Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
I have to say I'm surprised, too. This is Conversion to Structured FrameMaker 101. -j On 2014-05-23 13:18, Rick Quatro wrote: You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com *From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Despopoulos *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 4:51 AM *To:* Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com *Subject:* Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud *From:*Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com mailto:t...@bstw.com *To:* Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks. -- Johan Anglemark Tel: 0708-65 10 88 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Theresa, Rick is correct on this. The tables are not that difficult to set up and, even if not 100% accurate in the conversion, they would save a lot of handwork. However, a hour or so of cutting and pasting might be the greatest way to convince yourself of that. Craig From: r...@rickquatro.com To: despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; t...@bstw.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:18:08 -0400 You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing inc.585-366-4017r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 4:51 AM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker* Save as HTML* Open HTML in browser* Open a new DITA topic in Maker* Select the chapter and copy from the browser* Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cudFrom: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
I finally spent some time helping Theresa and found out that her ultimate goal was to produce ePub and Kindle output. So, with FrameMaker 12, she didn't need to go to structure at all; she could just run her unstructured documents through the included Publish feature of Frame 12 and get what she wanted. I did show her how conversion tables work for future reference. Rick -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Johan Anglemark Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 7:51 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? I have to say I'm surprised, too. This is Conversion to Structured FrameMaker 101. -j On 2014-05-23 13:18, Rick Quatro wrote: You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud From: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 4:51 AM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud _ From: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
No doubt you're right, Rick. I'm in the If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail mode. I think Smart Paste is a great feature. Also, I think you can use it with zero thought in this case... All the gestures are menu commands already in the products. Worse, DITA is probably overkill -- OTOH, DITA might be a good format. Look at the Project Gutenberg DITA versions of classic texts. Here is a very quick way to convert a book to DITA without thinking about it much at all. For a one-off, this might be easy enough to do. I'm also thinking Smart Paste is a good way to get Word = HTML = Structured Maker. I think there's more promise in that use case. From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com To: 'Chris Despopoulos' despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; 'Theresa de Valence' t...@bstw.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 7:18 AM Subject: RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? You guys like to do things the hard way! Conversion Tables are so easy to set and simple to use, especially for a simple structure like you have. I am sorry, but Smart Paste is not the best way to do this. Theresa, I offered to help you, but haven't heard from you. Oh well, have fun with Smart Paste. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 4:51 AM To: Theresa de Valence; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Open the HTML in a browser. The idea of Smart Paste is that it knows how to take different formats of data on the clipboard and convert it to the given Maker Structure App on the fly. Under the covers it uses an XSLT -- But It think the DITA Topic struct app comes with Smart Paste already set up. DocBook may also be set up. Anyway, if you opened the chapter in Maker, then it should be a ton of body paragraphs, with maybe a title, right? In that case, saving as HTML will create a ton of p elems. Copy those from the browser, and Smart Paste will turn them into a bunch of DITA p elems. I guess this is kind of round-about. But it looks like it would be very easy, and let the computer do most of the work. * Open your chapter in Maker * Save as HTML * Open HTML in browser * Open a new DITA topic in Maker * Select the chapter and copy from the browser * Put the insertion point in the DITA topic/body and choose Smart Paste Now you have the chapter in Maker, with structure. Smart Paste will go further than that... It can do lists and tables, for example. And nesting (I believe). It's just my latest favorite feature, so I figure you should use it for everything, including databases and cleaning your closet. :) cud From:Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/22/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. I saved the file as .htm and the name of the file in Frame was still .fm, but I can see that the .htm exists. What do I open the .htm with? If I choose Frame, a dialogue box pops up wanting to know what kind of document it is, e.g. RTF Japanese, SGML, Text, XML Thanks.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
On 5/21/2014 6:56 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rjauact= 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBgusg=A FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg This link is not resolving, Rick. Could you tell me the name of the publication and maybe I can look it up? Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
FM12 really uses conversion tables rather than RoboHelp style mapping? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Hi Theresa, Download this publication: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rjauact= 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBgusg=A FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg and look at chapter 4. It tells you how to create conversion tables to add structure to unstructured content. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de Valence Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:32 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? Hi Framers, I'm trying out my new Frame 12 by trying to produce an ebook in several formats. I'm using the out-of-copyright Agatha Christie's A MYSTERIOUS AFFAIR AT STYLES. Is there a fast way to wrap each paragraph with a [Para] tag? I.e. to mark a whole chapter of text and then add a Para tag to each paragraph. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
