Re: master index of multiple book

[Milton, Cynthia]

I concur. In my last job I did exactly that (so engineers could find the doc 
they needed easily). The uber-book contained over 300 separate docs, and 
another 400-page big book as a sub-book. 

When you generate the index, make sure you DO NOT UPDATE ANY NUMBERING, as 
otherwise everything gets screwed up. To differentiate index entries for the 
individual docs and the big book, I added a meaningful prefix to the numbering, 
so the big book entries were H-pageno and the individual doc entries were 
W-work instruction no.

I used normal index markers from the big book and Subject markers from the 
individual docs, using the otherwise-non-functional Volume number.

/Cynthia
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[Milton, Cynthia]

I concur. In my last job I did exactly that (so engineers could find the doc 
they needed easily). The uber-book contained over 300 separate docs, and 
another 400-page big book as a sub-book. 

When you generate the index, make sure you DO NOT UPDATE ANY NUMBERING, as 
otherwise everything gets screwed up. To differentiate index entries for the 
individual docs and the big book, I added a meaningful prefix to the numbering, 
so the big book entries were H- and the individual doc entries were 
W-.

I used normal index markers from the big book and Subject markers from the 
individual docs, using the otherwise-non-functional Volume number.

/Cynthia

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When I import from Visio I find the SVG format works best for me.

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RE: PDF Bookmarks [P]

[Milton, Cynthia]

Classification: Serco Public

Thanks to all for the suggestions, all of which I tried.

I still don't know why, but when I removed the book-within-a-book it all 
worked fine. I shall investigate further, but have Plans B to Z in case I can't 
find a proper solution.

I now need a lie-down in a darkened room, especially as the country will grind 
to a halt tomorrow because of some wedding or other. More beer, I think.


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From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wr...@tycoint.com]
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To: Milton, Cynthia; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: AW: PDF Bookmarks [P]

Hi Cynthia,

Bookmarks are only created, when Generate Acrobat Data
in the print dialog is activated. Possibly this option was activated when you 
printed the index but not for the large book.

Baruch advised to add GroupTitlesIOM in Format  Document PDF Setup  
Bookmarks. Did you select all files in the book, before you did this?

Best regards

Winfried

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 Betreff: PDF Bookmarks [P]
 
 Classification: Serco Public
 
 I believe I've now tried all combinations, and still no dice. Printing 
 to PS and then distilling doesn't work either. I still have bookmarks 
 in the individual index file, and none at all in the huge one.
 
 I'll keep trying, but . . .
 
 I may have to self-harm.
 
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PDF Bookmarks [P]

[Milton, Cynthia]

Classification: Serco Public

Thanks to all for the suggestions, all of which I tried.

I still don't know why, but when I removed the "book-within-a-book" it all 
worked fine. I shall investigate further, but have Plans B to Z in case I can't 
find a proper solution.

I now need a lie-down in a darkened room, especially as the country will grind 
to a halt tomorrow because of some wedding or other. More beer, I think.


Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
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From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wr...@tycoint.com]
Sent: 27 April 2011 15:41
To: Milton, Cynthia; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: AW: PDF Bookmarks [P]

Hi Cynthia,

Bookmarks are only created, when "Generate Acrobat Data"
in the print dialog is activated. Possibly this option was activated when you 
printed the index but not for the large book.

Baruch advised to add GroupTitlesIOM in Format > Document PDF Setup > 
Bookmarks. Did you select all files in the book, before you did this?

Best regards

Winfried

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> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. April 2011 12:05
> An: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Betreff: PDF Bookmarks [P]
> 
> Classification: Serco Public
> 
> I believe I've now tried all combinations, and still no dice. Printing 
> to PS and then distilling doesn't work either. I still have bookmarks 
> in the individual index file, and none at all in the huge one.
> 
> I'll keep trying, but . . .
> 
> I may have to self-harm.
> 
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PDF Bookmarks [P]

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Classification: Serco Public

I believe I've now tried all combinations, and still no dice. Printing
to PS and then distilling doesn't work either. I still have bookmarks in
the individual index file, and none at all in the huge one.

I'll keep trying, but . . .

I may have to self-harm.

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[Milton, Cynthia]

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I believe I've now tried all combinations, and still no dice. Printing
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the individual index file, and none at all in the huge one.

I'll keep trying, but . . .

I may have to self-harm.

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PDF bookmarks [P]

[Milton, Cynthia]

Classification: Serco Public

Hi Gurus

FM9, XP SP3.

I have a humungous book ( 1600 pages) with a subject index. I print to
the Adobe PDF printer.

When I print just the index, with bookmarks specified (GroupTitlesIOM),
the resulting PDF shows the alphabetic bookmarks in the expected way.

However, when I print the whole file to PDF with bookmarks specified in
exactly the same way (and with the individual chapter titles specified
as well), the result is absolutely no bookmarks at all.

Am I having a combined blonde/senior moment? Is it something to do with
file size? Do I need more beer?

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[Milton, Cynthia]

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Done that. Same for both sets of printing (single file and humungous
one). Doing my head in.
 
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From: Baruch Brodersen [mailto:bar...@technitext.com] 
Sent: 26 April 2011 15:30
To: Milton, Cynthia
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF bookmarks [P]


Hi Cynthia,

More beer, definitely. 

Make sure the GroupTitlesIOM format is specified in the book file PDF
Setup and not just in the Index file. (In the book file, select all
files including the book file, then Format  Document PDF Setup 
Bookmarks tab.)

Best.

Baruch Brodersen



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cynthia.mil...@serco.com wrote:


Classification: Serco Public

Hi Gurus

FM9, XP SP3.

I have a humungous book ( 1600 pages) with a subject index. I
print to
the Adobe PDF printer.

When I print just the index, with bookmarks specified
(GroupTitlesIOM),
the resulting PDF shows the alphabetic bookmarks in the expected
way.

However, when I print the whole file to PDF with bookmarks
specified in
exactly the same way (and with the individual chapter titles
specified
as well), the result is absolutely no bookmarks at all.

Am I having a combined blonde/senior moment? Is it something to
do with
file size? Do I need more beer?

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
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PDF bookmarks [P]

[Milton, Cynthia]

Classification: Serco Public

Hi Gurus

FM9, XP SP3.

I have a humungous book (> 1600 pages) with a subject index. I print to
the Adobe PDF printer.

When I print just the index, with bookmarks specified (GroupTitlesIOM),
the resulting PDF shows the alphabetic bookmarks in the expected way.

However, when I print the whole file to PDF with bookmarks specified in
exactly the same way (and with the individual chapter titles specified
as well), the result is absolutely no bookmarks at all.

Am I having a combined blonde/senior moment? Is it something to do with
file size? Do I need more beer?

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PDF bookmarks [P]

[Milton, Cynthia]

Classification: Serco Public

Done that. Same for both sets of printing (single file and humungous
one). Doing my head in.

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation




From: Baruch Brodersen [mailto:bar...@technitext.com] 
Sent: 26 April 2011 15:30
To: Milton, Cynthia
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF bookmarks [P]


Hi Cynthia,

More beer, definitely. 

Make sure the GroupTitlesIOM format is specified in the book file PDF
Setup and not just in the Index file. (In the book file, select all
files including the book file, then Format > Document PDF Setup >
Bookmarks tab.)

Best.

Baruch Brodersen



On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Milton, Cynthia
 wrote:


Classification: Serco Public

Hi Gurus

FM9, XP SP3.

I have a humungous book (> 1600 pages) with a subject index. I
print to
the Adobe PDF printer.

When I print just the index, with bookmarks specified
(GroupTitlesIOM),
the resulting PDF shows the alphabetic bookmarks in the expected
way.

However, when I print the whole file to PDF with bookmarks
specified in
exactly the same way (and with the individual chapter titles
specified
as well), the result is absolutely no bookmarks at all.

Am I having a combined blonde/senior moment? Is it something to
do with
file size? Do I need more beer?

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation




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Creating hyperlink to PDF

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I generally use a Marker, type Hypertext, value: 

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RE: FM8 with SP3/FM9 SP3 or Windows7 - any problems? [P]

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I have FM9 + XP SP3.

 

When importing Visio stuff I've found the best solution for me is to
export the Visio drawings as SVG for import to FM. Gives me a good
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Not just Adobe. Regardless of exchange rates, it's always been the case that 
the dollar price is more or less the same numerical value as the sterling 
price. Thus anything costing $100 in the US costs £100 over here (which is 
sometimes twice the actual price). VAT (purchase tax) varies around Europe, but 
is 17.5% here in the UK and about to rise to 20%.

 

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the dollar price is more or less the same numerical value as the sterling 
price. Thus anything costing $100 in the US costs ?100 over here (which is 
sometimes twice the actual price). VAT (purchase tax) varies around Europe, but 
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Re: plugin for tracking text insets

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You can produce a basic list of insets by adding a List of References
and adding Text Insets to it. This gives you a basic list giving:

 

Inset filename . . . . . . .Container filename . . . . . . . . . . page
number.

 

Not everything you want, but better than zilch.

 

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plugin for tracking text insets

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Inset filename . . . . . . .Container filename . . . . . . . . . . page
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Pgf numbering strangeness

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Run out of brick walls.

 

FM9 p255, XP SP3

 

Single-file doc with four Sections. Sections and sub-sections numbered
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 etc.

 

Pgf numbering formats:

 

Heading1 S:n+. =0 =0 =0

Heading2 S:n.n+ =0 =0

Heading3 S:n.n.n+ =0

 

But I'm getting Sections 1 and 2 (with subsections), then 5 and 6 (which
should be 3 and 4). I've checked for anything hidden - nada.  Pix and
tables are numbered with F:n+ and T:n+ respectively so shouldn't be
affecting anything.

 

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Not a book, just a single file. That's what makes it so strange.

 

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From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 30 September 2010 12:59
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Milton, Cynthia
Subject: Re: Pgf numbering strangeness

 

Cynthia,
Is the book numbering set the same for all chapters, except chapter 1?
Chapter 1 should have the chapter numbering set to start at 1.
All other it should be Continue Numbering from Previous File in Book.

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Subject: Pgf numbering strangeness
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 5:36 AM


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Run out of brick walls.



FM9 p255, XP SP3



Single-file doc with four Sections. Sections and sub-sections numbered
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 etc.



Pgf numbering formats:



Heading1 S:n+. =0 =0 =0

Heading2 S:n.n+ =0 =0

Heading3 S:n.n.n+ =0



But I'm getting Sections 1 and 2 (with subsections), then 5 and 6 (which
should be 3 and 4). I've checked for anything hidden - nada.  Pix and
tables are numbered with F:n+ and T:n+ respectively so shouldn't be
affecting anything.



Going bonkers. Any bright ideas please?



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From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca]
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To: Fred Ridder
Cc: dspre...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; Milton, Cynthia
Subject: Re: Pgf numbering strangeness

Finding rogue paragraph numbering can be a little less tedious if you
save as MIF, open the MIF in a text editor, and search for PgfAutoNum 
Yes or PgfNumFormat tags.

Fred Ridder wrote:
 . . .
 What Cynthia needs to look for is rogue paragraphs that increment the
first counter in the S: numbering series, possibly without actually
displaying any numbering in the text of the document. Unfortunately,
that process can be extremely tedious, particularly if there are a lot
of paragraph styles in the catalog or if there are a lot of paragraphs
that have overrides since the numbering properties of each of these has
to be examined individually. . . 
   


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Run out of brick walls.



FM9 p255, XP SP3



Single-file doc with four Sections. Sections and sub-sections numbered
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 etc.



Pgf numbering formats:



Heading1 S:.< =0>< =0>< =0>

Heading2 S:.< =0>< =0>

Heading3 S:..< =0>



But I'm getting Sections 1 and 2 (with subsections), then 5 and 6 (which
should be 3 and 4). I've checked for anything hidden - nada.  Pix and
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Not a book, just a single file. That's what makes it so strange.



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From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 30 September 2010 12:59
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Milton, Cynthia
Subject: Re: Pgf numbering strangeness



Cynthia,
Is the book numbering set the same for all chapters, except chapter 1?
Chapter 1 should have the chapter numbering set to start at 1.
All other it should be "Continue Numbering from Previous File in Book".

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From: Milton, Cynthia <cynthia.mil...@serco.com>
Subject: Pgf numbering strangeness
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 5:36 AM


Classification: SERCO-PUBLIC

Run out of brick walls.



FM9 p255, XP SP3



Single-file doc with four Sections. Sections and sub-sections numbered
1, 1.1, 1.1.1 etc.



Pgf numbering formats:



Heading1 S:<n+>.< =0>< =0>< =0>

Heading2 S:.<n+>< =0>< =0>

Heading3 S:..<n+>< =0>



But I'm getting Sections 1 and 2 (with subsections), then 5 and 6 (which
should be 3 and 4). I've checked for anything hidden - nada.  Pix and
tables are numbered with F:<n+> and T:<n+> respectively so shouldn't be
affecting anything.



