FM-9 UI: floating book window (was: Thumbs down: FrameMaker 9 Welcome Screen)
On 27 Mar 2009 at 0:23, Diane Gaskill wrote: I also do not like the fact that FM9 opens a book file on the left side of the FM window and its huge and docked. The last thing I need is to have a book file take up 1/3 of the screen. It's also VERY annoying to have to shrink it and move it every time I open it. This is a total waste of my time. The book file needs to return to the screen in whatever size and position it is saved in, just like FM8 and previous versions. They have made FM considerably less productive by forcing somebody's idea of pretty on everyone. Diane, The book window can (as any pod) be moved around. Just grab its title bar and move it away from its docked location to a place of your liking. It docks only on places where you see a light blue line underneath the transparent item moved around. But the location and size of the floating book window is not saved in the workspace (at least not in my test). It seams that only docked items ar stored in the workspace. IMHO this should be changed! And - IMHO this is a bug - as long as only the book window is open, there is no selection of workspaces possible. One of the last used workspaces is active (and not the one used just before the current session). The workpace selection requires an open document. Klaus Daube http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin verpassen. ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TOC Trouble
Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its generated status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to keep the first TOC working with the book? Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. ~ Don Spencer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: TOC Trouble
Donald, it sounds as if you're using the operating system's copy and delete commands to manipulate files in the book. Don't do that. Use the book tools. To recover the generated TOC, in the Book file: * Use the Delete Selected File From Book tool (trash can icon) to remove the dead TOC file from the book. * Use File Add to add a TOC. Select the headings that you want to include -- the ones that you had in your first generated TOC. Then update to produce a TOC with working entries, but unformatted. Save the file. Save the book file. Then, pick one of these methods to continue: 1. Open the old, formatted TOC file. * In the new TOC file, do Files Import Formats. Select the old TOC as the source file. Import everything -- all checkboxes. * Save the new TOC. * Update the book. or 2. Close the book file and any other component files that are open in Frame. * In Windows, use an explorer window to identify the new and the old TOC files. Make a note of the new one's file name -- it will probably differ slightly from the first version. * Rename the new TOC by changing the extension slightly, like from fm to fm.bak. * Rename the old formatted TOC to exactly the name of the new TOC. Remember that the name is case-sensitive. * Open the book again. Update. You should have updated content with the old formatting. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Donald W. Spencer donandju...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its generated status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to keep the first TOC working with the book? Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. ~ Don Spencer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: TOC Trouble
Don't worry, Don, it's *much* easier than you think. It's also somewhat easier than the procedures that Art Campbell already posted. As Art correctly stated, the first step is to remove the reinserted detailed TOC, which you added to the book as a static book component rather than as a generated file. Do this from the book window. The second step is to identify the file that is the outline TOC and use Windows to remove it from the directory where the book file and the chapter files reside. You can keep it if you wish, but you'll probably want to give it a new name that helps you identify how/why it's different from the live TOC. The third step is to place the file for the formatted, detailed TOC (or a copy o fthe file) into the directory you're using for the book and to give it the proper name. The magic name is booknameTOC.fm, where the string bookname is the name of the book file (without extension). The last step is to set up the book file to generate/update the TOC as you want it. If you did, in fact, remove the outline TOC from the book file already, you need to set up for a new TOC using the AddTable of Contents command from the book file. (You do *not* want to use FileAdd as Art recommended in his first procedure, because that adds it as a static content file which will never be updated.) In the Set Up Table of Contents dialog, select the paragraph tags you want to include, verify that the specified suffix is TOC (to match the way you remnamed the formatted TOC file), and click OK. Then in the Update Book dialog, click Update. At that point FrameMaker will look for an existing file with the expected name (booknameTOC.fm), and since it finds one it will update that existing formatted file rather than generating a new, unformatted TOC. If, on the other hand, the book file still includes a generated file icon (which is different than a static content file icon, in case you've never looked closely) for the now unwanted outline TOC, you need to highlight that file in the book window and then choose EditSet Up Table of Contents to revise the list of paragraphs to include. Once you've selected the para tags for your detailed outline and verified the correct suffix string, proceed to update the book and you're done. -Fred Ridder From: donandju...@earthlink.net To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: TOC Trouble Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:24:15 -0700 Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its generated status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: TOC Trouble
Just to clarify one point... in the second bullet item below... you want to do File Add TOC, not just add any old file. I thought that would be plain because we're talking about a TOC, but perhaps not. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: Donald, it sounds as if you're using the operating system's copy and delete commands to manipulate files in the book. Don't do that. Use the book tools. To recover the generated TOC, in the Book file: * Use the Delete Selected File From Book tool (trash can icon) to remove the dead TOC file from the book. * Use File Add to add a TOC. Select the headings that you want to include -- the ones that you had in your first generated TOC. Then update to produce a TOC with working entries, but unformatted. Save the file. Save the book file. Then, pick one of these methods to continue: 1. Open the old, formatted TOC file. * In the new TOC file, do Files Import Formats. Select the old TOC as the source file. Import everything -- all checkboxes. * Save the new TOC. * Update the book. or 2. Close the book file and any other component files that are open in Frame. * In Windows, use an explorer window to identify the new and the old TOC files. Make a note of the new one's file name -- it will probably differ slightly from the first version. * Rename the new TOC by changing the extension slightly, like from fm to fm.bak. * Rename the old formatted TOC to exactly the name of the new TOC. Remember that the name is case-sensitive. * Open the book again. Update. You should have updated content with the old formatting. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Donald W. Spencer donandju...@earthlink.net wrote: Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its generated status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to keep the first TOC working with the book? Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. ~ Don Spencer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM-9 UI: floating book window (was: Thumbs down: FrameMaker 9 Welcome Screen)
On 27 Mar 2009 at 0:23, Diane Gaskill wrote: > I also do not like the fact that FM9 opens a book file on the left side of > the FM window and its huge and docked. The last thing I need is to have a > book file take up 1/3 of the screen. It's also VERY annoying to have to > shrink it and move it every time I open it. This is a total waste of my > time. The book file needs to return to the screen in whatever size and > position it is saved in, just like FM8 and previous versions. They have > made FM considerably less productive by forcing somebody's idea of > "pretty" on everyone. Diane, The book window can (as any pod) be moved around. Just grab its title bar and move it away from its docked location to a place of your liking. It docks only on places where you see a light blue line underneath the transparent item moved around. But the location and size of the floating book window is not saved in the workspace (at least not in my test). It seams that only docked items ar "stored" in the workspace. IMHO this should be changed! And - IMHO this is a bug - as long as only the book window is open, there is no selection of workspaces possible. One of the last used workspaces is active (and not the one used just before the current session). The workpace selection requires an open document. Klaus Daube http://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin verpassen. ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: ddd at daube.ch W: www.daube.ch
TOC Trouble
Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its "generated" status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to keep the first TOC working with the book? Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. ~ Don Spencer
TOC Trouble
Seems I've done something similar... I'd try renaming the generated file, adding a new generated TOC to the book and then import the format from the old file. You'll have to update the book file again after importing the format, but it would save hand-formatting. Mollye Barrett, ClearPath, LLC content management solutions 414-331-1378 (cell) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Donald W. Spencer Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:24 AM To: Framers (E-mail) Subject: TOC Trouble Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. But this file has now lost its "generated" status and is not recognized by Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file once again? I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to keep the first TOC working with the book? Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. ~ Don Spencer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mollye at clearpath.cc. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mollye%40clearpath.cc Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TOC Trouble
Donald, it sounds as if you're using the operating system's copy and delete commands to manipulate files in the book. Don't do that. Use the book tools. To recover the generated TOC, in the Book file: * Use the Delete Selected File From Book tool (trash can icon) to remove the dead TOC file from the book. * Use File > Add to add a TOC. Select the headings that you want to include -- the ones that you had in your first generated TOC. Then update to produce a TOC with working entries, but unformatted. Save the file. Save the book file. Then, pick one of these methods to continue: 1. Open the old, formatted TOC file. * In the new TOC file, do Files > Import Formats. Select the old TOC as the source file. Import everything -- all checkboxes. * Save the new TOC. * Update the book. or 2. Close the book file and any other component files that are open in Frame. * In Windows, use an explorer window to identify the new and the old TOC files. Make a note of the new one's file name -- it will probably differ slightly from the first version. * Rename the new TOC by changing the extension slightly, like from fm to fm.bak. * Rename the old formatted TOC to exactly the name of the new TOC. Remember that the name is case-sensitive. * Open the book again. Update. You should have updated content with the old formatting. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Donald W. Spencer wrote: > Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: > > Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. > > Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as > an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. > I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, > full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. > But this file has now lost its "generated" status and is not recognized by > Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. > > Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is > there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file > once again? > > I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline > question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion > outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if > a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to > keep the first TOC working with the book? > > Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. > > ~ Don Spencer > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