On 5/21/2014 1:26 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into a DITA topic. Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph element (also a p) If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which Structured Application to use. If I pick none, an error pops up with Unable to validate because no DTD or Schema was specified in the XML file but continue? I say yes. When I open the file, I get this Structure View: (I did this once with the paratag as Body and once as Para) -Root |--Title |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998413 |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998414 |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998415 I'm presuming this is correct? Cntrl-A to copy the entire file Open New Dita file New topic The first time (paratag Body), I found the Element marked p and clicked Paste Special. I chose Rich Text Format, but all of the text appears in the structured view under one single p element. The second time (paratag Para) I clicked Smart Paste and got this error message Smart paste could not convert clipboard data to structured content. What am I doing wrongly? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Theresa, This is not the most effective way of structuring unstructured content. Like I said in my previous email, you need to use a Conversion Table which is outlined in Chapter 4 of the manual I referred you to. Contact me offlist and I will try to walk you through it. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Theresa de Valence Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:42 PM To: Chris Despopoulos; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/21/2014 1:26 PM, Chris Despopoulos wrote: Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into a DITA topic. Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph element (also a p) If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which Structured Application to use. If I pick none, an error pops up with Unable to validate because no DTD or Schema was specified in the XML file but continue? I say yes. When I open the file, I get this Structure View: (I did this once with the paratag as Body and once as Para) -Root |--Title |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998413 |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998414 |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998415 I'm presuming this is correct? Cntrl-A to copy the entire file Open New Dita file New topic The first time (paratag Body), I found the Element marked p and clicked Paste Special. I chose Rich Text Format, but all of the text appears in the structured view under one single p element. The second time (paratag Para) I clicked Smart Paste and got this error message Smart paste could not convert clipboard data to structured content. What am I doing wrongly? Thanks. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as r...@rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
I'd say what you're doing wrongly is saving as XML first. Save your unstructured doc as HTML, then copy/smart-paste into the body tag of a new DITA topic. This is just a quick way to get lots of structure for free. If you're talking about a novel, you should really have nothing but p tags anyway. You should look up Smat Paste in the docs. It's really an interesting feature. Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into a DITA topic. Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph element (also a p) If I save the chapter as XML, Frame pops up a window asking for which Structured Application to use. If I pick none, an error pops up with Unable to validate because no DTD or Schema was specified in the XML file but continue? I say yes. When I open the file, I get this Structure View: (I did this once with the paratag as Body and once as Para) -Root |--Title |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998413 |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998414 |--Body (Para) | A- | ID = pgfId-998415 I'm presuming this is correct? Cntrl-A to copy the entire file Open New Dita file New topic The first time (paratag Body), I found the Element marked p and clicked Paste Special. I chose Rich Text Format, but all of the text appears in the structured view under one single p element. The second time (paratag Para) I clicked Smart Paste and got this error message Smart paste could not convert clipboard data to structured content. What am I doing wrongly? Thanks.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Structured Framemaker Developer's Guide Google that and it should come up. -Original Message- From: Theresa de Valence [mailto:t...@bstw.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:25 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/21/2014 6:56 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rja uact= 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2 F9.0%2 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBg usg=A FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg This link is not resolving, Rick. Could you tell me the name of the publication and maybe I can look it up? Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Or try this link http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:30 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote: Structured Framemaker Developer's Guide Google that and it should come up. -Original Message- From: Theresa de Valence [mailto:t...@bstw.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:25 AM To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags? On 5/21/2014 6:56 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=2cad=rja uact= 8ved=0CFoQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2 F9.0%2 FStructuredDev%2FStructure_Dev_Reference.pdfei=Y5N8U7-aMpOvsASp8YHwBg usg=A FQjCNHaESsSmE6osFRp5Qd78-nRIM_rvQsig2=5c7A0uUg0yPsQFqdLQzwPg This link is not resolving, Rick. Could you tell me the name of the publication and maybe I can look it up? Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is there a fast way to wrap unstructured text into [Para] tags?
Save the chapter as HTML, copy it, then use Smart Paste to paste it into a DITA topic. Every P should translate into the correct DITA paragraph element (also a p) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
