RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy

2010-11-02 Thread Jon Harvey
) 588-9354 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:22 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Well, darn. I misread the original message

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2010-10-29 Thread Peter Hirons
: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Yves Barbion wrote: Hi group Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no update) costs: - US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store http://bit.ly/aXhtLv - US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe

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2010-10-29 Thread Yves Barbion
There is no such thing as a free lunch, Peter. ;-) By the way, the price ratio seems to be the same for other products too: the prices in the US store are 53 % of the prices in the European store! Hmmm, I'm wondering is there is anyone buying FrameMaker 9 Server in Europe, priced at 10746 EUR

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2010-10-29 Thread Tim J. Slager
: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy I had this same situation on this list some time back. I said this on the list on 18 October, 2009 (http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-October/018261.html ) Can anyone explain to me why it is that Adobe

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2010-10-29 Thread Layton, Debbie
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:24 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1 ship date

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2010-10-29 Thread John Hogan
As near as I can tell from their website, Adobe have abandoned the 3-D functionality altogether in version 10. So a big chunk of extended is gone from Acrobat X Pro anyway. Maybe they should pay us to make the switch from Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to Acrobat X Pro! Oh well. John -Original

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2010-10-29 Thread Steve Pawlowskis
@lists.frameusers.com; 'Mike Wickham' Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Well, I have to thank Dov for clarifying the numbering thing because I thought Acrobat X (pronounced 10) meant a return to version two! 8^0. Alan On 29/10/2010, at 10:14 AM, Spectrum Writing wrote: How about

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2010-10-29 Thread Bill Swallow
Well, RoboHelp started getting wonky with regard to versions after 1999. Versions went: 7 2000 9 2002 X3 X4 X5 6 7 8 9 Notice two version 7s and two version 9s, each roughly 10 years apart. I've learned not to think on these things too hard. It hurts. Bill On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:59 PM,

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2010-10-29 Thread Bill Swallow
That would be the most interesting software in the world. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Steve Pawlowskis ste...@kaufmanco.com wrote: If Adobe offered version 20 for really old operating systems would it be Acrobat DOS XX ? -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog:

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2010-10-29 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
If Adobe offered version 20 for really old operating systems would it be Acrobat DOS XX ? Steve Pawlowskis Technology Coordinator ROFL! Maybe that is what they were drinking when they came up with Acrobat X. :) :) Z ___ You are currently

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2010-10-29 Thread bernard
I don't PDF often, but when I do, I use DOS XX Bernard - Original Message - From: techcommd...@gmail.com To: ste...@kaufmanco.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: 10/29/10 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy That would be the most interesting software in the world

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2010-10-29 Thread Writer
Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten. Nadine --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy To: Steve Pawlowskis ste...@kaufmanco.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers

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2010-10-29 Thread Art Campbell
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1 ship date. It is pronounced Acrobat Ten - as usual, it's a marketing thing ...        - Dov -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

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2010-10-29 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC WR-ALC/ENGLTB
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten. Nadine --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy To: Steve Pawlowskis ste...@kaufmanco.com

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2010-10-29 Thread Richard Doll
Message - From: bern...@publishingsmarter.com To: techcommd...@gmail.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy I don't PDF often, but when I do, I use DOS XX Bernard - Original Message - From: techcommd

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2010-10-29 Thread Fei Min Lorente
mistake today. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:27 PM To: Mike Wickham; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Yeah, it's

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2010-10-29 Thread Milton, Cynthia
Classification: SERCO-PUBLIC Not just Adobe. Regardless of exchange rates, it's always been the case that the dollar price is more or less the same numerical value as the sterling price. Thus anything costing $100 in the US costs £100 over here (which is sometimes twice the actual price). VAT

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2010-10-29 Thread Writer
Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten. Nadine --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote: > From: Bill Swallow > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy > To: "Steve Pawlowskis" > Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" > Date: Friday, October 29, 201

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2010-10-29 Thread Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC WR-ALC/ENGLTB
at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten. Nadine --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote: > From: Bill Swallow > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy > To: "Steve Pawlowskis" > Cc: "framers at li

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2010-10-28 Thread Art Campbell
Does Belgium have a VAT? But why bother with 9? X is shipping... Art Campbell               art.campb...@gmail.com   ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson                                                       No

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2010-10-28 Thread Mike Wickham
But why bother with 9? X is shipping... Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10? Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to

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2010-10-28 Thread Alan T Litchfield
I had this same situation on this list some time back. I said this on the list on 18 October, 2009 (http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-October/018261.html ) Can anyone explain to me why it is that Adobe charges USD399 for the upgrade of FrameMaker to version 9 for domestic

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2010-10-28 Thread Alison Craig
...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:42 AM To: Mike Wickham Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy http

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2010-10-28 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
On 29/10/2010, at 8:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: My only [usual] gripe is with the upgrade pricing (like all Adobe upgrades!). It is $199 regardless of whether you have Acrobat 9 Pro *or* Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to go to Acrobat X Pro (there is only one X

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2010-10-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:08 PM To: Mike Wickham; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy But why bother with 9? X is shipping... Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10

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2010-10-28 Thread Bill Swallow
Can you buy it from a US store? Your chat log sounds like a support bot. Either that or Daryll has been watching too many Ed Wood movies. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full,

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2010-10-28 Thread Spectrum Writing
-Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM To: 'Mike Wickham'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy I read one of Adobe's

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2010-10-28 Thread Alan T Litchfield
-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM To: 'Mike Wickham'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy I read one of Adobe's press releases that said Acrobat X (pronounced 10). In my opinion, if you have to explain

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2010-10-28 Thread Mike Wickham
And if someone says, I'm an Acrobat X user, are they bragging or disgruntled? :) Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a

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2010-10-28 Thread Mike Wickham
Well, darn. I misread the original message and thought you were talking about FrameMaker 10 coming out. I knew about Acrobat X. Good luck getting people to pronounce it as Acrobat 10. I still hear people say OSX instead of OS 10. What a stupid naming idea. You just know some bug will be found

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2010-10-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Mike Wickham wrote: And if someone says, I'm an Acrobat X user, are they bragging or disgruntled? :) Well, it does offer Adobe a great new marketing opportunity: sponsoring the Acrobat X Games. (Sorry, but Friday's getting close!) Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc.

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2010-10-28 Thread William Abernathy
Yves Barbion wrote: Hi group Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no update) costs: - US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store http://bit.ly/aXhtLv - US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe Store - http://bit.ly/dtOSd3

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2010-10-28 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:24 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1 ship date. It is pronounced Acrobat Ten - as usual, it's a marketing thing ... - Dov -Original Message

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2010-10-28 Thread Fei Min Lorente
28, 2010 1:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy But why bother with 9? X is shipping... Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10? Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed

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2010-10-28 Thread Flato, Gillian
Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:35 PM To: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; 'Mike Wickham' Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy