Re: New figure object [was Re: table and figure captions]

2008-06-12 Thread Hedley Finger
Fred Ridder wrote: I think it would be a great idea if we could treat anchored frames as embedded objects with similar properties to tables. But I do think it would want to be implemented for anchored frames generically rather than just for figures since some documents use anchored frames (or

Re: New figure object [was Re: table and figure captions]

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Wickham
Yeah, it is so fun to (a) insert a single-celled table previously set up as a format, (b) import a graphic file or create an anchored frame into the single para in the cell, and (c) set the anchored frame to At Insertion Point so you can get the spacing even all around, and then (d) adjust

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Hedley Finger
Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not > Figure captions? > You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why isn't there a figure object that is similar to a one-celled table, which is a pain to set up. The new figure

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Responding to Deirdre Reagan's original query, Hedley Finger wrote (in small part): > Deirdre Reagan wrote: > > Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not > > Figure captions? > > You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why > isn't there a

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Hedley Finger
Fred Ridder wrote: > I think it would be a great idea if we could treat anchored > frames as embedded objects with similar properties to tables. But I do > think it would want to be implemented for anchored frames generically > rather than just for figures since some documents use anchored frames

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Wickham
> Yeah, it is so fun to (a) insert a single-celled table previously set up > as a format, (b) import a graphic file or create an anchored frame into > the single para in the cell, and (c) set the anchored frame to At > Insertion Point so you can get the spacing even all around, and then (d) >

Re: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Hi Deirdre Welcome back from class! I don't know the why (other than anchored Frames don't have that function). And the only way a table automatically creates a caption is if the Add Title option is turned on for a table. So, my workaround? I create a table format specifically to hold graphics.

RE: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Shuttleworth, Roger
Hello Deirdre The presence of a table caption is determined by the table format as shown in the Table Designer. You can set it to No title if you wish. Figure captions are just paragraphs that you may or may not want to insert. If you are using structured FrameMaker, you can have a figure

RE: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Fred Ridder
Deirdre Reagan asked: Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not Figure captions? Tables are well-defined encapsulated objects, and one of the properties that is defined is an optional Title object. If you define a table format to include a Title object, every table

Re: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Peter Gold
One problem to be aware of when using single-cell tables with titles for graphics: If you specify paragraphs in the table-title area for generated TOCs, they will not be in the expected order because FM collects them from the page after it collects standard paragraphs. HTH Regards, Peter

Re: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
For figures, you can have a paragraph (style such as Figure style) with the next paragraph style defined as a Figure Caption style. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Shuttleworth, Roger wrote: Hello Deirdre The presence of a table caption is determined by the table format as shown in the Table

RE: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Lester C. Smalley
The issue I see is does the resulting structure still validate? If you have control over the DTD/Schema, you can resolve that problem by modifying the structural definition; if not you will have to do some very fancy translation on export (or import), or leave figures as non-table objects. On

RE: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Lief Erickson
, but one that is easily avoided. -Lief -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:54 AM To: Shuttleworth, Roger Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: table and figure captions For figures, you can have a paragraph

RE: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Syed.Hosain
-Original Message- I place my captions/titles above the image or table so that when the users click a link (to the caption) in the online help or PDFs, the image or table is still on the screen or page. If you link to captions that are below images, users have to scroll up to see the

RE: table and figure captions

2008-06-11 Thread Lester C. Smalley
I'd amend this caution with the items in the TOC MAY not be in the expected order: if there are multiple items being extracted from the same page, FM will grab everything applicable from the standard flow first then anything in the tables next. On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:46, Peter Gold wrote: