RE: FrameMaker 12 Cloud

2014-05-22 Thread John Sgammato
That is so, I clarified that today with the guys at the Adobe booth at the
STC14 Summit.
On May 20, 2014 8:53 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I assume, and maybe Max can enlighten us further, that any updates (or
 upgrades) can be triggered or refused as desired by the user (or the users
 administrator). That's the way it works with Adobe Creative Cloud at any
 rate. So I think the Really Bad Thing scenario is unlikely.

 Craig

  This is often touted as an advantage of cloud-based services, but is in
 fact a Really Bad Thing, as it can invalidate an organization's substantial
 investment in training and expertise by changing user interfaces and
 capabilities without warning - not to mention, er..., causing disruption to
 productivity (modesty forbids me from putting this more strongly, although
 I'd like to).
 



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RE: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format?

2014-05-22 Thread Heiko Haida
 

Hi Stephen, 

well, I have been working for translation companies for more than 15
years (DTP). There are two ways to handle this: 

a) mif files are supplied for translation, mif files are returned (no
dtp involved). This is best if you can handle all dtp yourself.
It is necessary to know which mif version (which FM version) is used,
that is most important. 

b) Frame files are supplied and a dtp step is involved for preparation. 
In this case, it is preferable to have all details about the layout and
design rules communicated. Fonts should be supplied, graphics should be
supplied (they might also contain text btw). 
If you want to get the translations back fully layouted (or get PDFs
ready to publish), you should make sure that your source files are
accurate in the way the layouts are set and formats and typography are
used, so that no one has to guess what was originally intended. 

As you can see, b) may need a lot of communication, preparation and data
transfer in both directions. It may of course be useful, but it only
makes sense if there is a certain (recurring) amount of text to be
translated, or if languages are involved where you can not provide the
proper typesetting yourself. 

Regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Craig, Alison: 

 Stephen: 
 
 For the past 8 years, I've managed a significant number of translation 
 projects and I've never heard of the customer having to provide MIF files to 
 a translation bureau. 
 
 Are they also returning the files to you in MIF format? If so, this means the 
 translation bureau has not opened and tested the finished Frame files - an 
 important step in a properly run translation project. 
 
 Can I ask who your translation bureau is? I can recommend a couple that do 
 excellent work and are very competitive on pricing. 
 
 Alison 
 
 ALISON CRAIG | TECHNICAL DOCUMENTATION LEAD 
 
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 SUBJECT: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format? 
 
 Hi, 
 
 (FM9, Windows 7) 
 
 I have a book of 40 files, graphics imported by reference; no text insets. 
 
 The translation company want me to provide files in MIF format. I am 
 surprised that Trados does not accept the files in .FM format. Is this 
 normal? 
 
 I have never created MIF files before. At least, it seems like a long manual 
 process. Is there a plug-in that does a complete book? I imagine the graphic 
 files remain linked by reference. 
 
 Any comments are much appreciated. BTW, we plan to upgrade to FM 12 very 
 soon. Would that help (not have to convert to MIF?). 
 
 Have a good day, 
 
 STEPHEN O'BRIEN
 Coordonnateur à la documentation et rédacteur technique senior | 
 Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer
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2014-05-22 Thread STEPHENSON pascale
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Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Theresa de Valence

On 5/21/2014 6:56 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rjauact=
8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2
FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBgusg=A
FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg


This link is not resolving, Rick. Could you tell me the name of the 
publication and maybe I can look it up?


Thanks,
Theresa
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Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
FM12 really uses conversion tables rather than RoboHelp style mapping?

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 Hi Theresa,

 Download this publication:

 http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rjauact=
 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2
 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBgusg=A
 FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg

 and look at chapter 4. It tells you how to create conversion tables to add
 structure to unstructured content. Please let me know if you have any
 questions or comments. Thank you very much.

 Rick

 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc.
 585-366-4017
 r...@frameexpert.com



 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de
 Valence
 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:32 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

 Hi Framers,

 I'm trying out my new Frame 12 by trying to produce an ebook in several
 formats. I'm using the out-of-copyright Agatha Christie's A MYSTERIOUS
 AFFAIR AT STYLES.

 Is there a fast way to wrap each paragraph with a [Para] tag? I.e. to mark a
 whole chapter of text and then add a Para tag to each paragraph.
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Re: FrameMaker 8 to a Newer Version

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
What kind of XML will you have to produce and what plugins are not working?

FrameMaker doesn't really have templates. You just open an .fm or
.book file in a newer version and it's converted. I've opened FM6 in
FM10 without problems.

