Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-22 Thread Shmuel Wolfson 
If you recreate it in Visio or PowerPoint and save it as an EMF, it will 
come out as clear as text in the PDF (or print). It definitely takes 
more time than a screen capture though.


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On 20-May-16 7:05 PM, Lin Sims wrote:

One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above the
letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but again,
the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough to the letter
that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using repositioning to
move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find anything like that in
the character sets (still looking).

Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes to
worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort of
workaround. It feels sloppy.



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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-21 Thread Ed Nodland 
I haven't been following this thread, so this might have been suggested
already.  Have you tried http://graphemica.com/%C5%B4 latin capital letter
W with circumflex (U+0174)? or using Alt and the arrow keys to adjust the
kerning?  Here is an image of W^θ after adjusting the font and the kerning.

[image: Inline image 1]

Ed Nodland
San Diego Data Services



On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 20 May 2016 at 12:05, Lin Sims wrote:
>
> > One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need
> to
> > reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W
> > with what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left
> > angle bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over
> the
> > W. It is VERY visible.
>
> Lin, I encountered same problems years ago when teaching FM at the
> Technical
> University in Zurich (ETH).
> You may have a look at my 'solution' on
> http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker15.html
>
> HTH Klaus Daube
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-21 Thread Klaus Daube 
On 20 May 2016 at 12:05, Lin Sims wrote:

> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
> reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W
> with what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left
> angle bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the
> W. It is VERY visible.

Lin, I encountered same problems years ago when teaching FM at the Technical 
University in Zurich (ETH).
You may have a look at my 'solution' on http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker15.html

HTH Klaus Daube
~~
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Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch

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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Lin Sims 
Oh, this looks VERY useful. Thanks for this. Also to Klaus for keeping a
copy around.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> This might help, though it sounds like maybe there's a bug in FM.
>
> http://www.daube.ch/docu/files/FrameLaTeXTemplate.pdf
>
> How about rendering the Word formula to PDF and inserting that as an image?
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> > Can't get a new tool. Can't get a new font, either. I did try the
> > diacritical marks on the Equation palette, that was the "too small and
> too
> > high". I also tried using FrameMaker's Character Palette; that was the
> "too
> > small, so close it got lost in the rest of the actual character."
> >
> > I _believe_ the W is the standard representation of this quantity.
> >
> > If the attached .png comes through, you can see what I need to create.
>



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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Robert Lauriston 
This might help, though it sounds like maybe there's a bug in FM.

http://www.daube.ch/docu/files/FrameLaTeXTemplate.pdf

How about rendering the Word formula to PDF and inserting that as an image?

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:
> Can't get a new tool. Can't get a new font, either. I did try the
> diacritical marks on the Equation palette, that was the "too small and too
> high". I also tried using FrameMaker's Character Palette; that was the "too
> small, so close it got lost in the rest of the actual character."
>
> I _believe_ the W is the standard representation of this quantity.
>
> If the attached .png comes through, you can see what I need to create.
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Lin Sims 
It is an estimated value hat over a W matrix.

I think I'll grab a screenshot, assuming our corporate style standards
allow, and I believe they do.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:28 PM, William Saylor <wsay...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Alan,
> I feel your pain. If you have to do this a lot MathType is not very
> expensive and easy to use in FM (either OLE or MathML).  IMHO it is
> becoming
> the most widely used equation editor for hundreds of applications.
> I assume you are adding the "estimated value" hat over a W matrix.
> The MT output to me looks better than anything else I have seen.
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wsaylor=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:03 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation
>
> My preference is to use TeX/LaTeX to produce a pdf of the equation. To be
> honest, I never really had a lot of joy with Frame's equation editor and
> the
> output from TeX is far superior to most other tools.
>
> You can make your learning curve shallower by using one of the many online
> LaTeX equation tools. They all do pretty much the same thing because they
> all use pretty much the same binaries to do it with.
>
> Without thorough testing, this tool seems to provide what I would be
> looking
> for (direct input of TeX code, pdf output, some examples):
> https://www.latex4technics.com
>
> Here is where you can learn about writing the code:
> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Mathematics
>
> Here is a link to all the symbols you might want (all 14032 of them)
> http://tug.ctan.org/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
> Go to page 100 to find the hat code and other diacritics. e.g. \hat{W} vs
> \mathring{W} or \bar{a}
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 21/05/16 4:05 am, Lin Sims wrote:
> > One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I
> > need to reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a
> > capital W with what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look
> > like a left angle bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been
> > placed over the W. It is VERY visible.
> >
> > I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
> > editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above
> > the letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but
> > again, the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough
> > to the letter that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using
> > repositioning to move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find
> > anything like that in the character sets (still looking).
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes
> > to worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort
> > of workaround. It feels sloppy.
> >
>
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain 
I totally agree with Alan!

