Re: Searching for empty paragraphs
Hi Pat, Mekon has a plug-in called mTools. It can remove empty paragraphs, but I'm not sure what it does with the formatting of the paragraphs you want to keep. It has been a while since I've used it. You can find more information about mTools here: http://www.mekon.com/Technology/A-Z/MTools/index.jsp Kind regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On 10/5/07, Pat Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with that is when you replace it with \p (to get rid of the empty), you lose the paragraph formatting you want to keep unless both paragraphs (the good one and the empty one) use the same format. That's what made ^\p such a good solution - you could replace it with nothing. Pat On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Pat, How about \P\p Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe earlier). Any suggestions? If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. Thanks. Pat Christenson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Searching for empty paragraphs
At 08:45 +0200 5/10/07, Yves Barbion wrote: Mekon has a plug-in called mTools. It can remove empty paragraphs, but I'm not sure what it does with the formatting of the paragraphs you want to keep. It has been a while since I've used it. You can find more information about mTools here: http://www.mekon.com/Technology/A-Z/MTools/index.jsp Which says 'A Macintosh version will follow at a later date.' I guess it never did? :-( -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash
Ah. I haven't the means of digging into each tool to find the breaking point. I just know that FM8 + Acrobat 8.1 = burp. ;-) Thanks Dov! On 10/5/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based upon what we know, it is highly unlikely that the Acrobat 8.1 update has anything to do with the problems of save as PDF with FrameMaker 8. Problems appear to be in FrameMaker 8. Update for FrameMaker 8 under development now. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Searching for empty paragraphs
Pat Christenson wrote: Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe earlier). Any suggestions? If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. In Word, search on ^p^p to find empty pgfs; replace with ^p. (A brief experiment indicates it won't mess up formatting, but you'd be wise to verify.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Searching for empty paragraphs
I've changed ^P^P to ^P in Word documents that are hundreds of pages long. I've found it to be pretty reliable. If I recall correctly, you can also use ^13^13 to ^13. Right now, I can't remember the difference between ^p and ^13 but I know there is one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:10 AM To: Pat Christenson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Searching for empty paragraphs Pat Christenson wrote: Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe earlier). Any suggestions? If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. In Word, search on ^p^p to find empty pgfs; replace with ^p. (A brief experiment indicates it won't mess up formatting, but you'd be wise to verify.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges oft.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Searching for empty paragraphs
The approach Stuart describes for Word will not mess up formatting. I've used the following Word macro for the past several years to clean up extra paragraphs and extra spaces. YMMV, but in Word 2000 and Word 2003, it has worked well for me. It may appear to have a few extra iterations of the replace command than seems necessary at first blush, but in my experience, they do no harm and tackle those documents truly replete with extra paragraphs and spaces. Sub SpaceAndParagraphRemover() ' ' SpaceAndParagraphRemover Macro ' Macro recorded 6/16/2003 by Jim Pinkham ' Selection.Find.ClearFormatting Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find .Text = .Replacement.Text = .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll With Selection.Find .Text = ^p^p .Replacement.Text = ^p .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll End Sub HTH, Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:10 AM To: Pat Christenson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Searching for empty paragraphs Pat Christenson wrote: Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe earlier). Any suggestions? If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. In Word, search on ^p^p to find empty pgfs; replace with ^p. (A brief experiment indicates it won't mess up formatting, but you'd be wise to verify.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Searching for empty paragraphs
Jon Harvey wrote: I've changed ^P^P to ^P in Word documents that are hundreds of pages long. I've found it to be pretty reliable. If I recall correctly, you can also use ^13^13 to ^13. Right now, I can't remember the difference between ^p and ^13 but I know there is one. Didn't know you could do that; but the ^13 would be ASCII for CR (carriage return), as opposed to ^10, which is LF (line feed). In the olden days, you had to use both to tell a line printer to move the print head left and roll the paper up. Word's ^p would be the equivalent of ^13^10, I guess. sr -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Searching for empty paragraphs
Word uses ^l (also accessible from the Special tab of the expanded Find and Replace menu) for what it calls a manual line break. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:07 AM To: Jon Harvey Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Searching for empty paragraphs Jon Harvey wrote: I've changed ^P^P to ^P in Word documents that are hundreds of pages long. I've found it to be pretty reliable. If I recall correctly, you can also use ^13^13 to ^13. Right now, I can't remember the difference between ^p and ^13 but I know there is one. Didn't know you could do that; but the ^13 would be ASCII for CR (carriage return), as opposed to ^10, which is LF (line feed). In the olden days, you had to use both to tell a line printer to move the print head left and roll the paper up. Word's ^p would be the equivalent of ^13^10, I guess. sr -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash
A little more testing and here is where I am at: [1] Once or twice I was able to save a non XML document as a PDF if I un-checked Generate Tagged PDF. Now that isn't working again. [2] I have another document authored using elements/XML, and I cannot save it as a PDF with Generate Tagged PDF checked OR un-checked. I just can't do it! [3] I also can't send the XML file to the Adobe Printer - it errors out. [4] I also tired creating a PostScript file - that works. Then I attempt to convert the PS to PDF and get: %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: ) ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% FYI, I did not install the PDF Creation add on when I installed. I'm wondering if I need to somehow synch up the settings for Frame-Distiller-Acrobat? Maybe something is conflicting in the settings somewhere? I don't want to install the PDF Creation thing because it rips Acrobat Pro out of my machine. This situation is really frustrating and I'm thinking that Adobe better come up with a fix soon. They are trumpeting this product (and I like it) but if it consistently crashes when JW On 10/4/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens when you print it to the Adobe PDF printer instance? And there are a bunch of templates... is it an individual file, or a book with components, or something else? Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? Art On 10/4/07, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my situation: Windows XP Frame 8 Acrobat Distiller Acrobat 8 Pro I am using a template from the Frame 5 template pack that I modified in Frame 8. I attempt a 'Save As PDF' and Frame immediately crashes - no error, no nothing. Any clues as to what is going on? -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash
I meant to say that if it consistently crashes when attempting to generate a PDF, what good is it? On 10/5/07, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little more testing and here is where I am at: [1] Once or twice I was able to save a non XML document as a PDF if I un-checked Generate Tagged PDF. Now that isn't working again. [2] I have another document authored using elements/XML, and I cannot save it as a PDF with Generate Tagged PDF checked OR un-checked. I just can't do it! [3] I also can't send the XML file to the Adobe Printer - it errors out. [4] I also tired creating a PostScript file - that works. Then I attempt to convert the PS to PDF and get: %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: ) ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% FYI, I did not install the PDF Creation add on when I installed. I'm wondering if I need to somehow synch up the settings for Frame-Distiller-Acrobat? Maybe something is conflicting in the settings somewhere? I don't want to install the PDF Creation thing because it rips Acrobat Pro out of my machine. This situation is really frustrating and I'm thinking that Adobe better come up with a fix soon. They are trumpeting this product (and I like it) but if it consistently crashes when JW On 10/4/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens when you print it to the Adobe PDF printer instance? And there are a bunch of templates... is it an individual file, or a book with components, or something else? Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? Art On 10/4/07, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my situation: Windows XP Frame 8 Acrobat Distiller Acrobat 8 Pro I am using a template from the Frame 5 template pack that I modified in Frame 8. I attempt a 'Save As PDF' and Frame immediately crashes - no error, no nothing. Any clues as to what is going on? -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Searching for empty paragraphs
Hi Pat, In Word, replacing all ^p^p with ^p should work. Regards, Anne Smith Senior Technical Writer, RD Paradigm 820 Gessner #400 Houston, Texas 77024 USA 713-393-4989 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.paradigmgeo.com --- This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame in Windows emulation
Thanks to those who replied to my request. I'm somewhat more confident of continuing given your input. Graeme ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Hello Framers, I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the end, which includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially numbered PowerPoint slides (yes, that's 12,000, it will be several hundred pages). I'd like to do a dictionary style layout. I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of each page like a dictionary, showing the first and last entry on each page. Works great. What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator between parts. I'd like to do a separator between each 1000 slides. I have two dictionaries and a thesaurus here that show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to flow with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Any ideas? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: HTML to FrameMaker Case Study
Hello Framers, I have long used FrameScript and MSXML to import XML into unstructured FrameMaker files. MSXML is great because it uses standard XML technologies such as XPath and XSLT to access and manipulate XML files. FrameScript can drive MSXML using its EActiveXObject object. There have been several instances where I wanted to import HTML files into FrameMaker, but it wasn't possible with MSXML because it requires well-formed XML. In some cases, it wasn't feasible or practical to convert the HTML to well-formed XML. During a recent project, I discovered a simple workaround to the HTML problem. I used regular expressions to extract the necessary section from the HTML document and convert it to a well-formed XML document. Then I used my usual MSXML process to import the data into FrameMaker. I have outlined the process in a small case study. You can see the PDF here http://www.frameexpert.com/demos/htmltoframe.pdf If you have any need for HTML to FrameMaker conversions, please let me know. We can explore if it is feasible using FrameScript and MSXML. If your data is non-proprietary and you would like to participate in a more detailed case study, please let me know. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Missing some bookmarks in PDF
