date:20141217

RE: Page count even or no

2014-12-17 Thread Rick Quatro

Hi Gillian,

The important thing for me is that the right hand pages are numbered odd and
the left hand pages even. I want it to paginate correctly in case I decide
to print it out. Printing a PDF that I want to read is not unusual for an
old guy like me. It doesn't bother me if there are blank pages here and
there to make the pagination correct.

Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:35 PM
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Subject: Page count even or no

Do you guys still follow print protocols and produce PDFs with an even
number of pages per chapter, or no, since everyone reads PDFs online and
hardly anyone prints a manual anymore?


Thanks!

Gillian Flato
Technical Publications
Pi-Coral, Inc.
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Re: Page count even or no

2014-12-17 Thread Robert Lauriston

When it's my choice, no facing pages, no blank pages, the cover is page 1.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Gillian Flato
 wrote:
> Do you guys still follow print protocols and produce PDFs with an even number 
> of pages per chapter, or no, since everyone reads PDFs online and hardly 
> anyone prints a manual anymore?
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Page count even or no

2014-12-17 Thread Gillian Flato

Do you guys still follow print protocols and produce PDFs with an even number 
of pages per chapter, or no, since everyone reads PDFs online and hardly anyone 
prints a manual anymore?


Thanks!

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Technical Publications
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RE: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

2014-12-17 Thread Craig, Alison

I practice a version of Laura’s approach for our User Manuals – where I create 
8 manuals from one set of files (to be fair, 4 manual are “full manuals” of 
about 400 letter-sized pages, while the other 4 are subsets of the 4 “full 
manuals” and contain only about 25% of the full content).

To keep everything straight, I have a separate set of Book files for each 
version. The book files consist of

· Manual Name book.book

· Manual Name bookTOC.book

· Manual Name Cover.fm.

The book files are kept in a “Book” directory below the standard content (which 
in my case is another 21 *.fm files). I copy in only the book files I need as 
I’ve found that having all 24 book files mixed in with the 21 content files 
makes for a messy work environment.

I also keep a set of what I call “Var Doc” files – one for each of the 8 
manuals – in a Var Doc directory. These Variable files allow me to change 
variables (product names, part numbers, revision numbers, etc) in a matter of 
seconds in order to produce any manual I need. They also allow me to create Var 
Doc files for the translation bureau (on a per manual/language basis) so the 
translators can quickly update translated variables. (Just be sure to keep the 
Variables names consistent between all the Variable files or you’ll have a real 
mess on your hands.)

Alison


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marek (PDF)
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:24 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical 
Book

Thanks, you guys! Three good suggestions that I can work with — all rolling in 
overnight.
~Tony

From: Laura Fergusson 
[mailto:laura.fergus...@exterity.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:36 AM
To: Tony Marek (PDF); 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical 
Book

Hi Tony

If I understand you correctly, I would do the following.

Keep all your files in the one folder, including three separate book files:

Book for Product A

Book for Product B

Book for Product C

Add the chapters you need to each book and conditionalise the content of each 
file as required.

(You CAN exclude chapters from books (in the book file itself), but I 
personally find this more difficult to maintain.)

Hope this helps. If you’d like more information about how we use this, feel 
free to contact me off line.
Laura




Laura Fergusson | Technical Writer | Exterity Ltd
tel: +44 1383 828250 ext 249 | fax: +44 1383 824905
e: laura.fergus...@exterity.com | w: 
www.exterity.com


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Sent: 16 December 2014 23:18
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

I currently need to create a new non-structured book in Frame 12 that will have 
one of three possible outputs (to .pdf).  I’m looking for advice on the best 
way to create and maintain the project.

To simplify the problem: previously we had the Product A user manual and the 
Product B user manual – maintained and distributed separately.  These manuals 
are each at about 15 chapters and 800+ pages each, with little or no 
overlapping content.

Now, my company has merged the two products into an optional third product, so 
that we have three possible product permutations (and manuals): Product A, 
Product B and now the new Product C (which consists of all of the 
components/chapters from both A+B).

