What happened to text format of page numbering?

2011-07-22 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
In FM 7.2 and earlier, one of the options for page numbering was Text. I
see that in FM10, and seemingly FM9 too, this option is no longer available.
This was a feature I used to some extent, and I wonder why it was deleted.
Or is there any way around it to, e.g. get a blank in the TOC?

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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Re: What happened to text format of page numbering?

2011-07-22 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Thanks for the info, Fred.

They have added section and subsection numbering (greyed out in my present
legacy 7.2 documents), which is a valuable improvement. Text is still
available for Chapter but not for page numbers. I cannot find anything
helpful about this in the help files. Guess I just have to do some changes
in the document.

Bodvar


2011/7/22 Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com

  FWIW, Text is still an option in FrameMaker 8.0p236.

 It's hard to imagine that Adobe made this capability go away, since that
 would break any kind of backwards compatibility.

 -FR

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 In FM 7.2 and earlier, one of the options for page numbering was Text. I
 see that in FM10, and seemingly FM9 too, this option is no longer available.
 This was a feature I used to some extent, and I wonder why it was deleted.
 Or is there any way around it to, e.g. get a blank in the TOC?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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 difficult and not tried.
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Re: unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-22 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 21/07/2011 7:36 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:

Hi Stuart,

As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named
TableFootnote on the Reference Pages

You’ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that
space… it doesn’t need to have content but I believe it’ll require a
name of TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of
it, and you can resize that empty frame to space out your text.

I believe John’s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in
my experience, you’ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table
Footnote paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between
 multiparagraph footnotes.

It sounds like one of 2 things happened:

1.Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was
a TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages

2.You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference
Pages



Matt, John, thanks to you both.

I am in the process of creating a new template, and in so doing am 
sticking to a particular naming convention.  One way or another I ended 
up with a new or newly named tag for the table footnotes, and it did not 
have the Frame Above set to anything.  Once you and the other listers 
pointed out the use of Frame Above, I was able to verify its presence in 
FM's default tag, and its absence in my new tag.  Adding it to the 
definition and playing with the height of the frame on the ref. page has 
done the trick.


Thanks again to all who replied,

--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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OT: Follow-up to Does anyone have an old InDesign template folder?

2011-07-22 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Follow-up: Well, the reason I couldn't find anyplace on the entire 
Internet that had a copy of the old InDesign CS4 Template folder is 
because Adobe wouldn't release it. This morning, InDesignSecrets.com 
announced that after a year of wrangling with Adobe, they were 
finally given permission to distribute those templates on their site.

http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-templates

Hope this helps anyone else wanting good FREE InDesign templates.
Carol

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Framers, I'm teaching myself InDesign CS5, and as of version CS4, 
Adobe no longer provides a folder of sample templates. When I taught 
myself Framemaker 200 years ago, I found their well-designed 
templates to be an excellent point of reference and helped me make 
better decisions about the set-up of my personally designed 
templates. If anyone would be willing to share their Template folder 
from an older version of InDesign, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!


Carol

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Re: OT: Follow-up to Does anyone have an old InDesign template folder?

2011-07-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield

Thanks Carol,

Could be useful, especially when both the deadline and imagination are  
running short :)


Alan

On 23/07/2011, at 5:37 AM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:

Follow-up: Well, the reason I couldn't find anyplace on the entire  
Internet that had a copy of the old InDesign CS4 Template folder is  
because Adobe wouldn't release it. This morning, InDesignSecrets.com  
announced that after a year of wrangling with Adobe, they were  
finally given permission to distribute those templates on their site.

http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-templates

Hope this helps anyone else wanting good FREE InDesign templates.
Carol

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Framers, I'm teaching myself InDesign CS5, and as of version CS4,  
Adobe no longer provides a folder of sample templates. When I taught  
myself Framemaker 200 years ago, I found their well-designed  
templates to be an excellent point of reference and helped me make  
better decisions about the set-up of my personally designed  
templates. If anyone would be willing to share their Template folder  
from an older version of InDesign, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!


Carol



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A footnote problem in PDF Bookmark and FM TOC

2011-07-22 Thread Brian Chan
Hi All:

Frame 9 running on XP.

I have a section titled Basic Windows* Terminology where the * (asterisk) is 
a footnote. 

In the PDF bookmark, only Basic Windows appears. The asterisk and the word 
Terminology disappear.

And in the TOC, the asterisk is missing. It only says Basic Windows 
Terminology.

What is causing this problem? Can this be fixed? Thanks.

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unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-22 Thread John Pitt
Stuart,

You should be able to control the space above by adding a Frame Above 
Pgf on the Advanced tab of Para Designer.

