Re: Adding graphics in a reference page
Larry: I've used Art's approach of a graphic in the left cell of a 1-line, 2-cell table as well. If you need to sell it, mention that it offers a couple of advantages over a paragraph format-based approach, to wit: you carry a lot fewer tags in the p-tag menu, which is a plus for usability (you can use one standard paragraph format for all these callouts, or even adopt one from your table or body paragraph formats) and you get to have full paragraph breaks in your Note/Tip/Warning/Caution cells, in case you need to get verbose. It's no more work than using a paragraph to do the job, and in my opinion looks and works better. If you are stuck with the paragraph-based approach, I would recommend you manipulate the graphic. It sounds to me as if you may have some excess white space around the graphics. Careful pruning of the original graphic in a photo manipulation program (use GIMP if you can't afford Photoshop) may yield positive results. --William Art Campbell wrote: An easier way to do this may be to create a 1-row, two-cell table. The left cell holds a unique tag that only calls the graphic on the reference page with Frame Above or Below. The right cell holds the warning/note/whatever text. The table will let you adjust more finely because now you have cell margins and spaces to use to adjust the graphic's position. Art On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Larry Kovnerla...@kovner.net wrote: Hi: I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to appear (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these tags. I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page of the chapter tempate. In Paragraph Designer, when I select Frame Above Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border works the way I need it to. For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, I imported the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. It works. The problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so that is is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image is too high above the text, which creates too much space. I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I need. Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually add the graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. Looking for some advice. Thanks, Larry ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adding graphics in a reference page
Larry, We use the 1-row, 2-celled table method that Art described and it works well in both unstructured and structured FM. See pages 1-8, 1-9, 1-17, and the reference page in the attached file. However, there is a gotcha when using the TCS to import files into RH. The graphics are missing from the cell in RH because graphics on the reference page are not mapped into RH. We have not found an acceptable workaround for this yet. Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems == -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:32 PM To: Larry Kovner Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Adding graphics in a reference page An easier way to do this may be to create a 1-row, two-cell table. The left cell holds a unique tag that only calls the graphic on the reference page with Frame Above or Below. The right cell holds the warning/note/whatever text. The table will let you adjust more finely because now you have cell margins and spaces to use to adjust the graphic's position. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Larry Kovnerla...@kovner.net wrote: Hi: I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to appear (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these tags. I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page of the chapter tempate. In Paragraph Designer, when I select Frame Above Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border works the way I need it to. For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, I imported the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. It works. The problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so that is is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image is too high above the text, which creates too much space. I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I need. Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually add the graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. Looking for some advice. Thanks, Larry ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcal...@earthlink.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adding graphics in a reference page
I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. I don't recall if anyone else mentioned this, but another option is to set up these items and use the Auto-Text plugin to insert them into the document as needed. This method can be more flexible than using reference pages. It's a great plugin and cheap! Find it here: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adding graphics in a reference page
Larry: I've used Art's approach of a graphic in the left cell of a 1-line, 2-cell table as well. If you need to sell it, mention that it offers a couple of advantages over a paragraph format-based approach, to wit: you carry a lot fewer tags in the p-tag menu, which is a plus for usability (you can use one standard paragraph format for all these callouts, or even adopt one from your table or body paragraph formats) and you get to have full paragraph breaks in your Note/Tip/Warning/Caution cells, in case you need to get verbose. It's no more work than using a paragraph to do the job, and in my opinion looks and works better. If you are stuck with the paragraph-based approach, I would recommend you manipulate the graphic. It sounds to me as if you may have some excess white space around the graphics. Careful pruning of the original graphic in a photo manipulation program (use GIMP if you can't afford Photoshop) may yield positive results. --William Art Campbell wrote: > An easier way to do this may be to create a 1-row, two-cell table. The left > cell holds a unique tag that only calls the graphic on the reference page > with Frame Above or Below. The right cell holds the warning/note/whatever > text. > > The table will let you adjust more finely because now you have cell margins > and spaces to use to adjust the graphic's position. > > Art > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Larry Kovner wrote: >> Hi: >> >> I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags >> named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. >> >> They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to >> appear (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these >> tags. >> >> I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them >> Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page >> of the chapter tempate. In Paragraph Designer, when I select Frame Above >> Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border works the >> way I need it to. >> >> For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, I imported >> the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. It works. >> The problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so >> that is is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image >> is too high above the text, which creates too much space. >> >> I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I >> need. Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually >> add the graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. >> >> Looking for some advice. >> >> Thanks, Larry ___
Adding graphics in a reference page
Larry, We use the 1-row, 2-celled table method that Art described and it works well in both unstructured and structured FM. See pages 1-8, 1-9, 1-17, and the reference page in the attached file. However, there is a gotcha when using the TCS to import files into RH. The graphics are missing from the cell in RH because graphics on the reference page are not mapped into RH. We have not found an acceptable workaround for this yet. Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems == -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:32 PM To: Larry Kovner Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Adding graphics in a reference page An easier way to do this may be to create a 1-row, two-cell table. The left cell holds a unique tag that only calls the graphic on the reference page with Frame Above or Below. The right cell holds the warning/note/whatever text. The table will let you adjust more finely because now you have cell margins and spaces to use to adjust the graphic's position. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Larry Kovner wrote: > Hi: > > I am developing templates for a client. ?They asked me to create four tags named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. > > They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to appear (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these tags. > > I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page of the chapter tempate. ?In Paragraph Designer, when I select > Frame Above Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border works the way I need it to. > > For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, ?I imported the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. ?It works. ?The problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so that is is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image is too high above the text, which creates too much space. > > I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I need. ?Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually add the graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. > > Looking for some advice. > > Thanks, > Larry > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adding graphics in a reference page
> I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags > named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. I don't recall if anyone else mentioned this, but another option is to set up these items and use the Auto-Text plugin to insert them into the document as needed. This method can be more flexible than using reference pages. It's a great plugin and cheap! Find it here: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ Mike Wickham
Adding graphics in a reference page
Hi: I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to appear (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these tags. I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page of the chapter tempate. In Paragraph Designer, when I select Frame Above Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border works the way I need it to. For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, I imported the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. It works. The problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so that is is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image is too high above the text, which creates too much space. I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I need. Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually add the graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. Looking for some advice. Thanks, Larry ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adding graphics in a reference page
Hi: I am developing templates for a client. They asked me to create four tags named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to appear (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these tags. I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page of the chapter tempate. In Paragraph Designer, when I select Frame Above Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border works the way I need it to. For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, I imported the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. It works. The problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so that is is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image is too high above the text, which creates too much space. I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I need. Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually add the graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. Looking for some advice. Thanks, Larry
Adding graphics in a reference page
An easier way to do this may be to create a 1-row, two-cell table. The left cell holds a unique tag that only calls the graphic on the reference page with Frame Above or Below. The right cell holds the warning/note/whatever text. The table will let you adjust more finely because now you have cell margins and spaces to use to adjust the graphic's position. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Larry Kovner wrote: > Hi: > > I am developing templates for a client. ?They asked me to create four tags > named Notes, Caution, Warning, Tip. > > They want colored borders above and below each tags and a gif file to appear > (to the left) when text is selected and changed to one of these tags. > > I created four graphic frames with the colored borders (calling them > Note-Top, Note-Bottom, Tip-Top, Tip-Bottom and so on) in the Reference page > of the chapter tempate. ?In Paragraph Designer, when I select > Frame Above Pgf and Below Pgf for each of the four tags, the colored border > works the way I need it to. > > For the small gif images associated with each of the note tags, ?I imported > the graphic into an anchored frame within the graphic frame. ?It works. ?The > problem is I am unable to customize the spacing around this image so that is > is parallel with the text. when applying the tag to text, the image is too > high above the text, which creates too much space. > > I've tried everything and cannot adjust it to the space requirements I need. > ?Another other option is to insert an anchor by the note and manually add the > graphic, that works, but it's not what they are expecting. > > Looking for some advice. > > Thanks, > Larry > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