Going bonkers. Any bright ideas please?



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Pgf numbering strangeness

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Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)

-Original Message-
From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca]
Sent: 30 September 2010 14:17
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: dspreadb at yahoo.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; Milton, Cynthia
Subject: Re: Pgf numbering strangeness

Finding rogue paragraph numbering can be a little less tedious if you
save as MIF, open the MIF in a text editor, and search for  or PgfNumFormat tags.

Fred Ridder wrote:
> . . .
> What Cynthia needs to look for is rogue paragraphs that increment the
first counter in the "S:" numbering series, possibly without actually
displaying any numbering in the text of the document. Unfortunately,
that process can be extremely tedious, particularly if there are a lot
of paragraph styles in the catalog or if there are a lot of paragraphs
that have overrides since the numbering properties of each of these has
to be examined individually. . . 
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Frame 7 documentation

[Milton, Cynthia]

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Hi All



I'm using FM9, but the manual isn't nearly as good as earlier ones, and
I've been trying to get hold of an electronic copy of the FM7 manual,
which I remember as being rather good. Can anyone help please?



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RE: Consolidated index - more

[Milton, Cynthia]

 
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OK, so, I played around a bit more. I hope the following makes sense to
you.

To recap: the book file from which I'm generating the index contains
around 200 files and a book file, thus:

IOM (Index of Markers)
Files . . .
Book

This book file contains ordinary fm files and generated TOC, LOT, LOF
and IX files, thus:

Title
Preface
TOC
LOF
LOT
Files . . . 
IX

Now, I noticed that the TOC/LOF/LOT wodge consisted of 14 pages. So I
inserted a spurious index marker in the Preface (i.e. before the
generated wodge), and regenerated the consolidated book. Bingo, the
spurious index entry had the correct page number, and markers on pages
after the generated wodge produced numbers 14 adrift from reality, as
before.

The 21-page discrepancy between the reported number of pages of the
subsidiary book in the consolidated file and the subsidiary book file is
accounted for by all the generated files, i.e. the front-wodge and the
IX file. And when I generate a PDF, the generated files in the
subsidiary book are ignored.

I can only assume that when one generates a book containing a book (so
to speak), Frame ignores the generated files in the contained book, for
some reason. 

My quick-and-dirty will be to temporarily insert a 14-page file in the
subsidiary book to pad it out. Anyone have any further thoughts?

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Consolidated index - more

[Milton, Cynthia]

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OK, so, I played around a bit more. I hope the following makes sense to
you.

To recap: the book file from which I'm generating the index contains
around 200 files and a book file, thus:

IOM (Index of Markers)
Files . . .
Book

This book file contains ordinary fm files and generated TOC, LOT, LOF
and IX files, thus:

Title
Preface
TOC
LOF
LOT
Files . . . 
IX

Now, I noticed that the TOC/LOF/LOT wodge consisted of 14 pages. So I
inserted a spurious index marker in the Preface (i.e. before the
generated wodge), and regenerated the consolidated book. Bingo, the
spurious index entry had the correct page number, and markers on pages
after the generated wodge produced numbers 14 adrift from reality, as
before.

The 21-page discrepancy between the reported number of pages of the
subsidiary book in the consolidated file and the subsidiary book file is
accounted for by all the generated files, i.e. the front-wodge and the
IX file. And when I generate a PDF, the generated files in the
subsidiary book are ignored.

I can only assume that when one generates a book containing a book (so
to speak), Frame ignores the generated files in the contained book, for
some reason. 

My quick-and-dirty will be to temporarily insert a 14-page file in the
subsidiary book to pad it out. Anyone have any further thoughts?

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)



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Consolidated index

[Milton, Cynthia]

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Hi All

 

FM9, XP.

 

I'm constructing a consolidated index of around 200 individual documents
and a 400-page book. I've created a book file containing the individual
docs and the book file.

 

I've managed to persuade it to produce an index containing the Subject
markers in the individual files (which are numbered by volume) and the
Index markers in the book (which is conventionally numbered). In the
consolidated  index the Subject markers are prefixed with W and followed
by $volnum and the Index markers with H followed by $pagenum.

 

The Subject markers work fine, but the index markers (referencing page
numbers in the book) are 14 out - they show a page 14 before the actual
page, e.g it shows 305 when the actual page number is 319.

 

The book reports itself (correctly) as 376 pages.  In the consolidated
book it reports as 355 pages (huh?). 

