Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread Mike Wickham
Roger,

I recall seeing this problem on FM 7.0, although it wasn't related 
specifically to run-in heads, but to having any heading in the first 
column-- and, offhand, I can only remember it happening when the very first 
line of the first column was a heading. I can't find a document exhibiting 
the behavior right now. I am on FM8, now, and maybe it's no longer an issue. 
But I did find a note I made on solving the problem:

"Unchecking the Fixed Line Spacing checkbox fixes the column alignment 
problem, but then text containing superscripts and subscripts causes 
problems with line spacing instead."

Maybe that will help point your toward a fix, but be aware that I may have 
made other changes that affected the behavior, after I made the above note.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:16 AM
Subject: Problem with run-in heads


> I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on 
> FM
> 7.0p579.
>
> I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras
> are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in 
> heads
> are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no
> headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand
> column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to
> balance makes no difference.
>
> I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with
> automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.
>
> Any clues, anyone?
>
> All the best
>
> Roger Jones
>
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Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread Stuart Rogers
Roger Jones wrote:
> I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on FM 
> 7.0p579.
> 
> I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras 
> are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in heads 
> are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no 
> headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand 
> column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to 
> balance makes no difference.
> 
> I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with 
> automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.
> 
> Any clues, anyone?
> 

Hi Roger,

The Fixed spacing refers only to line spacing within the pgf.  Do your 
run-in heads have a larger font size, or a space above or below?  Those 
could cause a misalignment with the other column.  Adjustment of the 
space above should be able to bring them back in line.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap 
between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were 
instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish 
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Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Your post confuses me a bit. As I read it, you have two separate 
columns on the page, do you mean your master page has two columns?

If so, then the run-in headings won't work. If you are using a single 
column master page with a run-in heading and a paragraph following 
it, then Stuart's comment is correct and equalizing the font, line 
spacing, above and below spaces, should correct your problem.

Scott

At 9:16 AM +0100 9/18/08, Roger Jones wrote:
>I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on FM
>7.0p579.
>
>I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras
>are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in heads
>are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no
>headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand
>column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to
>balance makes no difference.
>
>I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with
>automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.
>
>Any clues, anyone?
>
>All the best
>
>Roger Jones
>


Re: Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread Mike Wickham
Roger,

I recall seeing this problem on FM 7.0, although it wasn't related 
specifically to run-in heads, but to having any heading in the first 
column-- and, offhand, I can only remember it happening when the very first 
line of the first column was a heading. I can't find a document exhibiting 
the behavior right now. I am on FM8, now, and maybe it's no longer an issue. 
But I did find a note I made on solving the problem:

"Unchecking the Fixed Line Spacing checkbox fixes the column alignment 
problem, but then text containing superscripts and subscripts causes 
problems with line spacing instead."

Maybe that will help point your toward a fix, but be aware that I may have 
made other changes that affected the behavior, after I made the above note.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:16 AM
Subject: Problem with run-in heads


> I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on 
> FM
> 7.0p579.
>
> I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras
> are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in 
> heads
> are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no
> headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand
> column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to
> balance makes no difference.
>
> I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with
> automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.
>
> Any clues, anyone?
>
> All the best
>
> Roger Jones
>
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Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread Roger Jones
I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on FM 
7.0p579.

I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras 
are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in heads 
are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no 
headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand 
column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to 
balance makes no difference.

I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with 
automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.

Any clues, anyone?

All the best

Roger Jones



Re: Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread quills
Your post confuses me a bit. As I read it, you have two separate 
columns on the page, do you mean your master page has two columns?

If so, then the run-in headings won't work. If you are using a single 
column master page with a run-in heading and a paragraph following 
it, then Stuart's comment is correct and equalizing the font, line 
spacing, above and below spaces, should correct your problem.

Scott

At 9:16 AM +0100 9/18/08, Roger Jones wrote:
>I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on FM
>7.0p579.
>
>I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras
>are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in heads
>are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no
>headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand
>column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to
>balance makes no difference.
>
>I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with
>automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.
>
>Any clues, anyone?
>
>All the best
>
>Roger Jones
>
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Re: Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread Stuart Rogers
Roger Jones wrote:
> I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on FM 
> 7.0p579.
> 
> I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras 
> are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in heads 
> are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no 
> headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand 
> column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to 
> balance makes no difference.
> 
> I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with 
> automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.
> 
> Any clues, anyone?
> 

Hi Roger,

The Fixed spacing refers only to line spacing within the pgf.  Do your 
run-in heads have a larger font size, or a space above or below?  Those 
could cause a misalignment with the other column.  Adjustment of the 
space above should be able to bring them back in line.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were 
instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish 
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Problem with run-in heads

2008-09-18 Thread Roger Jones
I'm glad to be back after a long absence from Framers, and I am still on FM 
7.0p579.

I have a problem with run-in headings in a double-column format. All paras 
are set to 10pt fixed and there is no line feathering, but the run-in heads 
are misaligning the baselines across columns. A page full of text with no 
headings has perfect alignment; add a run-in heading and the right-hand 
column goes out of alignment from that point onwards. Setting columns to 
balance makes no difference.

I need the run-ins because I want two paras on the same line, with 
automatic running heads picking up on one of them and not the other.

Any clues, anyone?

All the best

Roger Jones

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