Fastest way to find an element in an EDD
Hi EDD developers Suppose you want to find an element with a specific name quickly in an EDD, what would be the fastest way? For example, I want to find an element named keyword in an EDD to specify its formatting rules. So, I need to find the following: [Element][Tag] Element (Container):keyword[/Tag] I do not want to search for text: keyword, because keyword is a child element of many other elements, so I would find the text keyword in the [GeneralRule] element of many other elements. I can search for an element tag: Tag, but I cannot search for an element tag: Tag which has the text keyword. So, what do you do to find this element quickly? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
script or utility to make page count a multiple of four
Hi, anyone knows of an existing (extend)script or utility that checks the nr of pages in a book and adds extra pages to make the page count a multiple of four? Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Wim Hooghwinkel ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Incorrect font size when inline elements are used
Hi group I'm using FrameMaker 11 with DITA-FMx 1.1.18c to generate FrameMaker files from DITA maps. Sometimes, when inline elements are used, the font size is incorrect in the generated Fm files. Some examples: - The default font size of list items (paratag ul.bullet) is 9 pt. If two keywords are used in this list item, however, the (regular) text between these two keywords is 10 pt instead of 9 pt. The same happens when the ph element is used: the text after the ph element is also 10 pt instead of 9. - The default font size of text in a table cell is 8 pt. If a keyword is used in a list item in a table cell, however, the font size is 10 pt instead of 8. And if a uicontrol element is used in a table cell, the font size is 9 pt instead of 8. I checked the EDD: - The uicontrol element uses the ui.control character format, so I think/hope this can easily be fixed, just by not specifying the font size for this character format in the character designer. - The ph and keyword elements have TextRangeFormatting TextRange in all contexts, but I don't have any idea how we can fix this problem. I think I have seen similar posts about this problem earlier, so I think it must be a FrameMaker bug. Any suggestions? -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fastest way to find an element in an EDD
Yves I've found the simplest way is to export the EDD from the template. The elements are then listed in alphabetical order - no sections and no comments - so you can more easily locate the element. I've experienced the same results with Find as yourself. Best regards --Paul Wilbraham Paul Wilbraham Senior Consultant Trainer M-AIS T: 0131 226 5893 M: 07928 797 281 On 27 February 2014 10:26, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi EDD developers Suppose you want to find an element with a specific name quickly in an EDD, what would be the fastest way? For example, I want to find an element named keyword in an EDD to specify its formatting rules. So, I need to find the following: [Element][Tag] Element (Container):keyword[/Tag] I do not want to search for text: keyword, because keyword is a child element of many other elements, so I would find the text keyword in the [GeneralRule] element of many other elements. I can search for an element tag: Tag, but I cannot search for an element tag: Tag which has the text keyword. So, what do you do to find this element quickly? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as paul.wilbra...@m-ais.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/paul.wilbraham%40m-ais.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fastest way to find an element in an EDD
Hi Yves, I would suggest that you take a look at FrameSLT from West Street Consulting. It allows you to search a structured FrameMaker document using XPath. It has many other features as well, including a scripting environment for modifying elements and attributes. Also, it can be driven from FrameScript, ExtendScript, and the FDK so you can quickly find element/attribute combinations in your scripts. I have used it in over 300 of my scripts. I highly recommend it. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:26 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Fastest way to find an element in an EDD Hi EDD developers Suppose you want to find an element with a specific name quickly in an EDD, what would be the fastest way? For example, I want to find an element named keyword in an EDD to specify its formatting rules. So, I need to find the following: [Element][Tag] Element (Container):keyword[/Tag] I do not want to search for text: keyword, because keyword is a child element of many other elements, so I would find the text keyword in the [GeneralRule] element of many other elements. I can search for an element tag: Tag, but I cannot search for an element tag: Tag which has the text keyword. So, what do you do to find this element quickly? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: script or utility to make page count a multiple of four
We use one to make the page count even - adds or removes a Notes page before the back cover. I'm not sure if it can be modified to add more. I'll take a look later --- Peter On 2014-02-27 11:03, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote: Hi, anyone knows of an existing (extend)script or utility that checks the nr of pages in a book and adds extra pages to make the page count a multiple of four? Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Wim Hooghwinkel ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as pe...@galley.ie. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40galley.ie Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Alan Salo wrote: My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support group to use. Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do; our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File... Save As Other... Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word doc. Even the tables stay tidy. We're on Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise, FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro XI. This approach did not work for me unfortunately when I was converting a FrameMaker documents to Word for one of our guys. (Same platform, versions, etc.) The Acrobat output in Word form was barely usable ... I spent quite a bit of time with manual edits. I also tried to use PDF Converter (to bring the PDF into Word) and it actually worked better for the text, but missed some critical items (I forget what the problem was), so I ended up not using it. For another project, I ended up using MIF2Go that I had purchased in the interim, and it was _much_ better ... _far_ less manual fixing afterwards. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