So my question is: what is the best way to merge the two document sets so that 
I can publish Manual A, Manual B or Manual C (A+B), depending on the customer.

Should I conditionalize all the chapters under one book – so that I would only 
display and publish the appropriate chapters based on the customer — e.g. 
publish chapters set to Condition A, Condition B, or both conditions for 
Product C?  Or should I use the hierarchical book structure and then add/delete 
the subordinate book depending on the customer release?

I have no experience with hierarchical books so I’m not sure what the benefits 
or drawbacks are.

I could also simply add/delete the appropriate A/B chapters from the master 
book manually – but with 30+ chapters, this seems like it could be prone to 
mistakes in publishing the correct content.

Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
~Tony

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RE: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

2014-12-17 Thread Tony Marek (PDF)

Thanks, you guys! Three good suggestions that I can work with — all rolling
in overnight.

~Tony



*From:* Laura Fergusson [mailto:laura.fergus...@exterity.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:36 AM
*To:* Tony Marek (PDF); framers@lists.frameusers.com
*Subject:* RE: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or
Hierarchical Book



Hi Tony



If I understand you correctly, I would do the following.



Keep all your files in the one folder, including three separate book files:



Book for Product A



Book for Product B



Book for Product C



Add the chapters you need to each book and conditionalise the content of
each file as required.



(You CAN exclude chapters from books (in the book file itself), but I
personally find this more difficult to maintain.)



Hope this helps. If you’d like more information about how we use this, feel
free to contact me off line.

Laura





*Laura Fergusson* | Technical Writer | *Exterity Ltd*
tel: +44 1383 828250 ext 249 | fax: +44 1383 824905
e: laura.fergus...@exterity.com | w: www.exterity.com



*From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [
mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
] *On Behalf Of *Tony Marek (PDF)
*Sent:* 16 December 2014 23:18
*To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
*Subject:* Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical
Book



I currently need to create a new non-structured book in Frame 12 that will
have one of three possible outputs (to .pdf).  I’m looking for advice on
the best way to create and maintain the project.



To simplify the problem: previously we had the Product A user manual and
the Product B user manual – maintained and distributed separately.  These
manuals are each at about 15 chapters and 800+ pages each, with little or
no overlapping content.



Now, my company has merged the two products into an optional third product,
so that we have three possible product permutations (and manuals): Product
A, Product B and now the new Product C (which consists of all of the
components/chapters from both A+B).



So my question is: what is the best way to merge the two document sets so
that I can publish Manual A, Manual B or Manual C (A+B), depending on the
customer.



Should I conditionalize all the chapters under one book – so that I would
only display and publish the appropriate chapters based on the customer —
e.g. publish chapters set to Condition A, Condition B, or both conditions
for Product C?  Or should I use the hierarchical book structure and then
add/delete the subordinate book depending on the customer release?



I have no experience with hierarchical books so I’m not sure what the
benefits or drawbacks are.



I could also simply add/delete the appropriate A/B chapters from the master
book manually – but with 30+ chapters, this seems like it could be prone to
mistakes in publishing the correct content.



Any suggestions will be much appreciated.



Thanks,

~Tony



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Re: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

2014-12-17 Thread Lin Sims

Hi Tony,

Pretty much what Laura said.

I maintain multiple guides that can have different chapters depending on
whether the information is for one customer or another. I have what I call
a "master book file" that contains all the files (this has to do with our
CMS and locating stuff, you may not need it), including the separate book
files for each version of the book. Chapters in common between books may
have conditional text or variables to further customize. Each book has a
separate document information file that records the chapters contained in
the book, the variables used and their values, and the condition set up for
producing a final. When I want to create a specific book, I open the master
book file, open the specific book file, open all the files in the book,
open the document information file, import conditional text settings and
variables from the document information file into all the book files, and
generate.