My templates include a TableFootnote option in the dropdown, but if that 
option is not already available you can build one on the Reference pages.

jjj

On 22/07/2011 3:00 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> TCS 2.0 FM 9.0p255 WinXP SP3
>
> I'm trying to set up a table format in a new template.  I've added a
> sample footnote in a cell, and the footnote text appears below the
> table.  However, the text appears with no space between it and the
> bottom rule of the table -- in fact, the rule touches the tops of the
> letters in the footnote text.
>
> I've tried increasing the Space Above in the table-footnote pgf tag;
> doing so causes the*following*  paragraph to move down, but has no
> effect on the footnote text.
>
> I've tried increasing the Space Below in the Table Designer; same result.
>
> I've tried increasing the Space Below in the table title pgf tag, the
> table anchor pgf tag, and in a cell in the bottom table row; no effect.
>
> The User Guide and the Help don't address footnote spacing per se, as
> far as I can tell.
>
> Any suggestions on how to control this spacing?
>
> thanks,

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FM10 Para Designer shortcuts

2011-07-22 Thread Mark Lehmann
Anyone know keyboard shortcuts that will home-in on particular tabs in 
the FrameMaker 10 Paragraph Designer?
(I'm trying to setup macros to access particular fields, and FM10 isn't 
as cooperative as FM7.)

Cheers
Mark Lehmann



What happened to "text" format of page numbering?

2011-07-22 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
In FM 7.2 and earlier, one of the options for page numbering was "Text". I
see that in FM10, and seemingly FM9 too, this option is no longer available.
This was a feature I used to some extent, and I wonder why it was deleted.
Or is there any way around it to, e.g. get a blank in the TOC?

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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difficult and not tried.
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What happened to "text" format of page numbering?

2011-07-22 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Thanks for the info, Fred.

They have added section and subsection numbering (greyed out in my present
legacy 7.2 documents), which is a valuable improvement. Text is still
available for Chapter but not for page numbers. I cannot find anything
helpful about this in the help files. Guess I just have to do some changes
in the document.

Bodvar


2011/7/22 Fred Ridder 

>  FWIW, "Text" is still an option in FrameMaker 8.0p236.
>
> It's hard to imagine that Adobe made this capability go away, since that
> would break any kind of backwards compatibility.
>
> -FR
>
>  --
> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:54:18 +
> Subject: What happened to "text" format of page numbering?
> From: bodvar at gmail.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
>
> In FM 7.2 and earlier, one of the options for page numbering was "Text". I
> see that in FM10, and seemingly FM9 too, this option is no longer available.
> This was a feature I used to some extent, and I wonder why it was deleted.
> Or is there any way around it to, e.g. get a blank in the TOC?
>
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
> --
>  Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found
> difficult and not tried.
>  -- Gilbert K. Chesterton
>
>
>
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unable to position table footnote pgf

2011-07-22 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 21/07/2011 7:36 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
>
> As John mentioned, your problem is that you have no frame named
> TableFootnote on the Reference Pages
>
> You?ll need to add a frame to the reference page to control that
> space? it doesn?t need to have content but I believe it?ll require a
> name of TableFootnote, as John mentioned. That should be the end of
> it, and you can resize that empty frame to space out your text.
>
> I believe John?s solution is 1 step farther than you need to go...in
> my experience, you?ll not need to apply a Frame Above to the Table
> Footnote paragraph tag. To do so would add the frame again in between
>  multiparagraph footnotes.
>
> It sounds like one of 2 things happened:
>
> 1.Your template file began its life with FM 6 or so, before there was
> a TableFootnote frame on the Ref Pages
>
> 2.You accidentally deleted the TableFootnote frame on the Reference
> Pages
>

Matt, John, thanks to you both.

I am in the process of creating a new template, and in so doing am 
sticking to a particular naming convention.  One way or another I ended 
up with a new or newly named tag for the table footnotes, and it did not 
have the Frame Above set to anything.  Once you and the other listers 
pointed out the use of Frame Above, I was able to verify its presence in 
FM's default tag, and its absence in my new tag.  Adding it to the 
definition and playing with the height of the frame on the ref. page has 
done the trick.

Thanks again to all who replied,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com


OT: Follow-up to "Does anyone have an old InDesign template folder?"

2011-07-22 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Follow-up: Well, the reason I couldn't find anyplace on the entire 
Internet that had a copy of the old InDesign CS4 Template folder is 
because Adobe wouldn't release it. This morning, InDesignSecrets.com 
announced that after a year of wrangling with Adobe, they were 
finally given permission to distribute those templates on their site.
http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-templates

Hope this helps anyone else wanting good FREE InDesign templates.
Carol

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On 7/7/2011 Carol Elkins wrote:
Framers, I'm teaching myself InDesign CS5, and as of version CS4, 
Adobe no longer provides a folder of sample templates. When I taught 
myself Framemaker 200 years ago, I found their well-designed 
templates to be an excellent point of reference and helped me make 
better decisions about the set-up of my personally designed 
templates. If anyone would be willing to share their Template folder 
from an older version of InDesign, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

Carol

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Making Information Understandable
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mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
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A footnote problem in PDF Bookmark and FM TOC

2011-07-22 Thread Brian Chan
Hi All:

Frame 9 running on XP.

I have a section titled "Basic Windows* Terminology" where the * (asterisk) is 
a footnote. 

In the PDF bookmark, only "Basic Windows" appears. The asterisk and the word 
"Terminology" disappear.

And in the TOC, the asterisk is missing. It only says "Basic Windows 
Terminology."

What is causing this problem? Can this be fixed? Thanks.

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