Hi all- We're using FM 7.2p158 unstructured, on Windows XP Pro 2002 SP-2. One of my colleagues is producing several books for an upcoming release. Last week, he came to me for help with one of them -- seems that not all the bookmarks generated properly. The books (and therefore the bookmarks) are very simple -- cover page, generated TOC, up to a dozen or so chapters and maybe an Appendix or two. The bookmarks are supposed to include the TOC and the Chapter Titles (with Chapter Numbers). What he was supposed to see in the bookmarks panel in his PDF: Table of Contents Chapter 1 Introduction Chapter 2 Before you Begin Chapter 3 Whatever the Title is for Chapter 3 Chapter 4 ... What he got: Table of Contents Chapter 3 Whatever the Title is for Chapter 3 Chapter 4 ... I think we've seen this before, but I can't remember what the cause was, or even if we found one. I fiddled around with the source files to make sure he hadn't used any paragraph format overrides that would exclude the first two chapters from the book, and they were clean. I generated the PS file from my machine, using my Distiller settings (we don't necessarily use the same drivers/settings) and got the same results. So I poked around some more, didn't see anything out of place, and regenerated everything again. All is well. I sent him the source files, he regenerated the PDF on his machine and all is hunky-dory. We shrugged it off, thinking it was an anomaly, but just now he got similar results with a different book he's producing (except this time, Chapters 1-4 are missing, instead of only 1 and 2). Has anyone else seen this, or have any ideas as to why this would be happening? Lin ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Dictionary style layout in Frame
If it was me, I'd use that as the chapter name tag and have that start each of the chapters/files in the book. In the paragraph designer: * On the Basic Tab, set alignment to Center. * Pick a big point size for the letter. * On the Pagination tab, activate the checkbox to run across all columns. * On the Numbering tab, set to Autonumber with the $chapnum variable. * On the Advanced tab, set Frame Below to Single Line. Or Double Line if you're in a risk-taking mood. In your book file, highlight all the files and set Chapter Numbering to upper case letters. Cheers, Art On 10/5/07, Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Framers, I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the end, which includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially numbered PowerPoint slides (yes, that's 12,000, it will be several hundred pages). I'd like to do a dictionary style layout. I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of each page like a dictionary, showing the first and last entry on each page. Works great. What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator between parts. I'd like to do a separator between each 1000 slides. I have two dictionaries and a thesaurus here that show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to flow with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Any ideas? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Dictionary style layout in Frame
Tina Ricks wrote: When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to flow with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Art's method is going to work great if you want each letter to start a new page, but I think what you want is for text to flow from the top of the left column down to the middle of the left column, jump to the top of the right column down to the middle of the right column, back to the left column in the middle, span both columns with a letter break, then continue with text in the left column under the break filling the remainder of the left and right columns. The only way I know to do this in Frame is by using two text frames, one for the top two columns, and a second one for the letter break and the bottom two columns. Since the letter break is not likely to end up in the same vertical position for every letter, this is not something you could accomplish with one master page, although you could certainly do it with 26 (one for each letter). But I'm not sure of the benefit of making 26 master pages, each of which would have to be adjusted every time the text reflowed. Probably just as easy and maintainable to use one master page with two text boxes and adjust each usage of that page locally. If you have any control over the design, starting each letter on a new page and following Art's instructions will make life a lot simpler. Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Theresa de Valence wrote: Hello Framers, I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart quotes as regular quotes? Theresa, In the Find dialog box, search for \` and replace with \g and search for \' and replace with \g The backslash plus grave accent finds smart left quotes, and the backslash plus apostrophe finds smart right quotes. The backslash g is a non-smart (stupid?) regular double quote. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Dictionary style layout in Frame