LaTeX is unsurpassed in this math and "formula" capability - highly general 
purpose. You can easily create the entire math "text' and formulas you need - 
with a little bit of a learning curve - and then create a PDF of that for use 
elsewhere.

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-
> bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan
> Litchfield
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 01:03 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation
> 
> My preference is to use TeX/LaTeX to produce a pdf of the equation. To be 
> honest, I never really had a lot of joy with Frame's equation editor and the 
> output from TeX is far superior to most other tools.
> 
> You can make your learning curve shallower by using one of the many online 
> LaTeX equation tools. They all do pretty much the same thing because they all 
> use pretty much the same binaries to do it with.
> 
> Without thorough testing, this tool seems to provide what I would be looking 
> for (direct input of TeX code, pdf output, some examples): 
> https://www.latex4technics.com
> 
> Here is where you can learn about writing the code: 
> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Mathematics
> 
> Here is a link to all the symbols you might want (all 14032 of them) 
> http://tug.ctan.org/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
> Go to page 100 to find the hat code and other diacritics. e.g. \hat{W} vs 
> \mathring{W} or \bar{a}
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 21/05/16 4:05 am, Lin Sims wrote:
> > One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I
> > need to reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a
> > capital W with what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look
> > like a left angle bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been
> > placed over the W. It is VERY visible.
> >
> > I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
> > editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above
> > the letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but
> > again, the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough
> > to the letter that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using
> > repositioning to move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find
> > anything like that in the character sets (still looking).
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes
> > to worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort
> > of workaround. It feels sloppy.
> >
> 
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> Auckland, New Zealand 1140
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread William Saylor 
Alan,
I feel your pain. If you have to do this a lot MathType is not very
expensive and easy to use in FM (either OLE or MathML).  IMHO it is becoming
the most widely used equation editor for hundreds of applications.
I assume you are adding the "estimated value" hat over a W matrix.
The MT output to me looks better than anything else I have seen.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+wsaylor=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:03 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

My preference is to use TeX/LaTeX to produce a pdf of the equation. To be
honest, I never really had a lot of joy with Frame's equation editor and the
output from TeX is far superior to most other tools.

You can make your learning curve shallower by using one of the many online
LaTeX equation tools. They all do pretty much the same thing because they
all use pretty much the same binaries to do it with.

Without thorough testing, this tool seems to provide what I would be looking
for (direct input of TeX code, pdf output, some examples):
https://www.latex4technics.com

Here is where you can learn about writing the code:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Mathematics

Here is a link to all the symbols you might want (all 14032 of them)
http://tug.ctan.org/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
Go to page 100 to find the hat code and other diacritics. e.g. \hat{W} vs
\mathring{W} or \bar{a}

Alan


On 21/05/16 4:05 am, Lin Sims wrote:
> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I 
> need to reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a 
> capital W with what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look 
> like a left angle bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been 
> placed over the W. It is VERY visible.
>
> I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation 
> editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above 
> the letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but 
> again, the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough 
> to the letter that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using 
> repositioning to move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find 
> anything like that in the character sets (still looking).
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes 
> to worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort 
> of workaround. It feels sloppy.
>

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PO Box 1941
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Alan Litchfield 
My preference is to use TeX/LaTeX to produce a pdf of the equation. To 
be honest, I never really had a lot of joy with Frame's equation editor 
and the output from TeX is far superior to most other tools.


You can make your learning curve shallower by using one of the many 
online LaTeX equation tools. They all do pretty much the same thing 
because they all use pretty much the same binaries to do it with.


Without thorough testing, this tool seems to provide what I would be 
looking for (direct input of TeX code, pdf output, some examples):

https://www.latex4technics.com

Here is where you can learn about writing the code:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Mathematics

Here is a link to all the symbols you might want (all 14032 of them)
http://tug.ctan.org/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols-a4.pdf
Go to page 100 to find the hat code and other diacritics. e.g. \hat{W}
vs \mathring{W} or \bar{a}

Alan


On 21/05/16 4:05 am, Lin Sims wrote:

One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above the
letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but again,
the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough to the letter
that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using repositioning to
move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find anything like that in
the character sets (still looking).

Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes to
worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort of
workaround. It feels sloppy.



--
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AlphaByte
PO Box 1941
Auckland, New Zealand 1140
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Lin Sims 
Can't get a new tool. Can't get a new font, either. I did try the
diacritical marks on the Equation palette, that was the "too small and too
high". I also tried using FrameMaker's Character Palette; that was the "too
small, so close it got lost in the rest of the actual character."

I _believe_ the W is the standard representation of this quantity.

If the attached .png comes through, you can see what I need to create.

[image: Inline image 1]

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Umm, what you say about Word's equation editor is not entirely accurate.
> Microsoft used to use a reduced version of MathType as Word's built in
> equation editor; but as of Word 2007, the default equation editor is a
> brand-new tool, developed in-house by Microsoft. The old MathType-based
> editor is supported primarily to render legacy equations.
>
> -FR
>
> 
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com>
> on behalf of Craig W. Johnson <c...@well.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation
>
> The unicode code for combining (i.e. zero-width) circumflex is hex 0302,
> and it should follow the character it appears above. If you don't have a
> unicode entry method handy, using Frame's replace function - "W" with
> "W\u0302" - will get you the code, BUT, you need the circumflex to be
> declared in a font that will show the code (Times New Roman or Arial both
> work). You'll still need to do some fussing with changing the spread of the
> W, and moving the mark vertically.
>
> I set a lot of books with a lot of math, and rather than mess with
> FrameMaker's editor, or continually potschke things together by hand, I
> rely on MathType, which will produce any number of outputs, including EPS
> and bitmap formats. It saves a lot of time because it's a superset of
> Word's equation editor, and usually Word equations import seamlessly (or at
> least more reliably than much else imports from Word). You can also specify
> something akin to named stylesheets for font and positioning in equations
> (so you can have, say, separate styles for text equations and table
> equations), and support for micro-positioning is good. It also has support
> for TeX, which is another option here, but setting that up and using it
> makes Frame's learning curve look like a walk in the park.
>
> Of course, using any auxiliary app will also gives you a bunch of graphics
> files to keep track of, but if your math is at all complicated it's
> probably worthwhile.
>
> MathType for Windows costs around $100 and may be downloaded as a 30-day
> unfettered demo from <
> http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/default.htm>. It's also
> available in a strong Mac version, for those (like me) who prefer running
> Frame using a VM.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Craig Johnson
> Remex Publishing
>
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Fred Ridder 
Umm, what you say about Word's equation editor is not entirely accurate. 
Microsoft used to use a reduced version of MathType as Word's built in equation 
editor; but as of Word 2007, the default equation editor is a brand-new tool, 
developed in-house by Microsoft. The old MathType-based editor is supported 
primarily to render legacy equations.

-FR


From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Craig W. Johnson <c...@well.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

The unicode code for combining (i.e. zero-width) circumflex is hex 0302, and it 
should follow the character it appears above. If you don't have a unicode entry 
method handy, using Frame's replace function - "W" with "W\u0302" - will get 
you the code, BUT, you need the circumflex to be declared in a font that will 
show the code (Times New Roman or Arial both work). You'll still need to do 
some fussing with changing the spread of the W, and moving the mark vertically.

I set a lot of books with a lot of math, and rather than mess with FrameMaker's 
editor, or continually potschke things together by hand, I rely on MathType, 
which will produce any number of outputs, including EPS and bitmap formats. It 
saves a lot of time because it's a superset of Word's equation editor, and 
usually Word equations import seamlessly (or at least more reliably than much 
else imports from Word). You can also specify something akin to named 
stylesheets for font and positioning in equations (so you can have, say, 
separate styles for text equations and table equations), and support for 
micro-positioning is good. It also has support for TeX, which is another option 
here, but setting that up and using it makes Frame's learning curve look like a 
walk in the park.

Of course, using any auxiliary app will also gives you a bunch of graphics 
files to keep track of, but if your math is at all complicated it's probably 
worthwhile.

MathType for Windows costs around $100 and may be downloaded as a 30-day 
unfettered demo from <http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/default.htm>. 
It's also available in a strong Mac version, for those (like me) who prefer 
running Frame using a VM.

Hope this helps.

Craig Johnson
Remex Publishing


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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Craig W. Johnson 
The unicode code for combining (i.e. zero-width) circumflex is hex 0302, and it 
should follow the character it appears above. If you don't have a unicode entry 
method handy, using Frame's replace function - "W" with "W\u0302" - will get 
you the code, BUT, you need the circumflex to be declared in a font that will 
show the code (Times New Roman or Arial both work). You'll still need to do 
some fussing with changing the spread of the W, and moving the mark vertically.

I set a lot of books with a lot of math, and rather than mess with FrameMaker's 
editor, or continually potschke things together by hand, I rely on MathType, 
which will produce any number of outputs, including EPS and bitmap formats. It 
saves a lot of time because it's a superset of Word's equation editor, and 
usually Word equations import seamlessly (or at least more reliably than much 
else imports from Word). You can also specify something akin to named 
stylesheets for font and positioning in equations (so you can have, say, 
separate styles for text equations and table equations), and support for 
micro-positioning is good. It also has support for TeX, which is another option 
here, but setting that up and using it makes Frame's learning curve look like a 
walk in the park.

Of course, using any auxiliary app will also gives you a bunch of graphics 
files to keep track of, but if your math is at all complicated it's probably 
worthwhile.

MathType for Windows costs around $100 and may be downloaded as a 30-day 
unfettered demo from <http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathtype/default.htm>. 
It's also available in a strong Mac version, for those (like me) who prefer 
running Frame using a VM.

Hope this helps.

Craig Johnson
Remex Publishing

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From: "Lin Sims" <ljsims...@gmail.com>
To: "Frame Users" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:05:32 AM
Subject: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above the
letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but again,
the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough to the letter
that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using repositioning to
move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find anything like that in
the character sets (still looking).

Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes to
worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort of
workaround. It feels sloppy.

-- 
Lin Sims
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Patrick Edwards 

I'm an idiot who didn't read for comprehension, you said you already tried 
that, apologies. 

Patrick 


>>> "Patrick Edwards"  5/20/2016 11:20 AM >>>

That sounds like "latin capital letter w with circumflex":

Unicode Character 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH CIRCUMFLEX' (U+0174)
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0174/index.htm

Just use the character palette to insert this character using a typeface 
containing this glyph, such as Times New Roman or Arial Unicode MS.


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International Ocean Discovery Program
JOIDES Resolution Science Operator
Texas A University
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College Station TX  77845-9547
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>>> "Monique Semp"  5/20/2016 11:13 AM >>>
> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

Do you mean a "W" with a caret? If the equation would still be valid (that
is, "W" is arbitrary, not denoting a specific entity that's normally denoted
by "W"), FrameMaker has symbols for all the vowels-with-carets:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff0.html.

I haven't yet found how to add the caret to non-vowels...

-Monique


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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Patrick Edwards 

That sounds like "latin capital letter w with circumflex": 

Unicode Character 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH CIRCUMFLEX' (U+0174) 
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0174/index.htm 

Just use the character palette to insert this character using a typeface 
containing this glyph, such as Times New Roman or Arial Unicode MS. 


Patrick H. Edwards
Production Editor and Web Administrator
International Ocean Discovery Program
JOIDES Resolution Science Operator 
Texas A University
1000 Discovery Drive
College Station TX  77845-9547
979 845 1199
edwa...@iodp.tamu.edu


>>> "Monique Semp"  5/20/2016 11:13 AM >>>
> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

Do you mean a "W" with a caret? If the equation would still be valid (that
is, "W" is arbitrary, not denoting a specific entity that's normally denoted
by "W"), FrameMaker has symbols for all the vowels-with-carets:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff0.html.

I haven't yet found how to add the caret to non-vowels...

-Monique


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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread M Lee 
Hi Lin Monique,

If you are creating an equation using the Equations Editor, you can add the
"hat" as a diacritical mark to an equation entity.

Hope this helps.

Martha

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Monique Semp 
wrote:

> One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
>>
> reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
> what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
> bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
> is VERY visible.
>
> Do you mean a "W" with a caret? If the equation would still be valid (that
> is, "W" is arbitrary, not denoting a specific entity that's normally
> denoted by "W"), FrameMaker has symbols for all the vowels-with-carets:
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff0.html
> .
>
> I haven't yet found how to add the caret to non-vowels...
>
> -Monique
>
>
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Re: [Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Monique Semp 

One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to

reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

Do you mean a "W" with a caret? If the equation would still be valid (that 
is, "W" is arbitrary, not denoting a specific entity that's normally denoted 
by "W"), FrameMaker has symbols for all the vowels-with-carets: 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ff0.html.


I haven't yet found how to add the caret to non-vowels...

-Monique


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[Framers] I need a "hat" in an equation

2016-05-20 Thread Lin Sims 
One of my engineers gave me a Word document that has an equation I need to
reproduce in Frame. One of the letters in that equation is a capital W with
what Word describes as a "hat". Essentially, it look like a left angle
bracket rotated 90 degrees to point up that has been placed over the W. It
is VERY visible.

I cannot figure out how to reproduce it. I've tried using the equation
editor's diacritic marks, but the mark is too small and too high above the
letter. I've tried using the W-character-with-the-circumflex, but again,
the mark is too small to see, and this time it's close enough to the letter
that it's hard to distinguish it. I thought about using repositioning to
move a larger angle over the letter, but I can't find anything like that in
the character sets (still looking).

Anyone have any ideas? Getting MathML isn't an option. If worse comes to
worst, I'll screenshot the bloody thing, but I hate doing that sort of
workaround. It feels sloppy.

-- 
Lin Sims
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