Disk vs memory
Shot in the dark, but if that FrameMaker file or a previous version of it was ever run through Webworks to create some form of online help, then under the \temp folder you'll find a mif version of it. Paul -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+pgrigg=checkpoint@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+pgrigg=checkpoint.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:56 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as pgrigg at checkpoint.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pgrigg%40checkpoint.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Disk vs memory
All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the disk referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Disk vs memory
I think they're probably lost, but you could try searching for *.fm* files because some time-saved files have a system-generated suffix. Assuming Windows, make sure your search includes hidden and system folders. You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins work under cover of night... When the users are in bed. Art On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the disk referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Disk vs memory
Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files. They have to back up the network regularly. If they can't give you the latest, at least they should be able to restore to a recent save. So it won't be a total loss. Good point Clara. But for the update process they copy all dirs and files to a replica server, and then back to the production server when done. They can't find the updated files on the replica. It turns out that our rework should not take more than a half day, so more the nuisance than anything. You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins work under cover of night... When the users are in bed. I like your attitude Art. I've tried that in the past, and also asking for notification before they begin. I may have to go higher. On the other hand, they might reply that REAL tech writers work in a secured source environment, which I will be looking into more aggressively. Thanks, Mike Long ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Disk vs memory
You've probably lost your files for good. Unless you specifically set up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic feature to make backups. This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out there that help in this regard. I use a free one called Karen's Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder structure I want, on the schedule I set. All of my work has three copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual intervention by me. This has really saved my butt a few times! Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the disk referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/scavanaugh%40nat-sea ttle.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Disk vs memory
Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files. They have to back up the network regularly. If they can't give you the latest, at least they should be able to restore to a recent save. So it won't be a total loss. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the disk referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/clara.hall%40crossma tch.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Disk vs memory
Microsoft has released a great similar tool, SyncToy. I love it. ;- ) Got backups everywhere Art On 1/30/07, Steve Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've probably lost your files for good. Unless you specifically set up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic feature to make backups. This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out there that help in this regard. I use a free one called Karen's Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder structure I want, on the schedule I set. All of my work has three copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual intervention by me. This has really saved my butt a few times! Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the disk referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/scavanaugh%40nat-sea ttle.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Disk vs memory
Shot in the dark, but if that FrameMaker file or a previous version of it was ever run through Webworks to create some form of online help, then under the project_name\temp folder you'll find a mif version of it. Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:56 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the disk referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/pgrigg%40checkpoint.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Disk vs memory
All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat
Disk vs memory
Depends how you have things set up. If you have been working from the network, and selected for FrameMaker to create a backup file, I'm afraid the default is to place the backup file in the working directory (right next to each other, it's daft!). I don't think FrameMaker keeps a local cache on the client machine I'm afraid.. Sorry. I hope someone else has a more encouraging answer for you. *heads off to commit changes to SVN!* Gordon -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+gordon.mclean=grahamtechnology.com at lists.frameusers. com] On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com Sent: 30 January 2007 15:56 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Gordon.McLean at grahamtechnology.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gordon.mclean%40grahamte chnology.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com
Disk vs memory
I think they're probably lost, but you could try searching for *.fm* files because some time-saved files have a system-generated suffix. Assuming Windows, make sure your search includes hidden and system folders. You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins work under cover of night... When the users are in bed. Art On 1/30/07, Michael.Long at thomson.com wrote: > All, > > My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker > yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers > yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone > tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume > is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? > > I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between > computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are > stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the > disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't > turn up the targets. > > Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > Mike Long > Team Leader, User Documentation > Thomson Medstat > > > > > ___ > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Disk vs memory
> Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files. They > have to back up the network regularly. If they can't give you > the latest, at least they should be able to restore to a > recent save. So it won't be a total loss. Good point Clara. But for the update process they copy all dirs and files to a replica server, and then back to the production server when done. They can't find the updated files on the replica. It turns out that our rework should not take more than a half day, so more the nuisance than anything. > You might also tell your network guys that REAL sysadmins > work under cover of night... > When the users are in bed. I like your attitude Art. I've tried that in the past, and also asking for notification before they begin. I may have to go higher. On the other hand, they might reply that REAL tech writers work in a secured source environment, which I will be looking into more aggressively. Thanks, Mike Long
Disk vs memory
You've probably lost your files for good. Unless you specifically set up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic feature to make backups. This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out there that help in this regard. I use a free one called Karen's Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder structure I want, on the schedule I set. All of my work has three copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual intervention by me. This has really saved my butt a few times! Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as scavanaugh at nat-seattle.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/scavanaugh%40nat-sea ttle.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Disk vs memory
Can't you ask your network admin to restore your files. They have to back up the network regularly. If they can't give you the latest, at least they should be able to restore to a recent save. So it won't be a total loss. :) -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+clara.hall=crossmatch@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+clara.hall=crossmatch.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:56 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Disk vs memory All, My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't turn up the targets. Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. Thanks, Mike Mike Long Team Leader, User Documentation Thomson Medstat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as clara.hall at crossmatch.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/clara.hall%40crossma tch.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it.
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Microsoft has released a great similar tool, SyncToy. I love it. ;- ) Got backups everywhere Art On 1/30/07, Steve Cavanaugh wrote: > You've probably lost your files for good. Unless you specifically set > up an alternate location for backup files, there isn't an automatic > feature to make backups. > > This is a good time to point out that there are some great utilities out > there that help in this regard. I use a free one called Karen's > Replicator (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp) It > makes backups from whatever folder structure I want, to whatever folder > structure I want, on the schedule I set. All of my work has three > copies, one on my machine, one on the file server, and one on a backup > server, and all of this happens behind the scenes without any manual > intervention by me. This has really saved my butt a few times! > > > Steve Cavanaugh > Sr. Technical Writer > NAT Seattle Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Michael.Long at thomson.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Disk vs memory > > All, > > My associate and I have just discovered that all our work in FrameMaker > yesterday is likely lost. The network people were updating servers > yesterday and unknowingly lost our files and probably others. Can anyone > tell if and where I can find those files on our C drives, which I assume > is the "disk" referred to in Frame doc? > > I recall and find references in Frame doc to the interaction between > computer memory and disk, which suggests that copies of all saves are > stored on C. But I find no information identifying a location on the > disk that files are saved to. A search of C for the .fm files didn't > turn up the targets. > > Tips are welcome--the sooner the better. > > Thanks, > Mike > > > Mike Long > Team Leader, User Documentation > Thomson Medstat > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as scavanaugh at nat-seattle.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/scavanaugh%40nat-sea > ttle.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
