Israeli FrameMaker UG meetings -- Nov. 6 (Haifa), Dec. 13 (Yokneam)
Next meeting of the FrameMaker user group will be held Monday, November 6, in Haifa (6pm). Topics include: * XML Structured FrameMaker PDF -- Paul Inbar Case studies describing how Structured FrameMaker was used to publish PDFs from developer-authored and automatically-generated documentation * Running Headers/Footers -- Shlomo Perets Techniques for retrieving information from body pages into running headers/footers, including paragraph tags, markers, variables and more. (thanks to Intel for hosting this meeting!) The FrameScript presentations given at our July meeting (Ra'anana) will be repeated in Yokneam (in association with the Yokneam Forum of Technical Writers), Wednesday, December 13 (5pm): * FrameScript: Overview -- Shlomo Perets * FrameScript Day-by-Day -- David Schor Examples of scripts which, by reducing steps and repetitions, drastically reduce labor time in FrameMaker projects * Using FrameScript to Automate the Generation of a Data Book or Catalogue -- Paul Schnall A case study (thanks to Marvell for hosting this meeting!) Admission is free; registration is required. To join the Israeli FrameMaker user group, please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!)
Hi All, Not too long ago, there was some discussion about having a landscape page in a book of otherwise portrait pages. The concensus seemed to be that although it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages and adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly, it doesn't fit good usability models. My gut tells me it's a proverbial Pandora's box. Well, now we've got the same issue: someone says a secondary audience (internal) for the doc in question want to see all the alarm info in one big landscape table, rather than chunked in ways that facilitate presenting on a portrait page. Our primary audience is external customers. And the someone is a Word user who likes to cowboy the formatting, regardless of what's in the templates. So, before I spend the time to develop a landscape template and train the writers on when it's OK to use it and how to make it function, could someone please tell me where I could find some sound usability studies that weigh in on either side of this issue? Thanks, Rene Stephenson Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!)
Usability... no clue on that one. But all you need to do is create additional master pages using a landscape layout and then apply the master pages to the necessary body pages. You certainly don't need to insert files or use separate templates to do this. On 11/2/06, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not too long ago, there was some discussion about having a landscape page in a book of otherwise portrait pages. The concensus seemed to be that although it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages and adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly, it doesn't fit good usability models. My gut tells me it's a proverbial Pandora's box. Well, now we've got the same issue: someone says a secondary audience (internal) for the doc in question want to see all the alarm info in one big landscape table, rather than chunked in ways that facilitate presenting on a portrait page. Our primary audience is external customers. And the someone is a Word user who likes to cowboy the formatting, regardless of what's in the templates. So, before I spend the time to develop a landscape template and train the writers on when it's OK to use it and how to make it function, could someone please tell me where I could find some sound usability studies that weigh in on either side of this issue? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob I see your OOO message and raise you a clue. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Any conferences in January 2007
Hello Framers I was just curious if there are any international conferences lined up in early next year related to Advanced Framemaker (EDD, XML). Thanx for the information Best Regards Surbhi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Any conferences in January 2007
Hello: The FrameMaker Chautauqua (conference) will be held in Fall 2007. Dates are still November TBD but will be set before the end of this year. This year's Frame conference is next week in Austin TX: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/chautindex.html . In February 2007 there will be a DITA 2007 conference in San Jose that is going to include some Structured FrameMaker presentations. Info is being posted to the same site as presentations are confirmed. Thank you, Kay Kay Ethier Senior Trainer Consultant Bright Path Solutions PO Box 14265 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265 1.919.244.8559 FAX: 1.919.474.9223 URL: http://www.travelthepath.com Conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/ SKYPE = kayper -Original Message- From: Surbhi Singhal Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:46 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Any conferences in January 2007 Hello Framers I was just curious if there are any international conferences lined up in early next year related to Advanced Framemaker (EDD, XML). Thanx for the information Best Regards Surbhi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Israeli FrameMaker UG meetings -- Nov. 6 (Haifa), Dec. 13 (Yokneam)
Next meeting of the FrameMaker user group will be held Monday, November 6, in Haifa (6pm). Topics include: * XML > Structured FrameMaker > PDF -- Paul Inbar Case studies describing how Structured FrameMaker was used to publish PDFs from developer-authored and automatically-generated documentation * Running Headers/Footers -- Shlomo Perets Techniques for retrieving information from body pages into running headers/footers, including paragraph tags, markers, variables and more. (thanks to Intel for hosting this meeting!) The FrameScript presentations given at our July meeting (Ra'anana) will be repeated in Yokneam (in association with the Yokneam Forum of Technical Writers), Wednesday, December 13 (5pm): * FrameScript: Overview -- Shlomo Perets * FrameScript Day-by-Day -- David Schor Examples of scripts which, by reducing steps and repetitions, drastically reduce labor time in FrameMaker projects * Using FrameScript to Automate the Generation of a Data Book or Catalogue -- Paul Schnall A case study (thanks to Marvell for hosting this meeting!) Admission is free; registration is required. To join the Israeli FrameMaker user group, please write to Framers_Israel at microtype.com Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!)
Hi All, Not too long ago, there was some discussion about having a landscape page in a book of otherwise portrait pages. The concensus seemed to be that although it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages and adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly, it doesn't fit good usability models. My gut tells me it's a proverbial Pandora's box. Well, now we've got the same issue: someone says a secondary audience (internal) for the doc in question want to see all the alarm info in one big landscape table, rather than chunked in ways that facilitate presenting on a portrait page. Our primary audience is external customers. And the "someone" is a Word user who likes to "cowboy" the formatting, regardless of what's in the templates. So, before I spend the time to develop a landscape template and train the writers on when it's OK to use it and how to make it function, could someone please tell me where I could find some sound usability studies that weigh in on either side of this issue? Thanks, Rene Stephenson Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com
landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!)
