Re: Text flow oddity

2007-12-21 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Grant:

Search Google for framemaker text flow, framemaker parallel text
flows, and similar terms. There was a discussion of the problem on one
of the public FM lists or forums. One issue was that the old method of
incorporating a tiny frame of one or the other flow on left or right
master pages no longer worked. I'm not sure if the change occurred in
FM 6 or 7, or if this applies to your problem, but it's worth a bit of
search time. Perhaps other relevant topics will result.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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Text flow oddity

2007-12-21 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Grant:

Search Google for framemaker text flow, framemaker parallel text
flows, and similar terms. There was a discussion of the problem on one
of the public FM lists or forums. One issue was that the old method of
incorporating a tiny frame of one or the other flow on left or right
master pages no longer worked. I'm not sure if the change occurred in
FM 6 or 7, or if this applies to your problem, but it's worth a bit of
search time. Perhaps other relevant topics will result.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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RE: Text flow oddity

2007-12-20 Thread Grant Hogarth
Thanks Richard et al ---

Yes, Text Symbols and Borders are displayed.
Yes, Page 2 has a end of flow symbol at the top of the generated
column.
Paras are the same in both flows. Start anywhere, no frames, one widow,
no KWN.
Deleting the 2nd page and regenerating does not solve the problem
(although it does trim the static list!)
Dynamic document was created from standard FM 7.1 TOC option.
Source doc and dynamic doc are both single sided.

This *is* replicable --- I have even deleted the generated files and
started over, suspecting corruption.

I would be happy to send the pair of files (63k zipped) to anyone that
wants to look. 
(The only change is that I've stripped the table contents -- that does
not change the outcome.)

Cheers!


-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:22 AM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Text flow oddity

Grant Hogarth wrote:

 I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
 I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in 
 parallel columns.
 Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same 
 for this issue).
 Flow B is a pasted text list.
 Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each 
 item in the pasted list.
 
 Problem
 When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, 
 with the two text flows running in parallel. The problem 
 comes on the following pages.
 The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
 However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins 
 flowing again on page 3.
 
 Both flows are set to autoconnect.

I hope you work with text symbols and borders displayed; if not, go to
the View menu and turn both on. Now look at page 2 (the page that Flow A
skips). Does the text frame in which Flow A should be actually exist?

If not, my first guess is that don't really have a single-sided doc, and
the Left master page is missing the text frame for Flow A. Go to Format
 Page Layout  Pagination to check. Or View  Master Pages.

If page 2 has the empty text frame, is there an end-of-flow symbol at
the top? If so, the text frame isn't connected to the flow. I'm not sure
how that would happen in Flow A, but not B (if you added a disconnected
page, both text frames would be disconnected). 

Once again, though, I'd suspect that you really have a 2-sided doc with
a messed-up Left master page. If that's not the case, try just deleting
page 2 (Special  Delete Pages). If you just have something messed up on
that one page, that should fix it -- page 3 will become page 2, a new
page 3 will be added, and both flows will just, um, reflow. 

HTH!
Richard


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Text flow oddity

2007-12-19 Thread Grant Hogarth
I've got an odd one
I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in parallel
columns.
Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same for this
issue).
Flow B is a pasted text list.
Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each item in the
pasted list.

Problem
When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, with the two
text flows running in parallel. The problem comes on the following
pages.
The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins flowing again on
page 3.

Both flows are set to autoconnect.

Suggestions???

Grant


 
Grant Hogarth
Senior Technical Writer
Equis International - A Reuters Company

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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
URL: www.equis.com  TZ: Mountain (GMT +7) 

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Text flow oddity

2007-12-19 Thread Combs, Richard
Grant Hogarth wrote:

> I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
> I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in 
> parallel columns.
> Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same 
> for this issue).
> Flow B is a pasted text list.
> Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each 
> item in the pasted list.
> 
> Problem
> When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, 
> with the two text flows running in parallel. The problem 
> comes on the following pages.
> The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
> However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins 
> flowing again on page 3.
> 
> Both flows are set to autoconnect.