Hi everyone, I'm Veronica Kutt, with Front Runner Training, a div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions Inc., we're working with a software vendor, Infoware Canada Inc., specializing in MS Office automation solutions. Yes, there is a Word add-in tool that will help speed up the cleanup process. Word Renovation Tools, by Infoware. Reconstruct Word Documents Quickly and Safely Word Renovation Tools (WRT) Turn legacy or problem Word documents into clean, safe documents free from meta-data and document history. If your issues are caused by problems with numbering, direct formatting or documents with a lot of history, WRT has the tools to help. Here is a link to view the information sheet for the WRT tool, http://www.front-runner.com/software/SoftwareDetail.php?sid=7 Feel free to call or email to discuss or to arrange a demo. Thank you, Warm Regards, Veronica Kutt President Front Runner Training, a div. of Front Runner Publishing Solutions Inc. (Local) 416-515-0155 (Toll Free) 1-877-999-0155 Follow me on https://twitter.com/@Veronica_FR Connect with me on LinkedIn ca.linkedin.com/in/veronicakutt -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: February-27-14 9:37 AM To: Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1); Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods? Alan Salo wrote: My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support group to use. Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do; our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File... Save As Other... Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word doc. Even the tables stay tidy. We're on Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise, FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro XI. This approach did not work for me unfortunately when I was converting a FrameMaker documents to Word for one of our guys. (Same platform, versions, etc.) The Acrobat output in Word form was barely usable ... I spent quite a bit of time with manual edits. I also tried to use PDF Converter (to bring the PDF into Word) and it actually worked better for the text, but missed some critical items (I forget what the problem was), so I ended up not using it. For another project, I ended up using MIF2Go that I had purchased in the interim, and it was _much_ better ... _far_ less manual fixing afterwards. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as veron...@front-runner.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/veronica%40front-runner. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
IXgen 7-10 Verified with FM12
Friends - We've gotten a number of queries regarding IXgen 7-10 with FM12. I hope we were able to personally reply to all who asked but just in case we missed anyone, this is a quick note to let you know all is well with IXgen 7-10 and FM12. If you're currently running IXgen 7-10 with FM10 or FM11, you'll be able to migrate IXgen to FM12 with no problems; no upgrade required. If you're running IXgen 7.2 with FM 9 or earlier FM versions and want to move to FM12, you will need to upgrade IXgen. (Contact us for upgrade information.) If you've not heard of IXgen, it's a handy collection of tools that make working with FM markers for indexing purposes much, much easier. Visit our antique website at the URL below for more information. We can even supply a fully-functional demo. Finally, a heartfelt thank you to all our users who have continued to use IXgen, now in its 20th year of release. (20 years? Where did two decades go?! w) Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r) *** IXGEN 7-10 for FrameMaker 10/11/12 IS HERE! *** fra...@fsatools.com mailto:fra...@fsatools.com USA Voice: 435-275-8981 http://www.fsatools.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Incorrect font size when inline elements are used
Hi Yves... This is a core FM bug, and seems to be very elusive. In general it seems like you can fix it by selecting the container block element (like the li), then click the li element in the Element Catalog and choose Change. In DITA-FMx 2.0 I've added an option which adds a pass to the book-build process to perform this retagging. DITA-FMx 2.0 is in beta right now, so if you'd like to experiment with this just let me know. This affects all types of structured FM output, not just DITA or DITA-FMx, and it's not terribly consistent. It seems to happen in paragraphs that have two or more inline elements. If this fix I've added to DITA-FMx seems to really work, I will probably create this into a stand-along plugin that can be used in other situations as well. Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 On 2/27/14 3:06 AM, Yves Barbion wrote: Hi group I'm using FrameMaker 11 with DITA-FMx 1.1.18c to generate FrameMaker files from DITA maps. Sometimes, when inline elements are used, the font size is incorrect in the generated Fm files. Some examples: * The default font size of list items (paratag ul.bullet) is 9 pt. If two keywords are used in this list item, however, the (regular) text between these two keywords is 10 pt instead of 9 pt. The same happens when the ph element is used: the text after the ph element is also 10 pt instead of 9. * The default font size of text in a table cell is 8 pt. If a keyword is used in a list item in a table cell, however, the font size is 10 pt instead of 8. And if a uicontrol element is used in a table cell, the font size is 9 pt instead of 8. I checked the EDD: * The uicontrol element uses the ui.control character format, so I think/hope this can easily be fixed, just by not specifying the font size for this character format in the character designer. * The ph and keyword elements have TextRangeFormatting TextRange in all contexts, but I don't have any idea how we can fix this problem. I think I have seen similar posts about this problem earlier, so I think it must be a FrameMaker bug. Any suggestions? -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
