Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-08 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 1:05 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-08 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's a good point. For multiple writers to work on the same document, it needs to be split into multiple files. Though in that case you might better migrate from FrameMaker to something that was designed for collaboration. On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Craig, Alison

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-08 Thread Craig, Alison
.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 10:55 AM To: 'Lin Sims'; 'Frame Users' Subject: Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book Hi Lin, No question in my mind: Separate files for each chapter, mainly because it ea

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-08 Thread Rick Quatro
PS: The only time FrameMaker did not work well was when I imported a multiterm database export file (as xml via structured application). I had to split up the original xml into 3 parts, and although this was only text, it took FrameMaker more than one hour to open one of the parts (as the

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-08 Thread Heiko Haida
Hi Lin, we are producing multi-lingual FM books out of an XML-CMS, so we do not have to handle the FM files for editorial purposes. I prefer the single file (per language), because we often had problems with the left/right pagination rules and special left/right masterpages for the start of

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread louisek
t; <poshe...@bellsouth.net>, "Steve Rickaby" <srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk>, "Rick Quatro" <r...@rickquatro.com> Cc: "Frame Users" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 1:13:31 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: S

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
I thought you were talking about separate .fm files for ease of generating separate PDFs. Otherwise, individual .fm files for each chapter seem to me like a relic of the days when computers didn't have enough memory to handle a whole book. If you have to embed the graphics, that might be a

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Lin Sims
The book PDFs usually run in the 3-10MB range. Individual chapters in FM format can run up to 30MB or more. And as Rick said, we're talking about a single FM file per chapter in a book, then generating a single PDF for the book, not separate PDFs for each chapter. (I wish we could reference

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 2:44 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book I always do one file, unless it gets so big

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread grant
Monday, November 07, 2016 1:46 PM To: Frame Users Subject: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book Pretty much what it says in the title. I'm guessing there have been discussions about this in the past, and I plan to look for

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Robert Lauriston
I always do one file, unless it gets so big that there are download problems. Then everything can be cross-referenced. You can have cross-PDF links, but they're more problematic. As a user, I always find it frustrating when large documents are split up. How big is the file if you generate one big

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Steve Rickaby
Going public on this... I think the question is, what would be the advantages of putting multiple chapters in a single document? FrameMaker has supported the 'book' concept almost from the get-go: why on earth would you not want to use it? (I am ever-open to suggestions ;-) -- Steve

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Ed Nodland
Also beneficial for multiple editors working on the same book in different chapters and configuration control when one chapter is changed often and others rarely change. I also have other elements such as large tables that are maintained externally or commonly used content managed as external

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Lin Sims
I think I touched a nerve. Yeah, my personal inclination is one chapter per file, unless we're talking a really short document of less than 20 pages. Nice to know that I'm not alone; however, I'm really looking for reasons why using a chapter per file is better than using one file for an entire

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Ken Poshedly
Lin, We also use unstructured FM11.0 to produce files that are distilled down to pdf files for hard copy printing (and maybe distribution on CD, but not so much). As such, we compile separate chapter files then assemble them into a final book in FM. Much more manageable that way (at least for

Re: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-366-4017 -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:46 PM To: Frame Users Subject: [Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter

[Framers] Pros/Cons: Separate file per chapter, or one REALLY BIG FILE for an entire book

2016-11-07 Thread Lin Sims
Pretty much what it says in the title. I'm guessing there have been discussions about this in the past, and I plan to look for those, but I thought I'd toss this out there anyway. We're talking chapters that can run a couple hundred (or more) pages loaded with tables, graphics, and conditional