RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. --- Richard D. Levine Technical Writer Check Point Software Technologies Ltd. 5 HaSollalim St., Tel Aviv, Israel 61093 Tel: 03-611-5358 Cell: 0545-994057 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak. I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techsoft%40netvision.net .il Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Hi Michael I see your what you mean by saying that the Adobe TCS being analogous to the Frame/WebWorks combination. It overcomes FrameMaker's limitations through the use of a non-integrated, third party enhancement, in this case RoboHelp, for multi-channel output. RoboHelp now uses FrameMaker files much in the same manner as it uses Word files. I cannot really say that round-tripping is what I am looking for. What I would really like to see a fully integrated authoring environment that integrates multi-channel output with a powerful editor that overcomes FrameMaker's many limitations, thus obviating the need for import and export. AuthorIT does this with some limitations, and Blaze (still vaporware) promises to provide such functionality. My question then becomes: Why should I purchase the TCS bundle if all it offers is a WebWorks replacement? RoboHelp is a full featured HAT with printed output (PDF) support. Why not just import my legacy Frame documents into RoboHelp, and then use RoboHelp as my authoring environment? Regards, Richard Levine -Original Message- From: Michael Müller-Hillebrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:55 AM To: Richard Levine Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Hi Richard, I'd like to understand what you exactly mean with two-way round- tripping and why you need that. I always thought of multi-channel publishing as single-source publishing with a stress on single and having easy production paths into PDF and Online Help. Therefore the only thing (I thought) I need is a live connect to the source documents. Why would I want to make changes in the originals during the Online Help production phase? Thanks, - Michael Müller-Hillebrand Am 25.09.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Richard Levine: Hi Michael, You make a good point. I am looking forward to testing this when the trial version is ready. It would be nice if there was two way round- tripping such as that offered by Flare. Richard Levine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers-bounces [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Müller-Hillebrand Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:30 PM To: Framers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine: According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. No, it's more than that. It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very much like good ol' WebWorks Publisher provided it. If you change your FrameMaker documents, this will be reflected in your RoboHelp output, if you want so. But you can do local changes, if you like breaking your single-source workflow. Check it out! Very much like I couldn't believe we would see FrameMaker with Unicode I was surprised to see that level of integration with RoboHelp. - Michael Müller-Hillebrand -- _ Michael Müller-Hillebrand -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker 7 Lösungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode ~ ~ Auch dieses Jahr wieder auf der tekom-Tagung in Wiesbaden ~ ~ Messestand F20 im Foyer: Pers. Beratung vom 7.-9.11.2007 ~ ~ Besuchen Sie mein Tutorial: »Frame-Doktor« (9.11. 8:45h) ~ ~ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 "integration" is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. --- Richard D. Levine Technical Writer Check Point Software Technologies Ltd. 5 HaSollalim St., Tel Aviv, Israel 61093 Tel: 03-611-5358 Cell: 0545-994057 richardl at checkpoint.com --- -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+techsoft=netvision.net...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+techsoft=netvision.net.il at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:23 PM To: richard.melanson at us.tel.com Cc: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com; framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak. I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as techsoft at netvision.net.il. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techsoft%40netvision.net .il Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Hi Michael I see your what you mean by saying that the Adobe TCS being analogous to the Frame/WebWorks combination. It overcomes FrameMaker's limitations through the use of a non-integrated, third party enhancement, in this case RoboHelp, for multi-channel output. RoboHelp now uses FrameMaker files much in the same manner as it uses Word files. I cannot really say that round-tripping is what I am looking for. What I would really like to see a fully integrated authoring environment that integrates multi-channel output with a powerful editor that overcomes FrameMaker's many limitations, thus obviating the need for import and export. AuthorIT does this with some limitations, and Blaze (still vaporware) promises to provide such functionality. My question then becomes: Why should I purchase the TCS bundle if all it offers is a WebWorks replacement? RoboHelp is a full featured HAT with printed output (PDF) support. Why not just import my legacy Frame documents into RoboHelp, and then use RoboHelp as my authoring environment? Regards, Richard Levine -Original Message- From: Michael M?ller-Hillebrand [mailto:m...@cap-studio.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:55 AM To: Richard Levine Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Hi Richard, I'd like to understand what you exactly mean with two-way round- tripping and why you need that. I always thought of "multi-channel publishing" as "single-source publishing" with a stress on "single" and having easy production paths into PDF and Online Help. Therefore the only thing (I thought) I need is a live connect to the source documents. Why would I want to make changes in the originals during the Online Help production phase? Thanks, - Michael M?ller-Hillebrand Am 25.09.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Richard Levine: > Hi Michael, > > You make a good point. I am looking forward to testing this when the > trial version is ready. It would be nice if there was two way round- > tripping such as that offered by Flare. > > Richard Levine > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+techsoft=netvision.net.il at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces > +techsoft=netvision.net.il at lists.frameusers.com] On > Behalf Of Michael M?ller-Hillebrand > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:30 PM > To: Framers; framers at omsys.com > Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite > > Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine: > >> According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 "integration" is one-way .fm or >> .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. > > No, it's more than that. > > It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very > much like good ol' WebWorks Publisher provided it. If you change your > FrameMaker documents, this will be reflected in your RoboHelp output, > if you want so. > But you can do local changes, if you like breaking your single-source > workflow. > > Check it out! Very much like I couldn't believe we would see > FrameMaker with Unicode I was surprised to see that level of > integration with RoboHelp. > > - Michael M?ller-Hillebrand -- _ Michael M?ller-Hillebrand -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747 Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker 7 L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode ~ ~ Auch dieses Jahr wieder auf der tekom-Tagung in Wiesbaden ~ ~ Messestand F20 im Foyer: Pers. Beratung vom 7.-9.11.2007 ~ ~ Besuchen Sie mein Tutorial: ?Frame-Doktor? (9.11. 8:45h) ~ ~
