Hello,
How are you making the PDF?
Using File > Print, and sending the print job to the Adobe PDF printer?
I would first of all check the Adobe PDF print options. The 'standard'
settings will often downsample monochome, gray scale, and colour
graphics to unacceptable quality. Then
Ouch. My sympathies.
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 10:24 AM wrote:
> I am not the one responsible for creating and maintaining the equations.
> They are maintained by a SME on the client side and the SME needs them in a
> tool that he can use which is Word. Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening
> at
Hi Lin, Thank you for the approach. The extra rub is that I need to produce
another document that uses the exact same equations but w/out all the text
of this current guide - basically, just an appendix of equations, so I need
to be able to share them among multiple files. I was trying to write
Well, that sucks. If it's any help, when Word converts to RTF, the
equations are turned into PNGs. It should be possible to save them out
separately. I think. Never had to do something like that with Word.
Also, you can export images only from the PDF file to PNG, JPEG, JPEG2000,
and TIFF
And not a stupid one- it's totally valid. - Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot
vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com
-Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Friday,
August 6, 2021 6:06 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker
I am not the one responsible for creating and maintaining the equations.
They are maintained by a SME on the client side and the SME needs them in a
tool that he can use which is Word. Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening
at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original
Hi Simon, I was doing this: The best way to get the 'graphics' from Word is
to save the document as DOCX format, and open the DOCX from ZIP archive
program such as 7-zip. Alternatively, do a File > Save As [or wherever
Microsoft have moved the function], and save the file to HTML format - which
Thank you! I will see what this leads to. It is much appreciated. TVB Tammy
Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: Framers On
Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 9:26 AM To: An email list
for people
Thanks, but I tried this approach and the equations are not being recognized
as media/graphics objects. There is no media folder w/ the equations as
PNGs. I have no idea why they are being recognized as media objects for a
web export, but not this approach. The equations are being rasterized at a
Hello Tammy,
I have seen this effect before [many years ago with FrameMaker 5.5.6!]
where one customer wanted to insert content from Office, and so did a
Copy, and Paste in FrameMaker. This resulted in a "Object link
embedded" graphic. With a range of tests, we determined that you
Also, below is what I suggested on the Adobe community, in case you hadn't
seen it yet:
Just for giggles, I tried saving a Word file with an equation in it as an
RTF and then using Frame to open the file. The equation came over okay, and
when I save the file to PDF, it looks the same in the PDF
Probably a stupid question, but is there a reason you're creating the
equations in Word rather than in Frame's Equation Editor?
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 6:32 PM wrote:
> I have an equation-laden document that I am writing. The equations are
> being
> created in a Word doc (.docx) using Word's
Ummm... I thought about going outside the box and searched the web for
extracting images from PDF. One of the interesting results suggested using
Export all images from within Acrobat. Of course, one needs to start by
saving or exporting the Word source document to PDF. I don't have a running
For reference, PNG is _always_ a "raster" (a lossless, color bitmap), it is not
a vector format at all.
In general, for raster images, JPEG is decent to good for photographs only. If
you want to keep lines and font "straight" (for example for business graphics
and text, etc.) without any
So, here's the low down: 1.) For the Word doc that contains the equations: >
In Word, under File / Options / Advanced / Image Size and Quality, I
selected "Do Not Compress Images in File" and changed the default output to
High fidelity. 2.) I then saved the doc as an htm/html file and followed the
As another thought, you might try posting to the Word-PC email list and see
if anyone has a suggestion for how to get the equations OUT of Word in a
format you can use?
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 1:45 PM Lin Sims wrote:
> I saved to RTF and then imported the RTF into FrameMaker. The result in
>
Hi Lin, No worries about your instructions. I am still kinda' in the same
boat in that the equations are all in one great big file, so I would have to
make multiple files to import as RTF. Where can I find this Word-PC list? Do
you have a website/link at all? And thank you so much! TVB Tammy Van
Hi Lin,
That is a brilliant idea. Let me forward this on to Rick.
