Actually, my experience is a mix Tino?s 2 scenarios. I supply Frame files and receive them back ? then I do all the DTP (in a maximum of 17 languages).
Having the translation bureau start and end with Frame files ensures that any errors in the returned files (technical errors, not translation errors) are the responsibility of the translation bureau. As they know they have working Frame files at the start of the process, they have to take responsibility for returning working Frame files when the job is done. We pay for 3-5 hours DTP for this part of the service ($150 ? $250). As our total job price often runs between $5,000 and $15,000, this is a minuscule price to pay to ensure we have working files. Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com<http://www.analogicultrasound.com> T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Heiko Haida Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:04 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format? Hi Stephen, well, I have been working for translation companies for more than 15 years (DTP). There are two ways to handle this: a) mif files are supplied for translation, mif files are returned (no dtp involved). This is best if you can handle all dtp yourself. It is necessary to know which mif version (which FM version) is used, that is most important. b) Frame files are supplied and a dtp step is involved for preparation. In this case, it is preferable to have all details about the layout and design rules communicated. Fonts should be supplied, graphics should be supplied (they might also contain text btw). If you want to get the translations back fully layouted (or get PDFs ready to publish), you should make sure that your source files are accurate in the way the layouts are set and formats and typography are used, so that no one has to guess what was originally intended. As you can see, b) may need a lot of communication, preparation and data transfer in both directions. It may of course be useful, but it only makes sense if there is a certain (recurring) amount of text to be translated, or if languages are involved where you can not provide the proper typesetting yourself. Regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Craig, Alison: Stephen: For the past 8 years, I?ve managed a significant number of translation projects and I?ve never heard of the customer having to provide MIF files to a translation bureau. Are they also returning the files to you in MIF format? If so, this means the translation bureau has not opened and tested the finished Frame files ? an important step in a properly run translation project. Can I ask who your translation bureau is? I can recommend a couple that do excellent work and are very competitive on pricing. Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com<http://www.analogicultrasound.com> T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:03 AM To: Frame Users (framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>) Subject: Trados and FM9 : Company requests files in MIF format? Hi, (FM9, Windows 7) I have a book of 40 files, graphics imported by reference; no text insets. The translation company want me to provide files in MIF format. I am surprised that Trados does not accept the files in .FM format. Is this normal? I have never created MIF files before. At least, it seems like a long manual process. Is there a plug-in that does a complete book? I imagine the graphic files remain linked by reference. Any comments are much appreciated. BTW, we plan to upgrade to FM 12 very soon. Would that help (not have to convert to MIF?). Have a good day, Stephen O'BRIEN Coordonnateur ? la documentation et r?dacteur technique senior | Documentation Coordinator and Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels | Software sobrien at innovmetric.com<mailto:sobrien at innovmetric.com> T (1) 418.688.2061 F (1) 418.688.3001 [X]<http://www.innovmetric.com/> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT?/CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: Ce message peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels appartenant exclusivement ? InnovMetric Logiciels inc. ou ? ses filiales. 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