Good luck.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) 
wrote:
>
> I currently need to create a new non-structured book in Frame 12 that will
> have one of three possible outputs (to .pdf).  I’m looking for advice on
> the best way to create and maintain the project.
>
>
>
> To simplify the problem: previously we had the Product A user manual and
> the Product B user manual – maintained and distributed separately.  These
> manuals are each at about 15 chapters and 800+ pages each, with little or
> no overlapping content.
>
>
>
> Now, my company has merged the two products into an optional third
> product, so that we have three possible product permutations (and manuals):
> Product A, Product B and now the new Product C (which consists of all of
> the components/chapters from both A+B).
>
>
>
> So my question is: what is the best way to merge the two document sets so
> that I can publish Manual A, Manual B or Manual C (A+B), depending on the
> customer.
>
>
>
> Should I conditionalize all the chapters under one book – so that I would
> only display and publish the appropriate chapters based on the customer —
> e.g. publish chapters set to Condition A, Condition B, or both conditions
> for Product C?  Or should I use the hierarchical book structure and then
> add/delete the subordinate book depending on the customer release?
>
>
>
> I have no experience with hierarchical books so I’m not sure what the
> benefits or drawbacks are.
>
>
>
> I could also simply add/delete the appropriate A/B chapters from the
> master book manually – but with 30+ chapters, this seems like it could be
> prone to mistakes in publishing the correct content.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions will be much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> ~Tony
>
>
>
> ~ ~ ~
>
>
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Re: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

2014-12-17 Thread john . x . posada

Create "Group" categories, then use the  "Include" and "Exclude"
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I currently need to create a new non-structured book in Frame 12 that will
have one of three possible outputs (to .pdf).  I’m looking for advice on
the best way to create and maintain the project.

To simplify the problem: previously we had the Product A user manual and
the Product B user manual – maintained and distributed separately.  These
manuals are each at about 15 chapters and 800+ pages each, with little or
no overlapping content.

Now, my company has merged the two products into an optional third product,
so that we have three possible product permutations (and manuals): Product
A, Product B and now the new Product C (which consists of all of the
components/chapters from both A+B).

So my question is: what is the best way to merge the two document sets so
that I can publish Manual A, Manual B or Manual C (A+B), depending on the
customer.

Should I conditionalize all the chapters under one book – so that I would
only display and publish the appropriate chapters based on the customer —
e.g. publish chapters set to Condition A, Condition B, or both conditions
for Prod

RE: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

2014-12-17 Thread Laura Fergusson

Hi Tony

If I understand you correctly, I would do the following.

Keep all your files in the one folder, including three separate book files:

Book for Product A

Book for Product B

Book for Product C

Add the chapters you need to each book and conditionalise the content of each 
file as required.

(You CAN exclude chapters from books (in the book file itself), but I 
personally find this more difficult to maintain.)

Hope this helps. If you’d like more information about how we use this, feel 
free to contact me off line.
Laura




Laura Fergusson | Technical Writer | Exterity Ltd
tel: +44 1383 828250 ext 249 | fax: +44 1383 824905
e: laura.fergus...@exterity.com | w: www.exterity.com




From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marek (PDF)
Sent: 16 December 2014 23:18
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book

I currently need to create a new non-structured book in Frame 12 that will have 
one of three possible outputs (to .pdf).  I’m looking for advice on the best 
way to create and maintain the project.

To simplify the problem: previously we had the Product A user manual and the 
Product B user manual – maintained and distributed separately.  These manuals 
are each at about 15 chapters and 800+ pages each, with little or no 
overlapping content.

Now, my company has merged the two products into an optional third product, so 
that we have three possible product permutations (and manuals): Product A, 
Product B and now the new Product C (which consists of all of the 
components/chapters from both A+B).

So my question is: what is the best way to merge the two document sets so that 
I can publish Manual A, Manual B or Manual C (A+B), depending on the customer.

Should I conditionalize all the chapters under one book – so that I would only 
display and publish the appropriate chapters based on the customer — e.g. 
publish chapters set to Condition A, Condition B, or both conditions for 
Product C?  Or should I use the hierarchical book structure and then add/delete 
the subordinate book depending on the customer release?

I have no experience with hierarchical books so I’m not sure what the benefits 
or drawbacks are.

I could also simply add/delete the appropriate A/B chapters from the master 
book manually – but with 30+ chapters, this seems like it could be prone to 
mistakes in publishing the correct content.

Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
~Tony

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