TOC Trouble
Don't worry, Don, it's *much* easier than you think. It's also somewhat easier than the procedures that Art Campbell already posted. As Art correctly stated, the first step is to remove the reinserted detailed TOC, which you added to the book as a static book component rather than as a generated file. Do this from the book window. The second step is to identify the file that is the outline TOC and use Windows to remove it from the directory where the book file and the chapter files reside. You can keep it if you wish, but you'll probably want to give it a new name that helps you identify how/why it's different from the "live" TOC. The third step is to place the file for the formatted, detailed TOC (or a copy o fthe file) into the directory you're using for the book and to give it the proper name. The "magic" name is booknameTOC.fm, where the string "bookname" is the name of the book file (without extension). The last step is to set up the book file to generate/update the TOC as you want it. If you did, in fact, remove the outline TOC from the book file already, you need to set up for a new TOC using the Add>Table of Contents command from the book file. (You do *not* want to use File>Add as Art recommended in his first procedure, because that adds it as a static content file which will never be updated.) In the Set Up Table of Contents dialog, select the paragraph tags you want to include, verify that the specified suffix is TOC (to match the way you remnamed the formatted TOC file), and click OK. Then in the Update Book dialog, click Update. At that point FrameMaker will look for an existing file with the expected name (booknameTOC.fm), and since it finds one it will update that existing formatted file rather than generating a new, unformatted TOC. If, on the other hand, the book file still includes a generated file icon (which is different than a static content file icon, in case you've never looked closely) for the now unwanted outline TOC, you need to highlight that file in the book window and then choose Edit>Set Up Table of Contents to revise the list of paragraphs to include. Once you've selected the para tags for your detailed outline and verified the correct suffix string, proceed to update the book and you're done. -Fred Ridder > From: donandjudy1 at earthlink.net > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: TOC Trouble > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:24:15 -0700 > > Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: > > Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. > > Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as > an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. > I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, > full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. > But this file has now lost its "generated" status and is not recognized by > Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. > > Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is > there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file > once again?
TOC Trouble
Just to clarify one point... in the second bullet item below... you want to do File > Add TOC, not just add any old file. I thought that would be plain because we're talking about a TOC, but perhaps not. Cheers, Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > Donald, it sounds as if you're using the operating system's copy and > delete commands to manipulate files in the book. > Don't do that. Use the book tools. > > To recover the generated TOC, in the Book file: > > * Use the Delete Selected File From Book tool (trash can icon) to > remove the dead TOC file from the book. > * Use File > Add to add a TOC. Select the headings that you want to > include -- the ones that you had in your first generated TOC. Then > update to produce a TOC with working entries, but unformatted. Save > the file. Save the book file. > > Then, pick one of these methods to continue: > > 1. Open the old, formatted TOC file. > * In the new TOC file, do Files > Import Formats. Select the old TOC > as the source file. Import everything -- all checkboxes. > * Save the new TOC. > * Update the book. > > or > 2. Close the book file and any other component files that are open in Frame. > * In Windows, use an explorer window to identify the new and the old > TOC files. Make a note of the new one's file name -- it will probably > differ slightly from the first version. > * Rename the new TOC by changing the extension slightly, like from fm to > fm.bak. > * Rename the old formatted TOC to exactly the name of the new TOC. > Remember that the name is case-sensitive. > * Open the book again. Update. You should have updated content with > the old formatting. > > Cheers, > Art > > > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com > ?"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? DoD 358 > > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Donald ?W. Spencer > wrote: >> Hello to all, especially Peter Gold: >> >> Using Frame 7.2 on Home XP, SP3, I've created a problem with my TOC. >> >> Awhile back, I generated a reduced TOC to submit to potential publishers as >> an outline, but neglected to do so as a stand-alone. >> I eventually deleted that TOC from the book and reinstated the previous, >> full-sized and completely formatted TOC back into the book. >> But this file has now lost its "generated" status and is not recognized by >> Frame as such, so it does not update when I update the book. >> >> Am I doomed to rebuild and reformatted the entire TOC from scratch, or is >> there some way I can get Frame to recognize the old file as a generated file >> once again? >> >> I mentioned Peter G., because I was inspired by his response to an outline >> question where he describes creating a separate TOC to use as a companion >> outline. The need to generate a stand-alone isn't mentioned therein. But if >> a TOC is already established, isn't creating a stand-alone the only way to >> keep the first TOC working with the book? >> >> Thanks in advance to all, Peter especially. >> >> ~ Don Spencer >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >
