RE: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
I appreciate that some you are afraid that the US will lose jobs to India and such countries. But take a bigger perspective on this, will you? If India (et.al.) are not involved with Western technology - if they don't get any hi-tech jobs and industries - how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our wealth (and jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long run. -Niels ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Niels: - how are they ever going to be able to buy American (or Danish, for - that matter) products and services? Only by sharing our - wealth (and - jobs - even if it hurts) can we all survive and thrive in the long - run. John: - Niels...a point from both sides... - - - If you can't get through the short run, the long run - doesn't matter. You're looking at it from the perspective of - the collective. - Others are looking at it from the perspective of paying - their gas and oil bill for the next 90 days and making their - kid's tuition payment on the coming first of the month. Yeah, well, I think that if we don't make it in the long run, who cares about the short run. As for the energy bills and tuition system in the US, and the welfare system in general, this is not the place to discuss that (I know what you mean, though). The US seems to be working up its trillion dollar debt on other things at the moment... - - Accept that a position should go to the best value, which - is a balance between cost and quality. Then get whatever - training you need to tip the balance in favor of quality; if - not for your current employer, one that allows you to make - the transition as quick as possible. I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Anyway - I just wanted to pitch in with a little global outlook. End of sermon! ;o) -Niels ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps, I don't think the companies that are saving money by outsourcing are necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer. I'd have to see some pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it. Anne The information contained in or attached to this e-mail contains confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail is PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail immediately. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Yes but the companies are not strictly accountable to the consumer, but rather to the shareholders. And shareholders rarely complain about greater profits. ljk ___ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/16/2006 02:02:08 PM: Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps, I don't think the companies that are saving money by outsourcing are necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer. I'd have to see some pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it. Anne The information contained in or attached to this e-mail contains confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail is PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail immediately. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers. com/mailman/options/framers/laura_j_kirk%40bd.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR RECIPIENTS IN THE U.S.A: This message may constitute an advertisement of BD group's products or services or a solicitation of interest in them. If this is such a message and you would like to opt out of receiving future advertisements or solicitations from this BD group, please forward this e-mail to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This message (which includes any attachments) is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to attorney-client privilege or other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, use, copy or distribute this message. If you received this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank You ** Corporate Headquarters Mailing Address: BD (Becton, Dickinson and Company) 1 Becton Drive Franklin Lakes, NJ 07417 U.S.A. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Bureeda opines: And I agree that I don't see a lot of profits passed on to consumers (refer to your local gas pump for more info). To me this gets us back to the original proposition, that the loss of jobs can be compensated by an increase in value. Not always of course, as one or more others argue, but in a thriving economy (like the one we're now witnessing in our off-shoring society), that's more likely than not to happen. As for profits lining owner's pockets, that's not such a bad thing when you own a share or more of the company as many of our neighbors do. That makes ownership a good thing, as more than one politician insists. Let's not lose sight of the fact that value has many meanings, one of which is the best compromise between quality and price. For given quality if the business lowers the cost, it enhances the value to the consumer. And what's wrong with benefiting consumers? ~ Bill ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Outsourcing: Was Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps, sure, but what about us writers? We won't be very appreciative of the trick if we're reduced to slinging hash at McDonalds. And if it reduces us to fry cooks, you'd be hard pressed to convince us it *isn't* an evil. I argue that if you are reduced to slinging hash then you didn't do your due diligence to keep yourself marketable and desirable. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