 

Any ideas? Unfortunately I work in a tin shed and can't find a brick
wall to bang my head against.

 

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991

Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)

 


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Consolidated index

[Milton, Cynthia]

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Hi All



FM9, XP.



I'm constructing a consolidated index of around 200 individual documents
and a 400-page book. I've created a book file containing the individual
docs and the book file.



I've managed to persuade it to produce an index containing the Subject
markers in the individual files (which are numbered by volume) and the
Index markers in the book (which is conventionally numbered). In the
consolidated  index the Subject markers are prefixed with W and followed
by <$volnum> and the Index markers with H followed by <$pagenum>.



The Subject markers work fine, but the index markers (referencing page
numbers in the book) are 14 out - they show a page 14 before the actual
page, e.g it shows 305 when the actual page number is 319.



The book reports itself (correctly) as 376 pages.  In the consolidated
book it reports as 355 pages (huh?). 



Any ideas? Unfortunately I work in a tin shed and can't find a brick
wall to bang my head against.



Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991

Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)




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Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

[Milton, Cynthia]

 
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I put $lastpagenum in the Master pages of the last file (text colour
white so it doesn't show) in its own para format. Then I insert x-refs
to that paratag in the other files in the book. I can send you samples
off-list if you like.

Works a treat. Bit of a bother to set up, but once it's there it sorts
itself out and you don't have to bother again.

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
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Page Numbering Format (# of ##) in an FM Book

[Milton, Cynthia]

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I put <$lastpagenum> in the Master pages of the last file (text colour
white so it doesn't show) in its own para format. Then I insert x-refs
to that paratag in the other files in the book. I can send you samples
off-list if you like.

Works a treat. Bit of a bother to set up, but once it's there it sorts
itself out and you don't have to bother again.

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)
Note: I will be OOF from 21/06/10, returning 12/07 -Original
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Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

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W*** is a four-letter thingy where I work. Just uttering it within my
hearing reduces me to jelly. I prefer a quiet life, with no dramas.

Seriously, as far as I'm concerned, ease of use, consistency (and
enforcement thereof), predictability, flexibility, portability,
dependability . . .

Depends entirely on what you want to do. YMMV.

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:44:29 -0500
From: Kelly McDaniel kmcdan...@pavtech.com
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Subject: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word
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Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly.

 
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Seriously, as far as I'm concerned, ease of use, consistency (and
enforcement thereof), predictability, flexibility, portability,
dependability . . .

Depends entirely on what you want to do. YMMV.

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Thought for the day

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My local paper yesterday referred to a car being a right-off. And a
brochure published by the Home Office (the UK ministry for domestic
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PDF weirdness

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Good afternoon all.

One of my engineers came to me today having printed out a PDF I sent him
(FM9p250, WinXP SP3).

Not a dry seat in the house - the (A4) page was a tiny rectangle in the
middle of the sheet. When I fired up the PDF in Reader on my laptop it
reported being displayed at 779% of actual size. Well, roll me over and
thrash me with a stick of limp celery.

I've checked every setting I can find and there's nothing obvious.
Anyone come across this before?

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Yup, checked all that, and I'm printing to the Adobe PDF printer
instance. Everything's set to A4 and 100%.

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Subject: RE: PDF weirdness

Good luck, Cynthia.  I've forgotten all of the details, but I've had
this happen in FM 6 and FM 7, too, so we can't blame FM 9 for this one. 

I'm pretty sure the settings were on the Frame side. Sorry if a bit
vague, but I'd suggest you double-check the Print Setup settings at the
book level and make sure you have A4 under Paper - Size. Hopefully,
you're printing to the Adobe PDF instance. Double-check the Adobe
settings and make sure that page size is A4 also. The other place to
check is the Page Size settings under Format - Document - PDF setup. Do
this at the book level and you can handle every chapter at once. If all
three of those spots (Print Setup, Adobe PDF Page Size, and Format Doc)
are set for A4, you should be good. If not, hopefully others on the list
will have further ideas.

HTH,
Jim


 

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Good afternoon all.

One of my engineers came to me today having printed out a PDF I sent him
(FM9p250, WinXP SP3).

Not a dry seat in the house - the (A4) page was a tiny rectangle in the
middle of the sheet. When I fired up the PDF in Reader on my laptop it
reported being displayed at 779% of actual size. Well, roll me over and
thrash me with a stick of limp celery.

I've checked every setting I can find and there's nothing obvious.
Anyone come across this before?