Usability... no clue on that one. But all you need to do is create additional master pages using a landscape layout and then apply the master pages to the necessary body pages. You certainly don't need to insert files or use separate templates to do this. On 11/2/06, Rene Stephenson wrote: > Not too long ago, there was some discussion about having a landscape page > in a book of otherwise portrait pages. The concensus seemed to be that > although it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages > and adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly, it doesn't fit good > usability models. My gut tells me it's a proverbial Pandora's box. > > Well, now we've got the same issue: someone says a secondary audience > (internal) for the doc in question want to see all the alarm info in one big > landscape table, rather than chunked in ways that facilitate presenting on a > portrait page. Our primary audience is external customers. And the "someone" > is a Word user who likes to "cowboy" the formatting, regardless of what's in > the templates. So, before I spend the time to develop a landscape template > and train the writers on when it's OK to use it and how to make it function, > could someone please tell me where I could find some sound usability studies > that weigh in on either side of this issue? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob "I see your OOO message and raise you a clue."
Any conferences in January 2007
Hello: The FrameMaker Chautauqua (conference) will be held in Fall 2007. Dates are still November TBD but will be set before the end of this year. This year's Frame conference is next week in Austin TX: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/chautindex.html . In February 2007 there will be a DITA 2007 conference in San Jose that is going to include some Structured FrameMaker presentations. Info is being posted to the same site as presentations are confirmed. Thank you, Kay Kay Ethier Senior Trainer & Consultant Bright Path Solutions PO Box 14265 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265 1.919.244.8559 FAX: 1.919.474.9223 URL: http://www.travelthepath.com Conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/ SKYPE = kayper -Original Message- From: Surbhi Singhal Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:46 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Any conferences in January 2007 Hello Framers I was just curious if there are any international conferences lined up in early next year related to Advanced Framemaker (EDD, XML). Thanx for the information Best Regards Surbhi
landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!)
Rene, I am not sure how the understanding of portrait pages that you describe (about having a landscape page in a book of otherwise portrait pages. The consensus seemed to be that although it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages and adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly), came about, but I can assure you unequivocally that this is not the case. I have a master template file that is a single file that has all portrait pages for Master pages, save one, and it's my Landscape page. No special/separate file or numbering properties are needed. If you decide that you want to have a landscape page in your file, let me know and I can send you the instructions for how to set it up in a file. FWIW, my users have always given very positive feedback about using landscape pages when necessary. Having all of the information in a single view was way more helpful than having to scroll through multiple pages. HTH, TVB -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+tvanboening=insureworx@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+tvanboening=insureworx.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene Stephenson Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:27 AM To: framers at FrameUsers.com Subject: landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!) Hi All, Not too long ago, there was some discussion about having a landscape page in a book of otherwise portrait pages. The concensus seemed to be that although it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages and adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly, it doesn't fit good usability models. My gut tells me it's a proverbial Pandora's box. Well, now we've got the same issue: someone says a secondary audience (internal) for the doc in question want to see all the alarm info in one big landscape table, rather than chunked in ways that facilitate presenting on a portrait page. Our primary audience is external customers. And the "someone" is a Word user who likes to "cowboy" the formatting, regardless of what's in the templates. So, before I spend the time to develop a landscape template and train the writers on when it's OK to use it and how to make it function, could someone please tell me where I could find some sound usability studies that weigh in on either side of this issue? Thanks, Rene Stephenson Rene L. Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. Business Phone: 678-513-0051 Email: rinnie1 at yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as tvanboening at insureworx.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tvanboening%40insure worx.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
landscape pages in a portrait book (DOH!)
Usability: I tend to agree with your idea about staying with the portrait pages, just so that it will be easier for the user. Who wants to turn a book sideways? But if you must... go for the landscape. On the other hand, here is what I did in Word last year for a similar problem. Made a section break, inserted a landscape page, made a new section break. It actually held together, the hassle was the header and footer. It sounds like the process Bill Swallow suggested is the equivalent and easier to handle than making separate files, etc. Good luck, and please let us know how it worked out. Susan Curtzwiler Bill Swallow wrote: Usability... no clue on that one. But all you need to do is create additional master pages using a landscape layout and then apply the master pages to the necessary body pages. You certainly don't need to insert files or use separate templates to do this. On 11/2/06, Rene Stephenson wrote: > Not too long ago, there was some discussion about having a landscape page in > a book of otherwise portrait pages. The concensus seemed to be that although > it can be done by inserting a separate file for the landscape pages and > adjusting the page numbering settings accordingly, it doesn't fit good > usability models. My gut tells me it's a proverbial Pandora's box. > > Well, now we've got the same issue: someone says a secondary audience > (internal) for the doc in question want to see all the alarm info in one big > landscape table, rather than chunked in ways that facilitate presenting on a > portrait page. Our primary audience is external customers. And the "someone" > is a Word user who likes to "cowboy" the formatting, regardless of what's in > the templates. So, before I spend the time to develop a landscape template > and train the writers on when it's OK to use it and how to make it function, > could someone please tell me where I could find some sound usability studies > that weigh in on either side of this issue? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob "I see your OOO message and raise you a clue." ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as smcurtzwiler at sbcglobal.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/smcurtzwiler%40sbcglobal.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
