Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecid...@zoominternet.net
It worked

reorganizing the tags did the trick

now reads

5-1029 MAY 09...Revision 001

thank you all!

eduardo

- original message -
Subject:Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC
From:   Art Campbell 
Date:   05-29-2009 16:03

Yeah, I agree, that would be the other possibility (which is why I
thew in that "may" disclaimer...).
I'm not sure what worked and what didn't in 7.2.

Art

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
>> what I'd do.
>>
>> There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
>> paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
>> order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
>> strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
>> test that.
>>
>> *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
>> start making the mods...***
>>
>
> Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a feeling
> the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the chapter file.  I
> believe that would cause the result we see now, since the TOC gets built in
> the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.
>
> If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the two
> pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then use Fred's
> run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.
>
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
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>
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>
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Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Fred Ridder

Stuart Rogers wrote:


> Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a 
> feeling the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the 
> chapter file. I believe that would cause the result we see now, since 
> the TOC gets built in the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.
> 
> If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the 
> two pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then 
> use Fred's run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.


You're exactly correct, Stuart. The TOC can only include the specified 
paragraphs in the order in which Frame finds them as it works its way through 
the text flow. If the DateRev comes before the RevNum in the text flow, that's 
the order in which they'll appear in the TOC.

It might be possible/practical to use a script to post-process the TOC, but the 
only real solution is to change the source files, if that is possible. 

-Fred Ridder






Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Art Campbell
Yeah, I agree, that would be the other possibility (which is why I
thew in that "may" disclaimer...).
I'm not sure what worked and what didn't in 7.2.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
>> what I'd do.
>>
>> There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
>> paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
>> order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
>> strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
>> test that.
>>
>> *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
>> start making the mods...***
>>
>
> Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a feeling
> the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the chapter file. ?I
> believe that would cause the result we see now, since the TOC gets built in
> the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.
>
> If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the two
> pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then use Fred's
> run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.
>
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
> "Ah, but a man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?"
>
> --with apologies to Robert Browning and the people next door
>


Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote:
> Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
> what I'd do.
> 
> There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
> paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
> order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
> strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
> test that.
> 
> *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
> start making the mods...***
> 

Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a 
feeling the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the 
chapter file.  I believe that would cause the result we see now, since 
the TOC gets built in the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.

If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the 
two pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then 
use Fred's run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Ah, but a man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?"

--with apologies to Robert Browning and the people next door


Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Art Campbell
Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
what I'd do.

There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
test that.

*** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
start making the mods...***

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
>
> I've done this kind of thing many times to pick up the name and description 
> of function calls from separate paragraphs in API documentation. It's quite 
> simple, although a bit obscure.
>
>
>
> If your two paragraphs have tags Para1 and Para2 in the text, your TOC will 
> contain paragraphs Para1TOC and Para2TOC. The key step to attaining what you 
> want is to define the Para1TOC tag to be a Run-In Head (on the Pagination tab 
> of the Paragraph Designer). On the TOC reference page of the TOC file, you'll 
> want to include the <$pagenum> building block only in the Para2TOC prototype 
> paragraph and also set an appropriate tab in the corresponding paragraph 
> format definition.
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
>
>
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
>> Subject: Difficulty Creating a TOC
>> From: ecidade at zoominternet.net
>> CC: frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com
>>
>> Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
>> First the setup: Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
>> Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
>> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number.
>> Want to make it look something like this
>> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
>> Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
>> -. . . . .. . . . .
>> Paragraph Translation:
>> -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
>> However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
>> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
>> I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
>> same line. I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
>> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
>> I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
>> putting this out there. Thank you and all the best.
>> Eduardo
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Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Fred Ridder

I've done this kind of thing many times to pick up the name and description of 
function calls from separate paragraphs in API documentation. It's quite 
simple, although a bit obscure.



If your two paragraphs have tags Para1 and Para2 in the text, your TOC will 
contain paragraphs Para1TOC and Para2TOC. The key step to attaining what you 
want is to define the Para1TOC tag to be a Run-In Head (on the Pagination tab 
of the Paragraph Designer). On the TOC reference page of the TOC file, you'll 
want to include the <$pagenum> building block only in the Para2TOC prototype 
paragraph and also set an appropriate tab in the corresponding paragraph format 
definition.

-Fred Ridder



> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
> Subject: Difficulty Creating a TOC
> From: ecidade at zoominternet.net
> CC: frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com
> 
> Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
> First the setup: Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
> Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number. 
> Want to make it look something like this
> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
> Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
> -. . . . .. . . . .
> Paragraph Translation:
> -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
> However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
> I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
> same line. I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
> I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
> putting this out there. Thank you and all the best. 
> Eduardo
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Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Lin Sims
Off the top of my head, I'd suggest making the first paragraph tag as
a run-in header.