I have to convert a PDF to Word occasionally but I never convert with Acrobat. I use BCL easy Converter (I think it cost $20). The output to an RTF is way better than what I can get from a PDF to Word via Acrobat. But it's still not great. If the output was for my use, I'd have to protest loudly to try for a better option - or call in sick whenever it was necessary ;-))) Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 6:37 AM To: Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1); Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods? Alan Salo wrote: My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support group to use. Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do; our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File... Save As Other... Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word doc. Even the tables stay tidy. We're on Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise, FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro XI. This approach did not work for me unfortunately when I was converting a FrameMaker documents to Word for one of our guys. (Same platform, versions, etc.) The Acrobat output in Word form was barely usable ... I spent quite a bit of time with manual edits. I also tried to use PDF Converter (to bring the PDF into Word) and it actually worked better for the text, but missed some critical items (I forget what the problem was), so I ended up not using it. For another project, I ended up using MIF2Go that I had purchased in the interim, and it was _much_ better ... _far_ less manual fixing afterwards. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Fastest way to find an element in an EDD
Hi Yves, I have found the best way is to use the tools that FrameMaker provides. I generate an APL, that’s an Alphabetical List of Elements and Paragraphs. I include the Tag element and generate the file with hypertext links checked. After that I change the layout of the generated file’s main flow so that it has perhaps 4 or 5 columns. Then lock the file to make the links active with just one click. This makes navigation around the EDD really simple. Ian PROUDFOOT Technical Director ANTÉA http://www.antea.fr/ www.antea.fr From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: 27 February 2014 10:26 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Fastest way to find an element in an EDD Hi EDD developers Suppose you want to find an element with a specific name quickly in an EDD, what would be the fastest way? For example, I want to find an element named keyword in an EDD to specify its formatting rules. So, I need to find the following: [Element][Tag] Element (Container):keyword[/Tag] I do not want to search for text: keyword, because keyword is a child element of many other elements, so I would find the text keyword in the [GeneralRule] element of many other elements. I can search for an element tag: Tag, but I cannot search for an element tag: Tag which has the text keyword. So, what do you do to find this element quickly? Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods?
I initially tried that method, as the formatting results are wonderful when you get to Word, considerably better than the direct RTF export. However, in going that route all index markers are lost (whereas when you export to RTF from Frame they are retained). Any solution that deletes the index markers is a nonstarter for us. Thanks. -Dan -Original Message- From: Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1) [mailto:as...@ariens.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:17 AM To: Harding, Dan; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods? Hi everyone. First post. My team converts our material to Word frequently for our Product Support group to use. Our trick is to create a pdf of the Frame document (as we normally do; our preferred delivery). We then use Acrobat's File... Save As Other... Microsoft Word... to create a .docx Word doc. Even the tables stay tidy. We're on Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise, FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat Pro XI. Thanks, Alan -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Round-trip revisions via MS Word. Alternate methods? Good morning, We have used the same authoring process for eons: Authors/editors work in MS Word, as well as preliminary indexing work. I then take the MS Word file, import into FM (unstructured) and do the final print-ready formatting, making things adhere to our publishing standards and tightening up consistency. As a process it work well... until it's time to revise the book for the next edition. Our authors and editors will ONLY work in MS Word. PDF comments/revisions will not work, as there frequently are extensive revisions including insertion of new sections (multiple pages) of content, as well as shuffling of content. When I export the final FM version back to MS Word for them to work on, the conversion is VERY crude and frequently requires extensive work on the post-conversion Word files for the editors to be able to work within the files. Then of course there's the reformatting from scratch in FM when the revisions are done (which actually is faster and more reliable than trying to reconcile changes in the MS Word version with the existing FM version). Is there a better way to perform the round-trip process given the MS Word requirement, and barring that, are there better ways/tools to get cleaner MS Word files from FM than exporting to RTF? Would making the change from unstructured to structured FM on my part help in this regard? Environment: Windows 7 64-bit Enterprise Framemaker 10 (unstructured) [NOTE: TCS 5 is on order but I have not received it yet.] Microsoft Office 2010 Thank you in advance. Dan Harding University of Illinois Tax School ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as as...@ariens.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/asalo%40ariens.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Any one have a recommendation for a good document management system? Thanks, Gillian ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