See, I knew this list would think of something to try!
Thank you!
TVB
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From: Framers
On
Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 12:03 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker
Hi Lin, OK, just saved one of the equation docs to RTF and nada, zip, zilch.
. . the equations were not converted to PNGs. They remained as equations.
It's just a simple save to RTF, right? GRR . . . Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot
vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com
I suspect the answer is that whoever is creating the equations does not have
(and does not want to have to pay for and learn how to use) a FrameMaker
license.
But a perhaps less stupid question is whether it's possible and practical to
use a free-standing equation editor (e.g., MathType,
What process are you using to create the PDF? And what versions of Frame
and Acrobat?
And what settings? Turning off compressions of graphics, specifying high
quality print in the Acrobat printer, etc.?
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this
Are there any options you or the SME author can set, which would affect the
equation editor's HTML output? If so, are there any meaningful
improvements? Any roads not yet taken?
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 12:04 PM Fred Ridder wrote:
> I suspect the answer is that whoever is creating the equations
To address a lot of questions in one email: None of these are stupid questions,
and I don't take any as such. I have to be cognizant of what my SME prefers and
is comfortable with to maintain and edit the equations, but I need to use
Framemaker because the manual is a massive technical manual
What I was thinking was import the one RTF file into FrameMaker, then save
the graphics out since once it's in Frame it's a PNG. Someone like Rick
Quatro or Russ Ward or Bernard Aschwanden probably has a script that does
that already, or can write one for not too much money.
Although from the
I saved to RTF and then imported the RTF into FrameMaker. The result in
FrameMaker was a PNG.
I'm sorry, I think I didn't make that clear before. :(
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 12:29 PM wrote:
> Hi Lin, OK, just saved one of the equation docs to RTF and nada, zip,
> zilch.
> . . the equations were
Sounds like you don't have High Quality Print selected in the PDF settings.
https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemaker-2015/frm_generating_output/Configure_PDF_settings-.htm
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM wrote:
>
> ... I then import the image into Framemaker by
>
I have been reading this thread with some interest, but remain confused about
one thing.
As I understand (perhaps incorrectly?), since the equation "source" that is
brought into FrameMaker is a PNG image (right?), _all_ knowledge of fonts,
text, equation info, etc. is really not in there.
I did a quick trial run. For whatever reason, converting to html provided
TWO PNG files, one that had a good quality and one that was just miserable.
The good quality one is still raster, not vector, but it looked pretty good
up to about 400% or so.
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 4:16 PM Peter Gold
Here is a summary of the issue:
Equations originate from the client in MS Word.
Tammy wants to save the equations as images for import into FrameMaker.
The fastest way to do this is to save the Word file as HTML because it
rasterizes the equations as PNG files for inclusion in the HTML. The
I find equation creation in LaTeX incredibly powerful, but does need some
experience since it is not WYSIWYG as you note. But, once you use it for
equations, other WYSIWYG tools appear very limited.
I do not know LyX, but for me, the ability to see the output PDF from LaTeX
source text (in
I think I found the answer for how to get the PNG files to a higher quality:
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In Word, under File / Options / Advanced / Image Size and Quality, check
"Do Not Compress Images in File" and change the default output to High
fidelity.
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In the Save As dialog box, Tools / Web
Lin harnessed the Force using Yoda-wisdom: "The sound of the right answer
comes from asking the right question! "
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 3:08 PM Lin Sims wrote:
> I think I found the answer for how to get the PNG files to a higher
> quality:
>
>
>-
>
>In Word, under File / Options /
Hi Lin, Yep, I noticed that as well - I would get two images, one miserable
and one good and I had no idea as to why. I will try this and let you know
ASAP. OMG - thank you! Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at
spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original
Message-
I think I mentioned it, earlier, but I no longer recall if Tammy tried it
or not.
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 11:20 PM Peter Gold
wrote:
> Ummm... I thought about going outside the box and searched the web for
> extracting images from PDF. One of the interesting results suggested using
> Export all
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