-- 
Lin Sims


On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM,   wrote:
> ?Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
> ?First the setup: ?Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
> ?Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number.
> Want to make it look something like this
> ?10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
> ?Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
> ?-. . . . .. . . . .
> ?Paragraph Translation:
> ?-. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
> ?However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
> ?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
> ?10-5. . . . .Revision 1
> ?I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
> same line. ?I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
> ?I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
> putting this out there. ?Thank you and all the best.


Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Art Campbell
Are RevNum and DateRev paragraph tags or variables? Where's the 10-5
coming from?

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM,   wrote:
> ?Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
> ?First the setup: ?Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
> ?Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number.
> Want to make it look something like this
> ?10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
> ?Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
> ?-. . . . .. . . . .
> ?Paragraph Translation:
> ?-. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
> ?However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
> ?. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
> ?10-5. . . . .Revision 1
> ?I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
> same line. ?I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
> ?I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
> putting this out there. ?Thank you and all the best.
> ?Eduardo
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Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecid...@zoominternet.net
 Art
 Thank you.
 Yup..RevNum and DateRev are both paragraph tags.
 the 10-5 comes from the chapter and page number.apparently, when
I keyed those into my original e.mail they didn't appear (probably
because of the dollar sign) but they track like this:  - (imagine the
dollar sign.LOL
 Eduardo
 On Fri 29/05/09 11:37 , Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com sent:
 Are RevNum and DateRev paragraph tags or variables? Where's the 10-5
 coming from?
 Art
 Art Campbell
   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers
apply.
DoD
358
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM,   wrote:
 >  Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
 >  First the setup:  Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
 >  Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two
paragraph
 > tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page
number.
 > Want to make it look something like this
 >  10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
 >  Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
 >  -. . . . .. . . . .
 >  Paragraph Translation:
 >  -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
 >  However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
 >  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
 >  10-5. . . . .Revision 1
 >  I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
 > same line.  I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
 > DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
 >  I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
 > putting this out there.  Thank you and all the best.
 >  Eduardo
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2009-05-29 Thread ecid...@zoominternet.net
 I'll keep developing the content and when that's done go back and
tweak with the TOC problem
 thanks to all.and keep the suggestions coming...most
appreciated.
 On Fri 29/05/09 11:46 , Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com sent:
 Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
 what I'd do.
 There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
 paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
 order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
 strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need
to
 test that.
 *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
 start making the mods...***
 Art
 Art Campbell
   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers
apply.
DoD
358
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
 >
 > I've done this kind of thing many times to pick up the name and
description of function calls from separate paragraphs in API
documentation. It's quite simple, although a bit obscure.
 >
 >
 >
 > If your two paragraphs have tags Para1 and Para2 in the text, your
TOC will contain paragraphs Para1TOC and Para2TOC. The key step to
attaining what you want is to define the Para1TOC tag to be a Run-In
Head (on the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer). On the TOC
reference page of the TOC file, you'll want to include the  building
block only in the Para2TOC prototype paragraph and also set an
appropriate tab in the corresponding paragraph format definition.
 >
 > -Fred Ridder
 >
 >
 >
 >> To: 
 >> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
 >> Subject: Difficulty Creating a TOC
 >> From: 
 >> CC: 
 >>
 >> Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
 >> First the setup: Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
 >> Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two
paragraph
 >> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page
number.
 >> Want to make it look something like this
 >> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
 >> Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
 >> -. . . . .. . . . .
 >> Paragraph Translation:
 >> -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
 >> However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
 >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
 >> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
 >> I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
 >> same line. I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
 >> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
 >> I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
 >> putting this out there. Thank you and all the best.
 >> Eduardo
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Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecid...@zoominternet.net
 Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
 First the setup:  Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
 Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number. 
Want to make it look something like this
 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
 Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
 -. . . . .. . . . .
 Paragraph Translation:
 -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
 However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
 I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
same line.  I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
 I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
putting this out there.  Thank you and all the best.  
 Eduardo


RE: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Fred Ridder

Stuart Rogers wrote:


> Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a 
> feeling the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the 
> chapter file. I believe that would cause the result we see now, since 
> the TOC gets built in the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.
> 
> If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the 
> two pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then 
> use Fred's run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.


You're exactly correct, Stuart. The TOC can only include the specified 
paragraphs in the order in which Frame finds them as it works its way through 
the text flow. If the DateRev comes before the RevNum in the text flow, that's 
the order in which they'll appear in the TOC.

It might be possible/practical to use a script to post-process the TOC, but the 
only real solution is to change the source files, if that is possible. 

-Fred Ridder

 

 
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Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecidade
It worked

reorganizing the tags did the trick

now reads

5-1029 MAY 09...Revision 001

thank you all!

eduardo

- original message -
Subject:Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC
From:   Art Campbell 
Date:   05-29-2009 16:03

Yeah, I agree, that would be the other possibility (which is why I
thew in that "may" disclaimer...).
I'm not sure what worked and what didn't in 7.2.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
>> what I'd do.
>>
>> There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
>> paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
>> order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
>> strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
>> test that.
>>
>> *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
>> start making the mods...***
>>
>
> Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a feeling
> the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the chapter file.  I
> believe that would cause the result we see now, since the TOC gets built in
> the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.
>
> If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the two
> pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then use Fred's
> run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.
>
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
> "Ah, but a man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?"
>
> --with apologies to Robert Browning and the people next door
>


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Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Art Campbell
Yeah, I agree, that would be the other possibility (which is why I
thew in that "may" disclaimer...).
I'm not sure what worked and what didn't in 7.2.

Art

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Stuart Rogers
 wrote:
> Art Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
>> what I'd do.
>>
>> There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
>> paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
>> order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
>> strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
>> test that.
>>
>> *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
>> start making the mods...***
>>
>
> Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a feeling
> the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the chapter file.  I
> believe that would cause the result we see now, since the TOC gets built in
> the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.
>
> If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the two
> pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then use Fred's
> run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.
>
>
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Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Stuart Rogers
Art Campbell wrote:
> Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
> what I'd do.
> 
> There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
> paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
> order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
> strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
> test that.
> 
> *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
> start making the mods...***
> 

Re-ordering the strings on the ref. page *may* work, but I have a 
feeling the DateRev pgf is occurring before the RevNum pgf in the 
chapter file.  I believe that would cause the result we see now, since 
the TOC gets built in the order the pgfs are encountered in the text.

If I'm right, then the OP needs to re-arrange the content pages so the 
two pgfs occur in the order he wants to see them in the TOC, and then 
use Fred's run-in pgf setting in the designer to get them on one line.


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Re: Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecidade
 I'll keep developing the content and when that's done go back and
tweak with the TOC problem
 thanks to all.and keep the suggestions coming...most
appreciated.
 On Fri 29/05/09 11:46 , Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com sent:
 Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
 what I'd do.
 There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
 paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
 order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
 strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need
to
 test that.
 *** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
 start making the mods...***
 Art
 Art Campbell
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 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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358
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
 >
 > I've done this kind of thing many times to pick up the name and
description of function calls from separate paragraphs in API
documentation. It's quite simple, although a bit obscure.
 >
 >
 >
 > If your two paragraphs have tags Para1 and Para2 in the text, your
TOC will contain paragraphs Para1TOC and Para2TOC. The key step to
attaining what you want is to define the Para1TOC tag to be a Run-In
Head (on the Pagination tab of the Paragraph Designer). On the TOC
reference page of the TOC file, you'll want to include the  building
block only in the Para2TOC prototype paragraph and also set an
appropriate tab in the corresponding paragraph format definition.
 >
 > -Fred Ridder
 >
 >
 >
 >> To: 
 >> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
 >> Subject: Difficulty Creating a TOC
 >> From: 
 >> CC: 
 >>
 >> Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
 >> First the setup: Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
 >> Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two
paragraph
 >> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page
number.
 >> Want to make it look something like this
 >> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
 >> Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
 >> -. . . . .. . . . .
 >> Paragraph Translation:
 >> -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
 >> However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
 >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
 >> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
 >> I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
 >> same line. I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
 >> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
 >> I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
 >> putting this out there. Thank you and all the best.
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Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Art Campbell
Since those are para tags and not variables, Fred's solution is also
what I'd do.

There seems to be another problem though, in the order in which the
paratags are read in the TOC, because your example shows them out of
order. To fix that, I believe all you need to do is re-order the
strings in the Contents block on the Reference page, but you'd need to
test that.

*** You may want to make a backup copy of your TOC file before you
start making the mods...***

Art

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
>
> I've done this kind of thing many times to pick up the name and description 
> of function calls from separate paragraphs in API documentation. It's quite 
> simple, although a bit obscure.
>
>
>
> If your two paragraphs have tags Para1 and Para2 in the text, your TOC will 
> contain paragraphs Para1TOC and Para2TOC. The key step to attaining what you 
> want is to define the Para1TOC tag to be a Run-In Head (on the Pagination tab 
> of the Paragraph Designer). On the TOC reference page of the TOC file, you'll 
> want to include the <$pagenum> building block only in the Para2TOC prototype 
> paragraph and also set an appropriate tab in the corresponding paragraph 
> format definition.
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
>
>
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
>> Subject: Difficulty Creating a TOC
>> From: ecid...@zoominternet.net
>> CC: frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
>> First the setup: Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
>> Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
>> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number.
>> Want to make it look something like this
>> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
>> Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
>> -. . . . .. . . . .
>> Paragraph Translation:
>> -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
>> However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
>> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
>> I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
>> same line. I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
>> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
>> I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
>> putting this out there. Thank you and all the best.
>> Eduardo
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RE: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Fred Ridder

I've done this kind of thing many times to pick up the name and description of 
function calls from separate paragraphs in API documentation. It's quite 
simple, although a bit obscure.

 

If your two paragraphs have tags Para1 and Para2 in the text, your TOC will 
contain paragraphs Para1TOC and Para2TOC. The key step to attaining what you 
want is to define the Para1TOC tag to be a Run-In Head (on the Pagination tab 
of the Paragraph Designer). On the TOC reference page of the TOC file, you'll 
want to include the <$pagenum> building block only in the Para2TOC prototype 
paragraph and also set an appropriate tab in the corresponding paragraph format 
definition.

-Fred Ridder


 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:20:42 -0400
> Subject: Difficulty Creating a TOC
> From: ecid...@zoominternet.net
> CC: frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
> First the setup: Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
> Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number. 
> Want to make it look something like this
> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
> Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
> -. . . . .. . . . .
> Paragraph Translation:
> -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
> However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
> 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
> I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
> same line. I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
> I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
> putting this out there. Thank you and all the best. 
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Re: Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecidade
 Art
 Thank you.
 Yup..RevNum and DateRev are both paragraph tags.
 the 10-5 comes from the chapter and page number.apparently, when
I keyed those into my original e.mail they didn't appear (probably
because of the dollar sign) but they track like this:  - (imagine the
dollar sign.LOL
 Eduardo
 On Fri 29/05/09 11:37 , Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com sent:
 Are RevNum and DateRev paragraph tags or variables? Where's the 10-5
 coming from?
 Art
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 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM,   wrote:
 >  Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
 >  First the setup:  Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
 >  Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two
paragraph
 > tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page
number.
 > Want to make it look something like this
 >  10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
 >  Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
 >  -. . . . .. . . . .
 >  Paragraph Translation:
 >  -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
 >  However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
 >  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
 >  10-5. . . . .Revision 1
 >  I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
 > same line.  I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
 > DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
 >  I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
 > putting this out there.  Thank you and all the best.
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Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Lin Sims
Off the top of my head, I'd suggest making the first paragraph tag as
a run-in header.



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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM,   wrote:
>  Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
>  First the setup:  Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
>  Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number.
> Want to make it look something like this
>  10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
>  Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
>  -. . . . .. . . . .
>  Paragraph Translation:
>  -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
>  However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
>  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
>  10-5. . . . .Revision 1
>  I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
> same line.  I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
>  I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
> putting this out there.  Thank you and all the best.
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Re: Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread Art Campbell
Are RevNum and DateRev paragraph tags or variables? Where's the 10-5
coming from?

Art

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM,   wrote:
>  Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
>  First the setup:  Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
>  Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
> tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number.
> Want to make it look something like this
>  10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
>  Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
>  -. . . . .. . . . .
>  Paragraph Translation:
>  -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
>  However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
>  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
>  10-5. . . . .Revision 1
>  I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
> same line.  I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
> DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
>  I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
> putting this out there.  Thank you and all the best.
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Difficulty Creating a TOC

2009-05-29 Thread ecidade
 Good morning fellow Frame Templars:
 First the setup:  Frame 7.2 (unstructured), Windows XP
 Am attempting to formulate a TOC whereby I can display two paragraph
tags on the same line along with the associated chapter/page number. 
Want to make it look something like this
 10-5. . . . .Revision 1. . . . .01 MAY09
 Variable Translation in Reference Pages:
 -. . . . .. . . . .
 Paragraph Translation:
 -. . . . .RevNum. . . . . DateRev
 However, here's what I get when I run the TOC:
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01MAY09
 10-5. . . . .Revision 1
 I cannot seem to align or "wrap" the two paragraph tags onto the
same line.  I used a "Next Pgf Tag" for the RevNum to make the
DateRev follow it...but this one has faked me out.
 I can send the files to whoever is willing to assist.just
putting this out there.  Thank you and all the best.  
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