I hope you work with text symbols and borders displayed; if not, go to
the View menu and turn both on. Now look at page 2 (the page that Flow A
skips). Does the text frame in which Flow A should be actually exist?

If not, my first guess is that don't really have a single-sided doc, and
the Left master page is missing the text frame for Flow A. Go to Format
> Page Layout > Pagination to check. Or View > Master Pages.

If page 2 has the empty text frame, is there an end-of-flow symbol at
the top? If so, the text frame isn't connected to the flow. I'm not sure
how that would happen in Flow A, but not B (if you added a disconnected
page, both text frames would be disconnected). 

Once again, though, I'd suspect that you really have a 2-sided doc with
a messed-up Left master page. If that's not the case, try just deleting
page 2 (Special > Delete Pages). If you just have something messed up on
that one page, that should fix it -- page 3 will become page 2, a new
page 3 will be added, and both flows will just, um, reflow. 

HTH!
Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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Text flow oddity

2007-12-19 Thread Grant Hogarth
Thanks Richard et al ---

Yes, Text Symbols and Borders are displayed.
Yes, Page 2 has a "end of flow" symbol at the top of the "generated"
column.
Paras are the same in both flows. Start anywhere, no frames, one widow,
no KWN.
Deleting the 2nd page and regenerating does not solve the problem
(although it does trim the static list!)
Dynamic document was created from standard FM 7.1 TOC option.
Source doc and dynamic doc are both single sided.

This *is* replicable --- I have even deleted the generated files and
started over, suspecting corruption.

I would be happy to send the pair of files (63k zipped) to anyone that
wants to look. 
(The only change is that I've stripped the table contents -- that does
not change the outcome.)

Cheers!


-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:22 AM
To: Grant Hogarth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Text flow oddity

Grant Hogarth wrote:

> I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
> I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in 
> parallel columns.
> Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same 
> for this issue).
> Flow B is a pasted text list.
> Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each 
> item in the pasted list.
> 
> Problem
> When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, 
> with the two text flows running in parallel. The problem 
> comes on the following pages.
> The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
> However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins 
> flowing again on page 3.
> 
> Both flows are set to autoconnect.

I hope you work with text symbols and borders displayed; if not, go to
the View menu and turn both on. Now look at page 2 (the page that Flow A
skips). Does the text frame in which Flow A should be actually exist?

If not, my first guess is that don't really have a single-sided doc, and
the Left master page is missing the text frame for Flow A. Go to Format
> Page Layout > Pagination to check. Or View > Master Pages.

If page 2 has the empty text frame, is there an end-of-flow symbol at
the top? If so, the text frame isn't connected to the flow. I'm not sure
how that would happen in Flow A, but not B (if you added a disconnected
page, both text frames would be disconnected). 

Once again, though, I'd suspect that you really have a 2-sided doc with
a messed-up Left master page. If that's not the case, try just deleting
page 2 (Special > Delete Pages). If you just have something messed up on
that one page, that should fix it -- page 3 will become page 2, a new
page 3 will be added, and both flows will just, um, reflow. 

HTH!
Richard


--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--







Text flow oddity

2007-12-18 Thread Grant Hogarth
I've got an odd one
I'm running FM 7.1/Win XP
I'm generating a single-sided document with two text flows in parallel
columns.
Flow A is generated list (LOP or TOC, both behave the same for this
issue).
Flow B is a pasted text list.
Basically I'm making sure that I've got a heading for each item in the
pasted list.

Problem
When I regenerate the list, Page one behaves as expected, with the two
text flows running in parallel. The problem comes on the following
pages.
The Pasted list (Flow B) runs onto the following page normally.
However, the Generated list *skips* a page, and begins flowing again on
page 3.

Both flows are set to autoconnect.

Suggestions???

Grant


 
Grant Hogarth
Senior Technical Writer
Equis International - A Reuters Company

+1 801 270 3180 (t) | +1 801 815 8353 (m) | +1 801 265 3999 (f) 

Email: grant.hogarth at reuters.com 
URL: www.equis.com  TZ: Mountain (GMT +7) 

Reuters news and information reaches one billion people every day. Get
the latest news at Reuters.com