Ken, I think the tag method would work with flowing text, too, but I wouldn't want to see the size of a single file after you imported 12,000 slides. It'd take a while to do much. Like to move from page to page... That's why I prefaced my message with I would. ... break it into 26 files. ;- ) Art On 10/5/07, Kenneth C. Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tina Ricks wrote: When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to flow with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Art's method is going to work great if you want each letter to start a new page, but I think what you want is for text to flow from the top of the left column down to the middle of the left column, jump to the top of the right column down to the middle of the right column, back to the left column in the middle, span both columns with a letter break, then continue with text in the left column under the break filling the remainder of the left and right columns. The only way I know to do this in Frame is by using two text frames, one for the top two columns, and a second one for the letter break and the bottom two columns. Since the letter break is not likely to end up in the same vertical position for every letter, this is not something you could accomplish with one master page, although you could certainly do it with 26 (one for each letter). But I'm not sure of the benefit of making 26 master pages, each of which would have to be adjusted every time the text reflowed. Probably just as easy and maintainable to use one master page with two text boxes and adjust each usage of that page locally. If you have any control over the design, starting each letter on a new page and following Art's instructions will make life a lot simpler. Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Oops! \g produces: Last night instead of Last night Ideas? Thanks, Theresa Theresa de Valence wrote: Hello Framers, I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart quotes as regular quotes? And Stuart Rogers wrote: In the Find dialog box, search for \` and replace with \g and search for \' and replace with \g ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Sorry! The characters did not survive the post to the list. \g produces a character which _looks like_ two commas. Any idea what it is? Any idea how I get Frame to replace with what the post to the List achieved? Thanks. From: Theresa de Valence Oops! \g produces: Last night instead of Last night Ideas? Theresa de Valence wrote: Hello Framers, I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart quotes as regular quotes? And Stuart Rogers wrote: In the Find dialog box, search for \` and replace with \g and search for \' and replace with \g ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Theresa de Valence wrote: Sorry! The characters did not survive the post to the list. \g produces a character which _looks like_ two commas. Any idea what it is? Any idea how I get Frame to replace with what the post to the List achieved? Thanks. From: Theresa de Valence Oops! \g produces: Last night instead of Last night Ideas? Sorry, my bad; I was going by memory. It sounds like you're finding the smart quotes ok, it's just the replacement that isn't working. Well, instead of \g, first turn off Smart Quotes in the FM doc, and then type a double-quote somewhere, copy it, and paste it into the replace with box. I think... I'm not in FM right now and don't have time to test. HTH -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com On the contrary. -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little better.) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Searching for empty paragraphs
Hi Pat, Mekon has a plug-in called "mTools". It can remove empty paragraphs, but I'm not sure what it does with the formatting of the paragraphs you want to keep. It has been a while since I've used it. You can find more information about mTools here: http://www.mekon.com/Technology/A-Z/MTools/index.jsp Kind regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor On 10/5/07, Pat Christenson wrote: > > The problem with that is when you replace it with \p (to get rid of > the empty), you lose the paragraph formatting you want to keep unless > both paragraphs (the "good" one and the empty one) use the same > format. That's what made ^\p such a good solution - you could replace > it with nothing. > > Pat > > On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: > > > Hi Pat, > > > > How about \P\p > > > > Rick Quatro > > Carmen Publishing > > 585-659-8267 > > www.frameexpert.com > > > >> Hi all - > >> For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate > >> empty paragraphs: > >> ^\p > >> (start of line followed by paragraph ending) > >> It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, > >> maybe earlier). Any suggestions? > >> If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid > >> of them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. > >> Thanks. > >> Pat Christenson > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Searching for empty paragraphs
At 08:45 +0200 5/10/07, Yves Barbion wrote: >Mekon has a plug-in called "mTools". It can remove empty paragraphs, but I'm >not sure what it does with the formatting of the paragraphs you want to >keep. It has been a while since I've used it. > >You can find more information about mTools here: > >http://www.mekon.com/Technology/A-Z/MTools/index.jsp Which says 'A Macintosh version will follow at a later date.' I guess it never did? :-( -- Steve
Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash
Ah. I haven't the means of digging into each tool to find the breaking point. I just know that FM8 + Acrobat 8.1 = burp. ;-) Thanks Dov! On 10/5/07, Dov Isaacs wrote: > Based upon what we know, it is highly unlikely that the Acrobat 8.1 > update has anything to do with the problems of "save as PDF" with > FrameMaker 8. Problems appear to be in FrameMaker 8. Update for > FrameMaker 8 under development now. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
Searching for empty paragraphs
Pat Christenson wrote: > Hi all - > > For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty > paragraphs: > > ^\p > (start of line followed by paragraph ending) > > It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe > earlier). Any suggestions? > > If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of > them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. In Word, search on ^p^p to find empty pgfs; replace with ^p. (A brief experiment indicates it won't mess up formatting, but you'd be wise to verify.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.")
