RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11
The standalone instance of FM has been known to not be very observant of the existence of the full Acrobat Pro version already installed - so if you don't turn that part off, the installer clobbers your full version with the headless one. Regarding round-tripping review PDFs - make sure that you are all patched up in FM - I think there were some issues with the first release of FM12. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-18-14 7:40 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Thanks, Jeff. Can you tell me how it can ditch the pdf plug-in from FM12? Once that's done, if I understand correctly, I would then print to Adobe PDF making sure that it is a tagged pdf. Reviewers then would make their edits and comments in the pdf, which I then import into the FM12 document. However, when I just tried this, all of the edits/comments came in misplaced. What would cause edits and comments to be misplaced? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation [cid:image001.jpg@01D00311.09F23520] Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St * Elmira, NY 14901 * USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 * Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/18/2014 07:22 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Certain versions of Windows include the ability to run separate installations of different operating systems - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine The Review feature is a function of Acrobat - ditching the headless version that ships with standalone FM will require the full version to be installed to be able to use it. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-17-14 8:00 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 OK, I'm a little confused here. First, I'm not sure what you mean by using a virtual machine. Second, one of the attractive features of FM12 is the save as review PDF feature. Is is possible to unload the PDF plug-in and still keep this feature? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation [cid:image001.jpg@01D00311.09F23520] Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St * Elmira, NY 14901 * USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 * Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/14/2014 05:20 PM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com For testing different Reader scenarios - yes or use Virtual Machines to test your work on -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: November-14-14 8:29 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 At 07:03 -0600 14/11/14, Mike Wickham wrote: If you have Acrobat, you should not install Reader or the PDF Creation Add-on that comes with FrameMaker on that same computer. I'm sure this is true, Mike, but it's ultra-dumb: many folks *need* Acrobat Pro as well as Reader and FrameMaker. Are we supposed to buy an extra computer? (Rhetorical question). -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as
RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11
Only if you had the full version of Acrobat Pro and then installed the headless version overtop of it. In that situation, you would have to uninstall Acrobat reinstall the full Pro version to restore your functionality. I don't know if this situation applies to you or not. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-18-14 10:00 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Jeff, sorry to be dense on this. Why would I run the installer again if I already have FM12 installed? Are you saying that I should uninstall the software, then custom re-install it? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager - Emhart Glass Cold End Emhart Glass Mfg. Inc. 1140 Sullivan St. Elmira, NY 14901 PH: +607 735-4279 FX: +607 734-8278 Mobile: +607 769-4779 Email: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/18/2014 09:58 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com When running the installer, use the Custom options to control what gets loaded From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-18-14 9:45 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Jeff, I understand, but how do you turn off the pdf plug-in? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager - Emhart Glass Cold End Emhart Glass Mfg. Inc. 1140 Sullivan St. Elmira, NY 14901 PH: +607 735-4279 FX: +607 734-8278 Mobile: +607 769-4779 Email: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/18/2014 09:29 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com The standalone instance of FM has been known to not be very observant of the existence of the full Acrobat Pro version already installed - so if you don't turn that part off, the installer clobbers your full version with the headless one. Regarding round-tripping review PDFs - make sure that you are all patched up in FM - I think there were some issues with the first release of FM12. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-18-14 7:40 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Thanks, Jeff. Can you tell me how it can ditch the pdf plug-in from FM12? Once that's done, if I understand correctly, I would then print to Adobe PDF making sure that it is a tagged pdf. Reviewers then would make their edits and comments in the pdf, which I then import into the FM12 document. However, when I just tried this, all of the edits/comments came in misplaced. What would cause edits and comments to be misplaced? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation [cid:image001.jpg@01D00316.A1B34A70] Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St * Elmira, NY 14901 * USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 * Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/18/2014 07:22 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Certain versions of Windows include the ability to run separate installations of different operating systems - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine The Review feature is a function of Acrobat - ditching the headless version that ships with standalone FM will require the full version to be installed to be able to use it. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.commailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11
More to the point, once you have installed the headless PDF distiller that comes with FrameMaker, trying to uninstall it is likely to clobber any installation of Acrobat Standard or Acrobat Pro because the uninstall script would be unaware of the existence of those tools and the fact that they depend on some of the same components that the FrameMaker installaller put on your system. It may be that if you try to uninstall the headless tool, you'll wind up having to reinstall Acrobat. This is why it is so important to opt out of the part of the FM installation that installs the headless distiller. It might be the case that the FrameMaker installer has been made more intelligent in recent versions of Frame so that it actually checks for an existing Acrobat installation (I'm still back on FM9 for several reasons si I don't know about newer installations...), but I wouldn't count on it. -Fred Ridder From: jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:22:31 + The standalone instance of FM has been known to not be very observant of the existence of the full Acrobat Pro version already installed – so if you don’t turn that part off, the installer clobbers your full version with the “headless” one. Regarding round-tripping review PDFs – make sure that you are all patched up in FM – I think there were some issues with the first release of FM12. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-18-14 7:40 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Thanks, Jeff. Can you tell me how it can ditch the pdf plug-in from FM12? Once that's done, if I understand correctly, I would then print to Adobe PDF making sure that it is a tagged pdf. Reviewers then would make their edits and comments in the pdf, which I then import into the FM12 document. However, when I just tried this, all of the edits/comments came in misplaced. What would cause edits and comments to be misplaced? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St • Elmira, NY 14901 • USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/18/2014 07:22 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Certain versions of Windows include the ability to run separate installations of different operating systems – see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine The Review feature is a function of Acrobat – ditching the headless version that ships with standalone FM will require the full version to be installed to be able to use it. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-17-14 8:00 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 OK, I'm a little confused here. First, I'm not sure what you mean by using a virtual machine. Second, one of the attractive features of FM12 is the save as review PDF feature. Is is possible to unload the PDF plug-in and still keep this feature? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St • Elmira, NY 14901 • USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 • Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/14/2014 05:20 PM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com For testing different Reader scenarios - yes or use Virtual Machines to test your work on -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: November-14-14 8:29 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 At 07:03 -0600 14/11/14, Mike Wickham wrote: If you have Acrobat, you should not install Reader or the PDF Creation Add-on that comes with FrameMaker on that same computer. I'm sure this is true, Mike, but it's
RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11
Thanks, Fred. We are going to test this on another computer. Load Acrobat Pro Extended (we're at ver. 9), then custom load FM12, making sure that the distiller is not loaded. We'll see if that solves the problem. Tom Beiswenger Project Manager - Emhart Glass Cold End Emhart Glass Mfg. Inc. 1140 Sullivan St. Elmira, NY 14901 PH: +607 735-4279 FX: +607 734-8278 Mobile: +607 769-4779 Email: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com To: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: 11/18/2014 10:13 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com More to the point, once you have installed the headless PDF distiller that comes with FrameMaker, trying to uninstall it is likely to clobber any installation of Acrobat Standard or Acrobat Pro because the uninstall script would be unaware of the existence of those tools and the fact that they depend on some of the same components that the FrameMaker installaller put on your system. It may be that if you try to uninstall the headless tool, you'll wind up having to reinstall Acrobat. This is why it is so important to opt out of the part of the FM installation that installs the headless distiller. It might be the case that the FrameMaker installer has been made more intelligent in recent versions of Frame so that it actually checks for an existing Acrobat installation (I'm still back on FM9 for several reasons si I don't know about newer installations...), but I wouldn't count on it. -Fred Ridder From: jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:22:31 + The standalone instance of FM has been known to not be very observant of the existence of the full Acrobat Pro version already installed ? so if you don?t turn that part off, the installer clobbers your full version with the ?headless? one. Regarding round-tripping review PDFs ? make sure that you are all patched up in FM ? I think there were some issues with the first release of FM12. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [ mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-18-14 7:40 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 Thanks, Jeff. Can you tell me how it can ditch the pdf plug-in from FM12? Once that's done, if I understand correctly, I would then print to Adobe PDF making sure that it is a tagged pdf. Reviewers then would make their edits and comments in the pdf, which I then import into the FM12 document. However, when I just tried this, all of the edits/comments came in misplaced. What would cause edits and comments to be misplaced? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St ? Elmira, NY 14901 ? USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/18/2014 07:22 AM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Certain versions of Windows include the ability to run separate installations of different operating systems ? see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine The Review feature is a function of Acrobat ? ditching the headless version that ships with standalone FM will require the full version to be installed to be able to use it. From: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com [ mailto:tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com] Sent: November-17-14 8:00 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11 OK, I'm a little confused here. First, I'm not sure what you mean by using a virtual machine. Second, one of the attractive features of FM12 is the save as review PDF feature. Is is possible to unload the PDF plug-in and still keep this feature? Tom Beiswenger Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation Emhart Glass Inc 1140 Sullivan St ? Elmira, NY 14901 ? USA Telephone +1 607 735 4279 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 734 1245 tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com www.bucherindustries.com From:Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com To:framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date:11/14/2014 05:20 PM Subject:RE: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed inAdobe Reader 11 Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
Re: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11
The installations screens do not make it obvious and many overlook the option. A while back, Arnis Gubins posted screenshots on where to look: https://forums.adobe.com/message/5927477#5927477 IT told me that there was no option to not install Distiller. The only options they saw were FM12 and ExtendScript ToolKit CC. Any ideas? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Break link in graphics imported by reference in FM 12?
Finalizer, from SQUIDDS, has a module that does this called Imported Graphics http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Imported%2520graphic/imported_graphic.xml.1.1.html. Not sure how much it costs, though. I haven't used FM12 yet, but there might be ExtendScripts that will do what you want. Prior discussion on this list has suggested that Frame has issues with graphics that are located far away from it. It times out while trying to fetch the graphics. There may be a good solution to it, but after a rough couple of days, I don't remember what it might be. :( On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Studio Smalbro stu...@smalbro.dk wrote: I am running FrameMaker 12 and I have a lot of trouble with generating pdf files. I believe the problem arises from having pages with graphics imported by reference - but graphics which are stored on different servers. It seems that FrameMaker has trouble with handling the links to the servers in the printing process. I would like to break the links and have the graphics embedded - but is there a way to change from referenced to embedded without having to re-import the graphics? Regards Bjørn ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame TOC Template
Where does Frame get its template for a TOC when it's generated? It's always importing old multiple reference pages that have been long deleted from other chapters. The chapters always generate fine, and I constantly see this with the TOC. I use Frame 12, but have seen this problem in many versions. Pam Harper ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
