Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Lauriston
I think FrameMaker's docs are the least bad of all the authoring tools I've used or evaluated. Their biggest weakness is often complete lack of coverage of higher-level tasks. E.g. there are no templates in the usual sense, so how do you work around that? The sample files they've provided not only

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Sharp, Amy
> My personal feeling is that documentation from Adobe has declined, and is > threatening to approach the Microsoft level. I think Microsoft has a leg up on Adobe docs, albeit a skinny leg. Even before Adobe bought the company, FM docs were, shall we say, less than robust. They remind me of op

RE: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Craig Ede
I'd have to say I agree with Ed here, rather than Scott. Craig Ede > Subject: Re: A giggle from the Adobe website > From: qui...@airmail.net > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:51:10 -0500 > To: enodl...@gmail.com > CC: framers@lists.frameusers.co

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Scott Turner
My personal feeling is that documentation from Adobe has declined, and is threatening to approach the Microsoft level. > On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:09, Ed Nodland wrote: > > I get it now. All this time they thought I was not using Framemaker. From > wiki: "An end user of a computer system or so

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Ed Nodland
I get it now. All this time they thought I was not using Framemaker. From wiki: "An end user of a computer system or software is someone who uses it." I will let them know I am an end-user. That could explain why we get answers that a

Re: pear shaped RE: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Lin Sims
Too late! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > I thought it was the fear of all technical writers that over the years > working at a desk we all will go pear shaped. (Heads up! This is not an > irrational fear!) > > C- > > > > ___ > > >

RE: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Craig Ede
Given the amount of noise on this list about how the interface to FM is inadequate, I would think there would be a raft of end-users out there willing to sign on for this. Craig BTW: I am quite happy to be working in FM12. It's not perfect, but better than any of the previous versions I've used (a

pear shaped RE: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-28 Thread Craig Ede
I thought it was the fear of all technical writers that over the years working at a desk we all will go pear shaped. (Heads up! This is not an irrational fear!) C- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Writer
>If I confess to be a FrameMaker end user, what else might be inferred about me? /Peter That you use FrameMaker ends? I mean...come on...it's not like orking cows, eh? Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Writer
To quote Joss Whedon, "I have a theory..." Actually, it's Wikipedia's theory, not mine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear-shaped Nadine From: Lin Sims To: Helen Borrie Cc: Frame Users Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:31 PM Subject: R

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Lin Sims
Why do things go pear-shaped? Why not rhombus-shaped, or even watermelon-shaped? Or artichoke--then you get an odd shaped that's all prickly, too. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: > Pat Christenson wrote: > > I was visiting Adobe's website earlier and noticed that when you si

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Helen Borrie
Pat Christenson wrote: I was visiting Adobe's website earlier and noticed that when you sign up, you have to make a choice from the list of Job Titles. One of the choices is End User. Really? That's a job title? ;-) At 07:19 a.m. 28/10/2014, Writer wrote: >It's a dirty job, but someone's got

Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Writer
It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. I hear the pay sucks, too. Nadine From: "Christenson, Pat" To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: A giggle from the Adobe website

A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Christenson, Pat
I was visiting Adobe's website earlier and noticed that when you sign up, you have to make a choice from the list of Job Titles. One of the choices is End User. Really? That's a job title? ;-) Pat Christenson Resource Coordinator Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications pchristen...@ftportfolios