Structured: about containers, other matter and chapter numbering
Hi Framers, thanks for all the help you’ve given me so far. Naturally, I’ve got some more structured Frame questions. To recap: I’m creating a structured book so that I can create one ebook out of two fiction novellas. I am aware that it’s possible to do this in an unstructured world, but I’m not. In order to get the two novellas to display the correct title of the story (novella) on the master page, I understand I’ll need separate books (nested). Let’s say my EDD begins: Element (Container): FrameBook Valid as the highest-level element. To create the child-book, I will need Element (Container): VolumeBook then Element (Container): Chapter then Element (Container): Section As the chapter files are separate files, does the outside container (FrameBook) exist in the chapter files, or, do I list both VolumeBook and Chapter as Valid as the highest-level element? In FrameBook, there will also be Front Matter and Back Matter. Can I use the Section element here or should I create a new element called OtherMatter? One of the novellas has a Prologue. This behaves in most ways like a chapter except that no number is displayed and its leading caption (title) is different, i.e. Prologue, Chapter 1, Chapter 2. In unstructured Frame, I cheated and took a bad shortcut. I copied the master page and took out the autonumber paratag so that Chapter doesn’t show up on the printed page. However, the TOC is not working right, so this is not a good solution. --Do I use paratag Chapter for the prologue and then Format Document Numbering to reset the second instance of Chapter to be =1 ? --Do I remove the word Chapter from the master page? How then do I get the word Chapter to show up on all printed chapters except the Prologue (including the TOC)? --Do I have one element or two in the EDD? Hard to believe but I am progressing. Thanks for your advice, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Structured: about containers, other matter and chapter numbering
I can only hazard a guess at a fraction of this... At 16:56 -0500 17/8/14, Theresa de Valence wrote: In FrameBook, there will also be Front Matter and Back Matter. Can I use the Section element here or should I create a new element called OtherMatter? If you are creating an EDD from scratch (as I hope you are), it is entirely up to you how you use elements. However, as with para tags, the function of an element should be consistent. So, if you are using 'Section' for body sections within a book, you should create a different element for front and/or backmatter, as these are functionally different elements, and have different formatting (usually) and different context rules. It is difficult to scope your numbering queries, as it sounds as if you are working from a template created elsewhere. If this is the case, we do not know how the TOC is formed from the chapter templates. However, one way in which you can format a TOC consistently is to use numbered tags for the chapter titles for numbered chapters, and unnumbered tags for the titles of the unnumbered 'chapters' such as Preface, Index and so on, including both tag types in the TOC. There are many other methods though. This doesn't really relate to structure. I still don't see why you are using structure, though. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Structured: about containers, other matter and chapter numbering
I can't give advice on structured FrameMaker, but an easy way to make the correct title appear on the running header of an unstructured book is to use numbering properties. I assume the same applies to structured books. 1. In the files' appropriate master pages, insert the $volnum variable in the running header in a background text frame. 2. In the book file, select all files from one novella, then right-click and choose Numbering Properties. 3. On the Volume tab, click the Volume # radio button. Enter your novella title in the dialog box, and choose Text as the format. That's right. Numbering does not have to be numbering. It can be static text. 4. Click set. 5. Repeat steps 2-4 for the files in the second novella. A novella is the simplest kind of document. It is basically straight text and not likely to have graphics, lots of variables, cross-references, hyperlinks, etc. It's not likely to even have many types of paragraph or character formats. I think setting it up as a structured document is probably overkill and a lot of unnecessary work. I would set it up using simple, unstructured documents, with properly assigned paragraph and character formats. Mike Wickham On 8/17/2014 4:56 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote: In order to get the two novellas to display the correct title of the story (novella) on the master page, I understand I’ll need separate books (nested). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Structured: about containers, other matter and chapter numbering
Hi Teresa How are you planning to turn your structured Frame files into ebooks? If I understand things right, it'll be the same process as you'd use for unstructured Frame. Does the process work better if your files are structured? If not, I'm really having trouble figuring out what you'll gain from putting your novellas into structured Frame. We're in the middle of a conversion to DITA, so I know a lot more about DITA than about vanilla structured Frame, so I might be talking garbage here. But it's not exactly trivial to specify formatting in DITA! Even with something simpler, I'm wondering if you're signing yourself up for weeks/months of work. Cheers Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
