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So what exactly is the pay range for a technical writer? I
So what exactly is the pay range for a technical writer? I ting I kan
rite gude and wude licke to chry eet.
Seriously. Actually I create work instructions for about 80% of my work
time.
Frank
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From: Gillian Flato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 20
Niels:
-> > how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for
-> > that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our
-> wealth (and
-> > jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long
-> > run.
John:
-> Niels...a point from both sides...
->
-> - If y
> how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for
> that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our wealth (and
> jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long
> run.
Niels...a point from both sides...
- If you can't get through the short run, the l
I appreciate that some you are afraid that the US will lose jobs to India and
such countries. But take a bigger perspective on this, will you? If India
(et.al.) are not involved with "Western" technology - if they don't get any
hi-tech jobs and industries - how are they ever going to be able to
> Let's not take ourselves too seriously.
>
> I'm not "demanding" anything, I could actually care less. I was
> just
> following up to John's point that no one benefits from outsourcing
> "except the consumer" to say that I have a hard time believing the
> consumer benefits that much either.
Not
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps, sure, but what about
us writers? We won't be very appreciative of the "trick" if we're
reduced to slinging hash at McDonalds. And if it reduces us to fry
cooks, you'd be hard pressed to convince us it *isn't* an evil.
I argue that if you are red
From a business standpoint, sure, it's about value but is there really
value in outsourcing, or is it just cheaper?
Talent is talent. It all depends on what you need. If you can get what
you need cheaper and without hassle, generally that route wins.
I did a contract at a company that had outs
Bureeda opines: <>
To me this gets us back to the original proposition, that the loss of jobs
can be compensated by an increase in value. Not always of course, as one or
more others argue, but in a thriving economy (like the one we're now
witnessing in our "off-shoring" society), that's more likel
> So, you seem to be saying that it requires no research
> whatsoever to "firmly" conclude that outsourcing does not
> resule in savings to the consumer, but you demand "firm"
> research to prove that it does save the consumer money.
>
> Rubbish.
Let's not take ourselves too seriously.
I'm no
--- Anne Robotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps,
> I don't think the companies that are saving money by
> outsourcing are
> necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer.
> I'd have to see some
> pretty firm research on that before I'd believe i
M
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Subject: Re: RE: Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Not entirely correct re: outsourcing.
There are many examples of companies cancelling their outsourced labor and
bringing the work back into their home offices (I haven't the time or desire
to cite, but there h
Yes but the companies are not strictly accountable to "the consumer," but
rather to "the shareholders." And shareholders rarely complain about
greater profits.
ljk
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Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
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> Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps,
I don't think the companies that are saving money by outsourcing are
necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer. I'd have to see some
pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it.
Anne
> I did a contract at a company that had outsourced its
> Tech Writing to India but after seeing how poorly the
> Indians wrote English, they brought TW back to America.
...
>
> So I don't think it is such a great thing.
To come to the conclusion that from hearing about ones that didn't
work,
Outsourcing is not an evil. It's evolution, and was bound to happen as
other countries break into the tech sphere. Balance will eventually be
met, as with anything. The trick is not how to keep jobs in higher-pay
regions, but how to deliver greater value.
Greater value? To whom? The consumer,
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