Searching for empty paragraphs
I've changed ^P^P to ^P in Word documents that are hundreds of pages long. I've found it to be pretty reliable. If I recall correctly, you can also use ^13^13 to ^13. Right now, I can't remember the difference between ^p and ^13 but I know there is one. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:10 AM To: Pat Christenson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Searching for empty paragraphs Pat Christenson wrote: > Hi all - > > For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty > paragraphs: > > ^\p > (start of line followed by paragraph ending) > > It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe > earlier). Any suggestions? > > If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of > them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. In Word, search on ^p^p to find empty pgfs; replace with ^p. (A brief experiment indicates it won't mess up formatting, but you'd be wise to verify.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.") ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jharvey at cambridgesoft.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jharvey%40cambridges oft.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Searching for empty paragraphs
The approach Stuart describes for Word will not mess up formatting. I've used the following Word macro for the past several years to clean up extra paragraphs and extra spaces. YMMV, but in Word 2000 and Word 2003, it has worked well for me. It may appear to have a few extra iterations of the replace command than seems necessary at first blush, but in my experience, they do no harm and tackle those documents truly replete with extra paragraphs and spaces. Sub SpaceAndParagraphRemover() ' ' SpaceAndParagraphRemover Macro ' Macro recorded 6/16/2003 by Jim Pinkham ' Selection.Find.ClearFormatting Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find .Text = " " .Replacement.Text = " " .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll With Selection.Find .Text = "^p^p" .Replacement.Text = "^p" .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll End Sub HTH, Jim -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:10 AM To: Pat Christenson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Searching for empty paragraphs Pat Christenson wrote: > Hi all - > > For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate > empty > paragraphs: > > ^\p > (start of line followed by paragraph ending) > > It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe > earlier). Any suggestions? > > If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of getting rid of > them in Word? I have a bunch of conversion work coming up. In Word, search on ^p^p to find empty pgfs; replace with ^p. (A brief experiment indicates it won't mess up formatting, but you'd be wise to verify.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.") ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Searching for empty paragraphs
Jon Harvey wrote: > I've changed ^P^P to ^P in Word documents that are hundreds of pages > long. I've found it to be pretty reliable. If I recall correctly, you > can also use ^13^13 to ^13. Right now, I can't remember the difference > between ^p and ^13 but I know there is one. Didn't know you could do that; but the ^13 would be ASCII for CR (carriage return), as opposed to ^10, which is LF (line feed). In the olden days, you had to use both to tell a line printer to move the print head left and roll the paper up. Word's ^p would be the equivalent of ^13^10, I guess. sr -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.")
Searching for empty paragraphs
Word uses "^l" (also accessible from the Special tab of the expanded Find and Replace menu) for what it calls a "manual line break". -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jim.pinkham=voith.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:07 AM To: Jon Harvey Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Searching for empty paragraphs Jon Harvey wrote: > I've changed ^P^P to ^P in Word documents that are hundreds of pages > long. I've found it to be pretty reliable. If I recall correctly, you > can also use ^13^13 to ^13. Right now, I can't remember the difference > between ^p and ^13 but I know there is one. Didn't know you could do that; but the ^13 would be ASCII for CR (carriage return), as opposed to ^10, which is LF (line feed). In the olden days, you had to use both to tell a line printer to move the print head left and roll the paper up. Word's ^p would be the equivalent of ^13^10, I guess. sr -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.") ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame in Windows emulation
Thanks to those who replied to my request. I'm somewhat more confident of continuing given your input. Graeme
Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash
A little more testing and here is where I am at: [1] Once or twice I was able to save a non XML document as a PDF if I un-checked "Generate Tagged PDF." Now that isn't working again. [2] I have another document authored using elements/XML, and I cannot save it as a PDF with "Generate Tagged PDF" checked OR un-checked. I just can't do it! [3] I also can't send the XML file to the Adobe Printer - it errors out. [4] I also tired creating a PostScript file - that works. Then I attempt to convert the PS to PDF and get: %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: ) ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% FYI, I did not install the PDF Creation add on when I installed. I'm wondering if I need to somehow synch up the settings for Frame-Distiller-Acrobat? Maybe something is conflicting in the settings somewhere? I don't want to install the PDF Creation thing because it rips Acrobat Pro out of my machine. This situation is really frustrating and I'm thinking that Adobe better come up with a fix soon. They are trumpeting this product (and I like it) but if it consistently crashes when JW On 10/4/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > What happens when you print it to the Adobe PDF printer instance? > And there are a bunch of templates... is it an individual file, or a > book with components, or something else? > Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? > > Art > > On 10/4/07, Joel wrote: > > Here is my situation: > > Windows XP > > Frame 8 > > Acrobat Distiller > > Acrobat 8 Pro > > > > I am using a template from the Frame 5 template pack that I modified in > > Frame 8. I attempt a 'Save As PDF' and Frame immediately crashes - no > error, > > no nothing. Any clues as to what is going on? > > > > > -- > Art Campbell > art.campbell at gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 >
Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash
I meant to say that if it consistently crashes when attempting to generate a PDF, what good is it? On 10/5/07, Joel wrote: > > A little more testing and here is where I am at: > [1] Once or twice I was able to save a non XML document as a PDF if I > un-checked "Generate Tagged PDF." Now that isn't working again. > [2] I have another document authored using elements/XML, and I cannot save > it as a PDF with "Generate Tagged PDF" checked OR un-checked. I just can't > do it! > [3] I also can't send the XML file to the Adobe Printer - it errors out. > [4] I also tired creating a PostScript file - that works. Then I attempt > to convert the PS to PDF and get: > %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: ) ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > > > FYI, I did not install the PDF Creation add on when I installed. I'm > wondering if I need to somehow synch up the settings for > Frame-Distiller-Acrobat? Maybe something is conflicting in the settings > somewhere? I don't want to install the PDF Creation thing because it rips > Acrobat Pro out of my machine. This situation is really frustrating and I'm > thinking that Adobe better come up with a fix soon. They are trumpeting this > product (and I like it) but if it consistently crashes when > > JW > > On 10/4/07, Art Campbell wrote: > > > > What happens when you print it to the Adobe PDF printer instance? > > And there are a bunch of templates... is it an individual file, or a > > book with components, or something else? > > Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? > > > > Art > > > > On 10/4/07, Joel wrote: > > > Here is my situation: > > > Windows XP > > > Frame 8 > > > Acrobat Distiller > > > Acrobat 8 Pro > > > > > > I am using a template from the Frame 5 template pack that I modified > > in > > > Frame 8. I attempt a 'Save As PDF' and Frame immediately crashes - no > > error, > > > no nothing. Any clues as to what is going on? > > > > > > > > > -- > > Art Campbell > > art.campbell at gmail.com > > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > > No disclaimers apply. > > DoD 358 > > > >
Searching for empty paragraphs
Hi Pat, In Word, replacing all ^p^p with ^p should work. Regards, Anne Smith Senior Technical Writer, R Paradigm 820 Gessner #400 Houston, Texas 77024 USA 713-393-4989 asmith at paradigmgeo.com www.paradigmgeo.com --- This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message.
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Hello Framers, I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the end, which includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially numbered PowerPoint slides (yes, that's 12,000, it will be several hundred pages). I'd like to do a dictionary style layout. I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of each page like a dictionary, showing the first and last entry on each page. Works great. What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator between parts. I'd like to do a separator between each 1000 slides. I have two dictionaries and a thesaurus here that show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to "flow" with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Any ideas? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC kristina.ricks at verizon.net
ANN: HTML to FrameMaker Case Study
Hello Framers, I have long used FrameScript and MSXML to import XML into unstructured FrameMaker files. MSXML is great because it uses standard XML technologies such as XPath and XSLT to access and manipulate XML files. FrameScript can "drive" MSXML using its EActiveXObject object. There have been several instances where I wanted to import HTML files into FrameMaker, but it wasn't possible with MSXML because it requires well-formed XML. In some cases, it wasn't feasible or practical to convert the HTML to well-formed XML. During a recent project, I discovered a simple workaround to the HTML problem. I used regular expressions to extract the necessary section from the HTML document and convert it to a well-formed XML document. Then I used my usual MSXML process to import the data into FrameMaker. I have outlined the process in a small case study. You can see the PDF here http://www.frameexpert.com/demos/htmltoframe.pdf If you have any need for HTML to FrameMaker conversions, please let me know. We can explore if it is feasible using FrameScript and MSXML. If your data is non-proprietary and you would like to participate in a more detailed case study, please let me know. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com
Missing some bookmarks in PDF
Hi all- We're using FM 7.2p158 unstructured, on Windows XP Pro 2002 SP-2. One of my colleagues is producing several books for an upcoming release. Last week, he came to me for help with one of them -- seems that not all the bookmarks generated properly. The books (and therefore the bookmarks) are very simple -- cover page, generated TOC, up to a dozen or so chapters and maybe an Appendix or two. The bookmarks are supposed to include the TOC and the Chapter Titles (with Chapter Numbers). What he was supposed to see in the bookmarks panel in his PDF: Table of Contents Chapter 1 Introduction Chapter 2 Before you Begin Chapter 3 Whatever the Title is for Chapter 3 Chapter 4 ... What he got: Table of Contents Chapter 3 Whatever the Title is for Chapter 3 Chapter 4 ... I think we've seen this before, but I can't remember what the cause was, or even if we found one. I fiddled around with the source files to make sure he hadn't used any paragraph format overrides that would exclude the first two chapters from the book, and they were clean. I generated the PS file from my machine, using my Distiller settings (we don't necessarily use the same drivers/settings) and got the same results. So I poked around some more, didn't see anything out of place, and regenerated everything again. All is well. I sent him the source files, he regenerated the PDF on his machine and all is hunky-dory. We shrugged it off, thinking it was an anomaly, but just now he got similar results with a different book he's producing (except this time, Chapters 1-4 are missing, instead of only 1 and 2). Has anyone else seen this, or have any ideas as to why this would be happening? Lin
Dictionary style layout in Frame
If it was me, I'd use that as the "chapter name" tag and have that start each of the chapters/files in the book. In the paragraph designer: * On the Basic Tab, set alignment to Center. * Pick a big point size for the letter. * On the Pagination tab, activate the checkbox to "run across all columns." * On the Numbering tab, set to Autonumber with the <$chapnum> variable. * On the Advanced tab, set Frame Below to Single Line. Or Double Line if you're in a risk-taking mood. In your book file, highlight all the files and set Chapter Numbering to upper case letters. Cheers, Art On 10/5/07, Tina Ricks wrote: > Hello Framers, > > > > I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the end, which > includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially numbered PowerPoint slides > (yes, that's 12,000, it will be several hundred pages). I'd like to do a > dictionary style layout. > > I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of each page like > a dictionary, showing the first and last entry on each page. Works great. > > What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator between parts. I'd > like to do a separator between each 1000 slides. I have two dictionaries and > a thesaurus here that show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for > example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big > letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, > because the separator needs to "flow" with the text. Does that make any > sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But > it needs to go across two columns. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Tina Ricks > > Editor > > Trial Guides, LLC > > kristina.ricks at verizon.net -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Tina Ricks wrote: > When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for > example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big > letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, > because the separator needs to "flow" with the text. Does that make any > sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But > it needs to go across two columns. Art's method is going to work great if you want each letter to start a new page, but I think what you want is for text to flow from the top of the left column down to the middle of the left column, jump to the top of the right column down to the middle of the right column, back to the left column in the middle, span both columns with a letter break, then continue with text in the left column under the break filling the remainder of the left and right columns. The only way I know to do this in Frame is by using two text frames, one for the top two columns, and a second one for the letter break and the bottom two columns. Since the letter break is not likely to end up in the same vertical position for every letter, this is not something you could accomplish with one master page, although you could certainly do it with 26 (one for each letter). But I'm not sure of the benefit of making 26 master pages, each of which would have to be adjusted every time the text reflowed. Probably just as easy and maintainable to use one master page with two text boxes and adjust each usage of that page locally. If you have any control over the design, starting each letter on a new page and following Art's instructions will make life a lot simpler. Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Hello Framers, I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart quotes as regular quotes? Thanks, Theresa de Valence P.S. I am running Frame 7.2b.
partial page graphic lines won't print - RESEND
Hello framers, I sent this email to the framers list on Wednesday and only received one response. Does anybody have any other suggestions on how I might get the lines in my partial page graphic to print? I'm working with Frame 7.0 in a structured document. I have two graphics in the document. The first is a single-sheet, half-page graphic, followed by a four-sheet graphic. The first three sheets (of the four-sheet graphic) are full-page graphics, the fourth sheet is a half-page graphic. It is this fourth sheet that I'm having the problems with. All the graphics (cgm's) are imported by reference into anchored frames. The three full-page graphics print fine (both hard copy and pdf), but when I print the fourth sheet (partial page graphic), only the text that's in the graphic gets printed; the lines in the graphic do not print. Here are some of the things I've tried: I deleted the fourth sheet graphic from the anchored frame, and imported the half-page graphic from the first illustration in the document; both text and lines printed fine. I deleted the half-page graphic from the first illustration and imported the fourth sheet partial-page graphic; both text and lines printed fine. I deleted the Fsheet element, the Image element and re-inserted the into the document. I've re-exported the cgm from the IsoDraw program that I used to create the graphic; I opened the cgm in IsoDraw and re-exported that as a cgm; I opened the .iso file of the first illustration graphic, saved it as a separate document, inserted the lines and text from the problem graphic, exported that as cgm, imported into Frame document and tried to print that, all to no avail. But all that pales in comparison to this: When I put the problem graphic in it's assigned place in the document and then select the anchored frame and drag the bottom line of the frame to make the frame full-page, with the title and figure number lines as the last two lines of text on the page, the graphic prints (hardcopy and pdf) just fine. If I then change the depth of the frame to allow any text at all on the page, the lines in the graphic won't print, but the text in the graphic does print. I've also compared the object properties of the problem frame/graphic with the others in the document, and I can't see any difference in the properties. If anyone has any helpful suggestions, I'd be grateful for any assistance. Jeffrey Casher
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Ken, I think the tag method would work with flowing text, too, but I wouldn't want to see the size of a single file after you imported 12,000 slides. It'd take a while to do much. Like to move from page to page... That's why I prefaced my message with "I would." ... break it into 26 files. ;- ) Art On 10/5/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote: > Tina Ricks wrote: > > > When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for > > example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big > > letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, > > because the separator needs to "flow" with the text. Does that make any > > sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But > > it needs to go across two columns. > > > Art's method is going to work great if you want each letter to start a > new page, but I think what you want is for text to flow from the top of > the left column down to the middle of the left column, jump to the top > of the right column down to the middle of the right column, back to the > left column in the middle, span both columns with a letter break, then > continue with text in the left column under the break filling the > remainder of the left and right columns. > > The only way I know to do this in Frame is by using two text frames, one > for the top two columns, and a second one for the letter break and the > bottom two columns. Since the letter break is not likely to end up in > the same vertical position for every letter, this is not something you > could accomplish with one master page, although you could certainly do > it with 26 (one for each letter). But I'm not sure of the benefit of > making 26 master pages, each of which would have to be adjusted every > time the text reflowed. Probably just as easy and maintainable to use > one master page with two text boxes and adjust each usage of that page > locally. > > If you have any control over the design, starting each letter on a new > page and following Art's instructions will make life a lot simpler. > > Kenneth Benson > Pegasus Type, Inc. > www.pegtype.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Theresa de Valence wrote: > Hello Framers, > > I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about > smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart > quotes as regular quotes? > Theresa, In the Find dialog box, search for \` and replace with \g and search for \' and replace with \g The backslash plus grave accent finds smart left quotes, and the backslash plus apostrophe finds smart right quotes. The backslash g is a non-smart (stupid?) regular double quote. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.")