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)

 
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PDF weirdness

[Milton, Cynthia]

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Good afternoon all.

One of my engineers came to me today having printed out a PDF I sent him
(FM9p250, WinXP SP3).

Not a dry seat in the house - the (A4) page was a tiny rectangle in the
middle of the sheet. When I fired up the PDF in Reader on my laptop it
reported being displayed at 779% of actual size. Well, roll me over and
thrash me with a stick of limp celery.

I've checked every setting I can find and there's nothing obvious.
Anyone come across this before?

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)


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PDF weirdness

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Yup, checked all that, and I'm printing to the Adobe PDF printer
instance. Everything's set to A4 and 100%.

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
Technical Documentation (Cyclamen - Rollestone)

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From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com]
Sent: 27 May 2010 14:27
To: Milton, Cynthia; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF weirdness

Good luck, Cynthia.  I've forgotten all of the details, but I've had
this happen in FM 6 and FM 7, too, so we can't blame FM 9 for this one. 

I'm pretty sure the settings were on the Frame side. Sorry if a bit
vague, but I'd suggest you double-check the Print Setup settings at the
book level and make sure you have A4 under Paper - Size. Hopefully,
you're printing to the Adobe PDF instance. Double-check the Adobe
settings and make sure that page size is A4 also. The other place to
check is the Page Size settings under Format - Document - PDF setup. Do
this at the book level and you can handle every chapter at once. If all
three of those spots (Print Setup, Adobe PDF Page Size, and Format Doc)
are set for A4, you should be good. If not, hopefully others on the list
will have further ideas.

HTH,
Jim




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Good afternoon all.

One of my engineers came to me today having printed out a PDF I sent him
(FM9p250, WinXP SP3).

Not a dry seat in the house - the (A4) page was a tiny rectangle in the
middle of the sheet. When I fired up the PDF in Reader on my laptop it
reported being displayed at 779% of actual size. Well, roll me over and
thrash me with a stick of limp celery.

I've checked every setting I can find and there's nothing obvious.
Anyone come across this before?

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hypertext command message openfile but keep first file open

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I think this is an Acrobat Reader thing. I use this function a lot, and
stress to the users that they must do Edit  Preferences  Documents and
uncheck Open cross-document links in same window.

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Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:03:28 +0200
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Subject: hypertext command message openfile but keep first file open
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Hi group

I'm trying to do the following:

Insert a message client hypertext command in file A which opens file B.
Both files will be PDF documents (yes, I use PDF for presentations
instead of PowerPoint).

I'm currently using the following command:

message openfile C:/temp/fileB.pdf

The command works but the problem is that file A closes when file B is
opened.

Does anyone know how to keep file A open?

Thanks



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I think this is an Acrobat Reader thing. I use this function a lot, and
stress to the users that they must do Edit > Preferences > Documents and
uncheck "Open cross-document links in same window".

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Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:03:28 +0200
From: Yves Barbion 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: hypertext command "message openfile" but keep first file open
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi group

I'm trying to do the following:

Insert a message client hypertext command in file A which opens file B.
Both files will be PDF documents (yes, I use PDF for presentations
instead of PowerPoint).

I'm currently using the following command:

message openfile C:/temp/fileB.pdf

The command works but the problem is that file A closes when file B is
opened.

Does anyone know how to keep file A open?

Thanks



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RE: FrameMaker 9 Repeatable Hard Crash

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Does the same in XP/FM9p250 unstructured, although I found that ending
one of the FM processes in Task Manager zapped the second instance as
well, and CPU usage died down immediately.

However, one has to ask why one would want to import formats from
Current into Current.

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FrameMaker 9 Repeatable Hard Crash

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Does the same in XP/FM9p250 unstructured, although I found that ending
one of the FM processes in Task Manager zapped the second instance as
well, and CPU usage died down immediately.

However, one has to ask why one would want to import formats from
Current into Current.

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Revision histories - xrefs

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I try to use x-refs where possible for these. That way they still point
to the appropriate place in the doc when other stuff has been
added/moved/deleted. And when something's been deleted I just convert
the x-ref to text. Bit untidy, but satisfies the Config people.

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If someone has a better solution for being able to provide a mechanism
for recording the revisions to a procedure i.e., Rev. 1 : Removed
references to Fig 2. and updated weight of tank contents - Change made
by Peter Cottontale. 12/24/2009. I am really trying to avoid doing this
via a database because of the issues with managing the data eg., if the
user changes the titles it has to be updated in the database. I really
think that using cross- references for this is a better solution. Any
suggestions are appreciated.

