RE: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
I think I'd add doing an update of all xrefs into that workflow before saving closing the book. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs I think I might be trying to do something that I shouldn't, but I'm not sure. I have a lot of new in-book xrefs to add, so I am finding the first such instance, setting up the xref, then copy/pasting it to all other required locations in the book. What I' actually doing is replacing a plain-text version of a heading with an xref to the heading, to ensure consistency. What's happening is that I get no unresolved xrefs, but after I've closed the book files and then reopened them, many of the pasted copies of the xref have become unresolved (maybe those that were pasted into a different chapter to the one from which the original xref was copied, but I've not checked for this in detail). Bringing up the xref dialog on the unresolved xrefs just gives a pick list of xref markers within the current chapter. Am I trying to do something FrameMaker doesn't support? I though I'd done this before and it had worked, but I can't swear to it. FrameMaker 7 on Mac -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
I think it has to do with wither the cross-reference source and destination are in the same file. If the source (the place were the cross-reference is located) is in File A and the destination is in File B, I think you can copy that cross-reference to File C without a problem. Likewise if the source and destination are both in File A, you can copy the cross-reference to other places in File A. But if the source and destination are both in File A, you may not be able to copy the cross-reference to File B. Likewise if the source is in File A and the destination is in File B, you may not be able to copy the cross-reference to File A. I'm not 100% sure about all this. I've just noticed certain combinations don't work and certain do. If anyone has more definitive information, please let us know. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 28-Feb-13 3:07 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: I think I might be trying to do something that I shouldn't, but I'm not sure. I have a lot of new in-book xrefs to add, so I am finding the first such instance, setting up the xref, then copy/pasting it to all other required locations in the book. What I' actually doing is replacing a plain-text version of a heading with an xref to the heading, to ensure consistency. What's happening is that I get no unresolved xrefs, but after I've closed the book files and then reopened them, many of the pasted copies of the xref have become unresolved (maybe those that were pasted into a different chapter to the one from which the original xref was copied, but I've not checked for this in detail). Bringing up the xref dialog on the unresolved xrefs just gives a pick list of xref markers within the current chapter. Am I trying to do something FrameMaker doesn't support? I though I'd done this before and it had worked, but I can't swear to it. FrameMaker 7 on Mac ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
At 16:18 +0200 28/2/13, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: I'm not 100% sure about all this. I've just noticed certain combinations don't work and certain do. If anyone has more definitive information, please let us know. As Fred explained to me off list, FrameMaker stores an in-document xref differently to an ex-document xref, without a file path. This means - as several of you have said - that pasting an in-document xref to another document in the same book will not work. Thanks everyone. You learn something new every day - whether you intend to or not ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
I do the same thing on a small scale all the time (21 files in my book). But in order to avoid the unresolved problem I take the following steps. 1. all files in the book are open 2. after pasting the repeated xref, double-click it to bring up the xref dialog 3. ensure the Marker Type and Cross-Reference Markers match properly 4. click the Replace button to update the link and ensure it's live It sounds like a lot of work, but it only takes a few seconds - and it's a lot faster than creating a repeated xref from scratch. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:29 AM To: Shmuel Wolfson; Fred Ridder; Harro de Jong; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs At 16:18 +0200 28/2/13, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: I'm not 100% sure about all this. I've just noticed certain combinations don't work and certain do. If anyone has more definitive information, please let us know. As Fred explained to me off list, FrameMaker stores an in-document xref differently to an ex-document xref, without a file path. This means - as several of you have said - that pasting an in-document xref to another document in the same book will not work. Thanks everyone. You learn something new every day - whether you intend to or not ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
At 10:08 -0800 28/2/13, Alison Craig wrote: I do the same thing on a small scale all the time (21 files in my book). But in order to avoid the unresolved problem I take the following steps... Neat trick: I'll remember that. Many thanks. -- Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
Steve Rickaby wrote: I have a lot of new in-book xrefs to add, so I am finding the first such instance, setting up the xref, then copy/pasting it to all other required locations in the book. ... What's happening is that I get no unresolved xrefs, but after I've closed the book files and then reopened them, many of the pasted copies of the xref have become unresolved (maybe those that were pasted into a different chapter to the one from which the original xref was copied, but I've not checked for this in detail). I just tested this, it works like that for me too. (FM9) The xref you paste into a different file will become unresolved. Basically it will try and find the xref marker in the current file, instead of the file you copied the xref from. There is a workaround: 1. Paste the xref into a different chapter. 2. resolve the xref. The xref will now contain a reference to the correct file. 3. Copy the resolved xref 4. Now you can paste the xref from step 3 into all other chapters. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
That's one of the reasons I prefer to put all my content into a single .fm file. My books typically have only three or four files: booknameFM.fm for front matter used only for PDF, booknameTOC.fm, and sometimes booknameIX.fm. Once upon a time computers weren't powerful enough to handle a 200-page .fm file, but that hasn't been the case for a long time. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote: I do the same thing on a small scale all the time (21 files in my book). But in order to avoid the unresolved problem I take the following steps. 1. all files in the book are open 2. after pasting the repeated xref, double-click it to bring up the xref dialog 3. ensure the Marker Type and Cross-Reference Markers match properly 4. click the Replace button to update the link and ensure it's live It sounds like a lot of work, but it only takes a few seconds - and it's a lot faster than creating a repeated xref from scratch. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
