RE: Quoted speech

2014-08-05 Thread Davis, David
Yes, I occasionally see this on web-pages too, sometimes even on major 
international newspaper sites.

First thing to do: run the page you're looking at through 
http://validator.w3.org
There's a fair chance the page is incorrectly authored (header declarations are 
wrong) and that's why it isn't working in your browser.
(e.g. the author cut-and-pasted out of Word or something, with some 
Windows-specific encoding, and so the encoding in the file isn't actually what 
the file header is saying it is).
There's also a fair chance that the host's webserver is configured wrongly, and 
*that's* why it's not working properly in your browser (e.g. the encoding the 
web servers says it's using to serve the page isn't what it's actually using).

I doubt, though, that the reason it's not working is because it is not possible 
to use non-ASCII punctuation characters in a web page in the year 2014! Because 
it is :)  I'd advocate people's time would be better spent getting a good 
understanding of internationalisation and Unicode, rather than trying to 
convert their source back to ASCII.

David

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 09:45:28 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Quoted speech
Message-ID:
CAN3Yy4Cbn2_7J_scNUdjWAFHn+ytj9+8C96gVfMuGh=enhj...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Has someone published a modernized set of rules for web-safe fonts
that ensure larger character sets are displayed correctly?

You'd think that by 2014 curly quotes would be safe, but I encountered
missing-glyph icons for some just the other day, on a page where the
character set was UTF-8, using the latest version of Firefox on
Windows 7.

At my last job, one of the single-source targets for some of my docs
was 7-bit ASCII.

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RE: FM Crashed and now it doesn't ask for Application

2014-08-05 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Is this Windows not asking? If so, then your file association has just gotten 
mixed up and assigned to some application (or none if it’s floundering around). 
Use Windows Explorer to reset this.

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Nodland
Sent: August-04-14 7:28 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM Crashed and now it doesn't ask for Application

While changing a font FM crashed. Now it doesn't ask me what application to use 
when I open an XML file.  My XML starts with:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE chapter SYSTEM regs4fm.dtd
?FM document Chapter1.fm?

chapter pageid=air.1 id=air.1 ref=1 xml:space=preserve
title class=chapter masterpage=standard
 . . . .

I had a problem a year ago when my DOCTYPE was !DOCTYPE book . . .
Frame automatically applied the docbook application, so I changed it and my 
root element to chapter or lmbook as applicable.

Does anyone know why it would not ask for the application after a crash?

Ed Nodland

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Re: FM Crashed and now it doesn't ask for Application

2014-08-05 Thread Ed Nodland
Thanks, I have this fixed.  After Frame crashed, it would see the DOCTYPE
chapter in my XML file and use one of the three DocBook application
automatically.  I must have removed the Global applications from Frames
active applications and the crash / restart read them back in.  I could
rename or remove the global structapps file but I just went in and changed
all three occurrences of Chapter to ChapterDisabled.  I don't know why it
automatically picks up on Chapter in a DocBook application and won't pick
up on the one in my custom application, but now the Use Structured
Application windows comes up.

Ed


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote:

  Is this Windows not asking? If so, then your file association has just
 gotten mixed up and assigned to some application (or none if it’s
 floundering around). Use Windows Explorer to reset this.



 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed Nodland
 *Sent:* August-04-14 7:28 PM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* FM Crashed and now it doesn't ask for Application



 While changing a font FM crashed. Now it doesn't ask me what application
 to use when I open an XML file.  My XML starts with:



  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?

 !DOCTYPE chapter SYSTEM regs4fm.dtd

 ?FM document Chapter1.fm?



 chapter pageid=air.1 id=air.1 ref=1 xml:space=preserve

 title class=chapter masterpage=standard

   . . . .



 I had a problem a year ago when my DOCTYPE was !DOCTYPE book . . .

 Frame automatically applied the docbook application, so I changed it and
 my root element to chapter or lmbook as applicable.



 Does anyone know why it would not ask for the application after a crash?



 Ed Nodland



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Re: Interface issues with Frame 12 in Parallels

2014-08-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
I am newly experiencing the joys of v 12 in Parallels, moving from v 7 on Mac 
(irony intentional).
...
2. In a Parallels install of v 12 under Win7, online help is completely 
unusable: everything appears in a single column even if the dialog is widened.

Base machine is a Mac Pro running Mavericks.

Any chance of your team picking this up, Vikram? All graphics are distorted, 
all contents skewed off to the left. If the help window is widened, all text 
collapses into a narrow column about one word wide.

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web-safe fonts characters 2014

2014-08-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
Has anyone seen an authoritative reference for this?

If I'm not writing man pages or working with some legacy CMS or help
authoring tool, I use curved quotes, em and en dashes, and ellipses,
but I can't cite any authority for doing so.

I've yet to succeed in finding a web-safe monofont with a slashed or
dotted zero.
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Re: web-safe fonts characters 2014

2014-08-05 Thread Mike Wickham
I can tell you one font that is NOT Web-safe: Helvetica. I recommend 
that you keep it out of your Web documents. There is a Windows bug that 
causes IE to display Web pages as blank when Helvetica is installed on 
the computer and listed as the first font in a page's CSS. When I was 
unfortunate enough to have problems displaying Web pages, it took me 
quite a while to find the solution online. If you search Google for 
Helvetica blank pages IE, you'll see all kinds of information on it.


Mike Wickham


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