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Revision histories - xrefs

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I try to use x-refs where possible for these. That way they still point
to the appropriate place in the doc when other stuff has been
added/moved/deleted. And when something's been deleted I just convert
the x-ref to text. Bit untidy, but satisfies the Config people.

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If someone has a better solution for being able to provide a mechanism
for recording the revisions to a procedure i.e., Rev. 1 : Removed
references to Fig 2. and updated weight of tank contents - Change made
by Peter Cottontale. 12/24/2009. I am really trying to avoid doing this
via a database because of the issues with managing the data eg., if the
user changes the titles it has to be updated in the database. I really
think that using cross- references for this is a better solution. Any
suggestions are appreciated.

K. Grace
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FM9 + WinXP Pro: Object Properties?

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Sounds odd. All works for me OK. Exactly the same setup, BTW.

However, it's occurred to me that the Object Properties pod may be
trying to appear off-screen - I have mine set up so the main FM9 window
is on my big screen and all the pods and stuff stay on the laptop
screen.

Dunno, just a thought

/C

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Subject: FM9 + WinXP Pro: Object Properties?

I'm a longtime FM7 user that is migrating to FM9. I'm using Windows XP
Pro SP3.
Once upon a time in FrameMaker, Esc+g+o would show the object properties
of the selected object. In FM9 it works for objects created in
FrameMaker, but when done on a placed graphic, nothing happens.
Furthermore, going to the Graphics menu and selecting Object
Properties also does nothing.
How do I access the properties of an imported graphic in FM9? I use this
functionality a LOT when I need to check the path and filename of a
referenced object; I'm not about to create a report each and every time
I want to check the location of a graphic.
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Sounds odd. All works for me OK. Exactly the same setup, BTW.

However, it's occurred to me that the Object Properties pod may be
trying to appear off-screen - I have mine set up so the main FM9 window
is on my big screen and all the pods and stuff stay on the laptop
screen.

Dunno, just a thought

/C

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From: "Dan Harding" 
Subject: FM9 + WinXP Pro: Object Properties?

I'm a longtime FM7 user that is migrating to FM9. I'm using Windows XP
Pro SP3.
Once upon a time in FrameMaker, Esc+g+o would show the object properties
of the selected object. In FM9 it works for objects created in
FrameMaker, but when done on a placed graphic, nothing happens.
Furthermore, going to the Graphics menu and selecting "Object
Properties" also does nothing.
How do I access the properties of an imported graphic in FM9? I use this
functionality a LOT when I need to check the path and filename of a
referenced object; I'm not about to create a report each and every time
I want to check the location of a graphic.
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I second that. Really difficult to winnow out the current content
otherwise.

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Re: Import external file by reference

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I use a different approach to this question. All my docs are provided to
the users as PDFs. Where they refer out to other docs I use hyperlinks
and open the referred-to docs in a new window (sometimes PDF, sometimes
Excel spreadsheet, etc.) It helps that there's a standard directory
structure, and I stipulate that the system won't work if the users try
to do their own thing (OK, herding cats through treacle, but . . .).

However it works pretty well on the whole, and satisfies my love of
crude-but-effective if elegance is too complicated. It's also easy to
maintain.

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Import external file by reference

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I use a different approach to this question. All my docs are provided to
the users as PDFs. Where they refer out to other docs I use hyperlinks
and open the referred-to docs in a new window (sometimes PDF, sometimes
Excel spreadsheet, etc.) It helps that there's a standard directory
structure, and I stipulate that the system won't work if the users try
to do their own thing (OK, herding cats through treacle, but . . .).

However it works pretty well on the whole, and satisfies my love of
crude-but-effective if elegance is too complicated. It's also easy to
maintain.

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RE: Xrefs in text insets (FM9)

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Thanks Diane. Perfectomundo.

Makes sense, of course, in that the same text chunk could appear in
several different container docs. Shame Adobe don't give the option,
though.

Cynthia Milton - 0773 889 5991
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From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: 20 October 2009 04:42
To: Milton, Cynthia; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Xrefs in text insets (FM9)

Hi Cynthia,

You are not doing anything wrong.  We had the same problem.  The reason
that the links do not work is that they still point to the original
location and not to the place where the text insets are.  To make the
links work, you have to reset each xref to the new location.

