PM, jdela...@comcast.net wrote:
Maybe they designed 9 to accommodate new users better.
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog:
And yes, the lack of contrast in the UI itself makes the UI a bit
difficult to stare at and read, but that appears to be an Adobe thing
because RoboHelp is the same way, only brighter.
There is some adjustment that's possible: File Preferences Interface UI
Brightness. There is also a third
You should post this where it has a chance of doing some good, on the
Adobe forum. My understanding is that Frame 9 was developed entirely
overseas, safely away from anyone who might give them adverse but
useful feedback.
It's a big company thing to do: play up the window dressing without
fussing
You should post this where it has a chance of doing some good, on the
Adobe forum. My understanding is that Frame 9 was developed entirely
overseas, safely away from anyone who might give them adverse but
useful feedback.
It's a big company thing to do: play up the window dressing without
Hello,
I have just migrated to FM 9.0 yesterday and IMHO, am finding the UI a pain
to use. Some of the issues that I am having are:
1. When using structured interface, using F8 to select a character style
creates a new element of the same type at the point where the style has to
be applied.
> Can these behavior be changed. I do not want dialogs to be persistent. I do
> not want the "Not Applicable" element as the first in any selectable list.
I don't know. You may need to take some time to wade through maker.ini
and see if there's anything in there that can be changed.
> IMHO, the
I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it.
Nadine
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallow wrote:
> From: Bill Swallow
> Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
> To: "Venkat"
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:27 AM
> > Can th
: RANT: FM 9.0 -
I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it.
Nadine
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallow wrote:
> From: Bill Swallow
> Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
> To: "Venkat"
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:27 AM
> >
Of Writer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:36 AM
> To: Venkat; Bill Swallow
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
>
> I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it.
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallow wrote:
>
&
at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
By menu-to-ribbon, are you referring to Word? If yes, click on this
link, then click "Start the guide":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/interactive-word-2003-to-wor
d-2007-command-reference-guide-HA010074432.aspx
Regards,
Shmu
Darren Butler wrote:
> Why Adobe would want to emulate Microsoft is beyond me. What's next, a
> dancing paper clip?
>
> We actually purchased 9.0 then down-graded (yes, you can do that) to
> FM8. High volume shop, NO time for an (un)learning curve.
>
> Are there any menu-to-ribbon road maps
And speaking as a 40-mumbley-aged person, the contrast of the black text on
the grey interface sucks, even with my reading glasses. I hate playing with
all the pods that fly about. I don't like the focus changing unexpectedly, I
just dislike having to pay so much attention to my interface, as it
I wouldn't say it's hard to use, but it certainly is difficult to use
efficiently. As you say, pods are everywhere. I am constantly hiding
and changing the docking location for ones I use regularly because
they are always in the way of the authoring area. The tool should not
get in the way of the
Speaking as a newbie, but also more than 40 years old, I really like the
interface. The black on gray makes the menus and such usable but unobtrusive,
and I like the fact that I can control the illumination. It's still hard to
learn (I made a few stabs with FM8), but seems much improved to me.
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:59 PM
To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB; generic668 at yahoo.ca;
venkat.partha at gmail.com; techcommdood at gmail.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: RANT: FM 9.0 -
Darren Butler wrote:
> Why Adobe would want to
I'll buy that argument, but some consideration for those using it even
before the Adobe years would have been nice.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:03 PM, wrote:
> Maybe they designed 9 to accommodate new users better.
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn:
> And yes, the lack of contrast in the UI itself makes the UI a bit
> difficult to stare at and read, but that appears to be an Adobe thing
> because RoboHelp is the same way, only brighter.
There is some adjustment that's possible: File> Preferences> Interface> UI
Brightness. There is also a
You should post this where it has a chance of doing some good, on the
Adobe forum. My understanding is that Frame 9 was developed entirely
overseas, safely away from anyone who might give them adverse but
useful feedback.
It's a big company thing to do: play up the window dressing without
fussing
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