We use the word template loosely to mean the character and paragraph
tags, stuff on the Master and Reference pages, etc. (everything that
can be imported other than content).

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, MacDonald, Helen
hmacdon...@ptitechnologies.com wrote:

 It sounds like with the patch I can stay with FM8 and everything should go
 on as usual. Since I haven't yet had to produce XML I do not know how that
 will go. So far I have only had to deliver pdfs.

 My biggest concern is using the Template (created with FM6) with a newer
 version of FM.  I don't understand the relationship between the template and
 the version of software that it was created with. Whether or not this even
 matters? I was under the impression it did matter. Or it matters because the
 plugins do not work.
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Re: FrameMaker 8 to a Newer Version

2014-05-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Oh, I missed that you're using structured FrameMaker. That does have templates.

If the plugins were broken by the switch from FM6 to FM8, post the
names of the plugins. Some might appear in the menu, others you might
identify only by looking in the fminit\plugins directory.

It's possible your company has a custom setup that's not compatible
with FM8 or any later version.
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Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Theresa de Valence

On 5/21/2014 1:26 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote:


Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into
a DITA topic.  Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph
element (also a p)


If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which 
Structured Application to use. If I pick none, an error pops up with 
Unable to validate because no DTD or Schema was specified in the XML 
file but continue? I say yes.


When I open the file, I get this Structure View: (I did this once with 
the paratag as Body and once as Para)


-Root
|--Title
|--Body (Para)
   | A-
   | ID = pgfId-998413
|--Body (Para)
   | A-
   | ID = pgfId-998414
|--Body (Para)
   | A-
   | ID = pgfId-998415

I'm presuming this is correct?


Cntrl-A to copy the entire file

Open  New  Dita file  New topic

The first time (paratag Body), I found the Element marked p and 
clicked Paste Special. I chose Rich Text Format, but all of the text 
appears in the structured view under one single p element.


The second time (paratag Para) I clicked Smart Paste and got this error 
message Smart paste could not convert clipboard data to structured 
content.



What am I doing wrongly?

Thanks.



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RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Rick Quatro
Theresa,

This is not the most effective way of structuring unstructured content. Like
I said in my previous email, you need to use a Conversion Table which is
outlined in Chapter 4 of the manual I referred you to. Contact me offlist
and I will try to walk you through it. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com



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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:42 PM
To: Chris Despopoulos; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

On 5/21/2014 1:26 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote:

 Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it 
 into a DITA topic.  Every P should translate into the correct DITA 
 paragraph element (also a p)

If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which
Structured Application to use. If I pick none, an error pops up with Unable
to validate because no DTD or Schema was specified in the XML file but
continue? I say yes.

When I open the file, I get this Structure View: (I did this once with the
paratag as Body and once as Para)

-Root
|--Title
|--Body (Para)
| A-
| ID = pgfId-998413
|--Body (Para)
| A-
| ID = pgfId-998414
|--Body (Para)
| A-
| ID = pgfId-998415

I'm presuming this is correct?


Cntrl-A to copy the entire file

Open  New  Dita file  New topic

The first time (paratag Body), I found the Element marked p and clicked
Paste Special. I chose Rich Text Format, but all of the text appears in the
structured view under one single p element.

The second time (paratag Para) I clicked Smart Paste and got this error
message Smart paste could not convert clipboard data to structured
content.


What am I doing wrongly?

Thanks.



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Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?

2014-05-22 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first.  Save your 
unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA 
topic.  This is just a quick way to get lots of structure for free.  If you're 
talking about a novel, you should really have nothing but p tags anyway.  You 
should look up Smat Paste in the docs.  It's really an interesting feature.


 Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into
 a DITA topic.  Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph
 element (also a p)

If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which 
Structured Application to use. If I pick none, an error pops up with 
Unable to validate because no DTD or Schema was specified in the XML 
file but continue? I say yes.

When I open the file, I get this Structure View: (I did this once with 
the paratag as Body and once as Para)

-Root
|--Title
|--Body (Para)
    | A-
    | ID = pgfId-998413
|--Body (Para)
    | A-
    | ID = pgfId-998414
|--Body (Para)
    | A-
    | ID = pgfId-998415

I'm presuming this is correct?


Cntrl-A to copy the entire file

Open  New  Dita file  New topic

The first time (paratag Body), I found the Element marked p and 
clicked Paste Special. I chose Rich Text Format, but all of the text 
appears in the structured view under one single p element.

The second time (paratag Para) I clicked Smart Paste and got this error 
message Smart paste could not convert clipboard data to structured 
content.


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Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format?

2014-05-22 Thread Craig, Alison
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