I know that this sounds like a lot of trouble, but there is an easy
solution.  Contact Rick Quatro at www.frameexpert.com.  Rick has a
framescript already written that does this in a couple of seconds.  It
also resets the links back to the original location if you want to
update the files.  Note that you also have to buy a FrameScript licence
to run a FrameScript on your system.  You can buy FrameScript for
$149.95 at Finite Matters at
http://www.framescript.com/index.php?q=node/77.

Hope this helps,

Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
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Subject: Xrefs in text insets (FM9)



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I have docs with text insets and quite a lot of Xrefs.



When I print the container doc to PDF, the Xrefs within the inset doc do
not convert to links.



Have I done something stupid? Or is this normal? The User Guide of FM9
sucks compared with previous ones.



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Thanks Diane. Perfectomundo.

Makes sense, of course, in that the same text chunk could appear in
several different container docs. Shame Adobe don't give the option,
though.

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From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: 20 October 2009 04:42
To: Milton, Cynthia; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Xrefs in text insets (FM9)

Hi Cynthia,

You are not doing anything wrong.  We had the same problem.  The reason
that the links do not work is that they still point to the original
location and not to the place where the text insets are.  To make the
links work, you have to reset each xref to the new location.

I know that this sounds like a lot of trouble, but there is an easy
solution.  Contact Rick Quatro at www.frameexpert.com.  Rick has a
framescript already written that does this in a couple of seconds.  It
also resets the links back to the original location if you want to
update the files.  Note that you also have to buy a FrameScript licence
to run a FrameScript on your system.  You can buy FrameScript for
$149.95 at Finite Matters at
http://www.framescript.com/index.php?q=node/77.

Hope this helps,

Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
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I have docs with text insets and quite a lot of Xrefs.



When I print the container doc to PDF, the Xrefs within the inset doc do
not convert to links.



Have I done something stupid? Or is this normal? The User Guide of FM9
sucks compared with previous ones.



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Xrefs in text insets (FM9)

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I have docs with text insets and quite a lot of Xrefs. 



When I print the container doc to PDF, the Xrefs within the inset doc do
not convert to links.



Have I done something stupid? Or is this normal? The User Guide of FM9
sucks compared with previous ones.



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"10 FM Tips" free webinar -- Tuesday, Oct 13 (10am PDT)

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Any chance of making this available to those of us on GMT (i.e., not
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Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

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Amongst other things, the Apply Master Pages thingy is great when you
have a mixture of portrait and landscape pages - makes it simple to
ensure they all stay the right way round. Saved me shedloads of hassle.

 

Other stuff: spreading it across multiple screens, quicker access to
frequently-used formatting thingies, stickiness in dialogs like x-refs,
and all sorts of things which reduce the number of clicks and
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Amongst other things, the Apply Master Pages thingy is great when you
have a mixture of portrait and landscape pages - makes it simple to
ensure they all stay the right way round. Saved me shedloads of hassle.



Other stuff: spreading it across multiple screens, quicker access to
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Text inset (FM9)

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I don't know if this is a bug but I can't find anything about it
anywhere else.

 

I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an extra
carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of the
inset.

 

The only way to correct it is to delete the inset and re-import it,
which rather defeats the object. G.

 

Anyone know anything (please, please, gibber gibber)?

 

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I don't know if this is a bug but I can't find anything about it
anywhere else.



I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an extra
carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of the
inset.



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FM9 and two monitors

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I've just upped from 7 to 9, and just about got to grips with the new
interface. There's a lot of nice things that were on my wishlist, and on
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As for two monitors - absolutely. More the merrier.

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I've just upped from 7 to 9, and just about got to grips with the new
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Standard font for technical documentation

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My personal faves are Palatino for text and Arial/Helvetica for
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FM9 PDF output

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Hi All from a newbie

 

I've just migrated fom FM7.1 to 9.0.2.

 

I'm trying to output a doc containing a mixture of portrait and
landscape pages. In FM7 I used Save Book As PDF and got perfect results,
complete with bookmmarks.  FM9 produces a PDF with all pages portrait.
The only way I can find to get the correct output (with bookmarks etc)
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Hi All from a newbie



I've just migrated fom FM7.1 to 9.0.2.



I'm trying to output a doc containing a mixture of portrait and
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complete with bookmmarks.  FM9 produces a PDF with all pages portrait.
The only way I can find to get the correct output (with bookmarks etc)
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