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Art Campbell wrote: > I think the tag method would work with flowing text, too, but I > wouldn't want to see the size of a single file after you imported > 12,000 slides. It'd take a while to do much. Like to move from page to > page... You're right, Art, straddle heads can interrupt a 2-column page quite neatly with only one frame. I should have tested this first. I hadn't even begun to think about the 12,000 slides. Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Tina Ricks wrote: > I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the > end, which includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially > numbered PowerPoint slides (yes, that's 12,000, it will be > several hundred pages). I'd like to do a dictionary style layout. > > I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of > each page like a dictionary, showing the first and last entry > on each page. Works great. > > What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator > between parts. I'd like to do a separator between each 1000 > slides. I have two dictionaries and a thesaurus here that > show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for > example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns > and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't > do this with master pages, because the separator needs to > "flow" with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was > Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it > needs to go across two columns. I'm confused. Are you arbitrarily going to put a separator every 1000 slides? Why? What purpose would that serve? Or are you going to separate alphabetically by title or whatever, like the dictionary example you cite? Either way, I'd share Art and Kenneth's concern about putting all 12,000 in one file, so you may want to consider some plan -- arbitrary, alpha, or ... -- for dividing this monster up into multiple FM files. That said, I believe you should be able to do the horizontal separators you describe with little trouble (admittedly, I'm speculating; I rarely use multiple columns and never with the kind of separator you envision). Presumably, all the pgf tags used for the slide text have Pagination Format set to In Column. To hold your separator letters/headings/whatever, you need a pgf format with Pagination Format set to Across All Columns. Wherever you insert it into the flow, the entries preceding it will flow across both columns above it, and the entries that follow will flow across both columns below it. If you want a ruling line or some graphic above the letter/heading/whatever pgf, use the Frame Above Pgf setting (Advanced tab) to specify a graphic frame that you've created on a ref page and put the appropriate line/whatever into. See the manual or help regarding the frame above setting. HTH, and happy weekend! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Oops! \g produces: "Last night instead of "Last night Ideas? Thanks, Theresa Theresa de Valence wrote: > Hello Framers, > > I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about > smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart > quotes as regular quotes? And Stuart Rogers wrote: >In the Find dialog box, search for \` and replace with \g >and search for \' and replace with \g
Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Sorry! The characters did not survive the post to the list. \g produces a character which _looks like_ two commas. Any idea what it is? Any idea how I get Frame to replace with what the post to the List achieved? Thanks. From: Theresa de Valence Oops! \g produces: "Last night instead of "Last night Ideas? Theresa de Valence wrote: > Hello Framers, > > I need to paste my portions of a book into Access which is unhappy about > smart quotes. Could anyone tell me how to search/replace those smart > quotes as regular quotes? And Stuart Rogers wrote: >In the Find dialog box, search for \` and replace with \g >and search for \' and replace with \g
Find and change smart quotes for regular quotes
Theresa de Valence wrote: > Sorry! The characters did not survive the post to the list. > \g produces a character which _looks like_ two commas. > Any idea what it is? Any idea how I get Frame to replace with what the > post to the List achieved? > Thanks. > > From: Theresa de Valence > Oops! > \g produces: > "Last night instead of "Last night > Ideas? > Sorry, my bad; I was going by memory. It sounds like you're finding the smart quotes ok, it's just the replacement that isn't working. Well, instead of \g, first turn off Smart Quotes in the FM doc, and then type a double-quote somewhere, copy it, and paste it into the replace with box. I think... I'm not in FM right now and don't have time to test. HTH -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "On the contrary." -- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little better.")
