don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:57 PM
> To: framers@l
- Original Message -
From: "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
I've redefined over 60 shortcuts so they open a catalog instead
of creating an override.
idder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:57 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
> I've redefined over 60 shortcuts so they open a catalog instead
> of creating an override.
Of course, IMO the ultimate redefinition solution is to redefine the
shortcuts so they apply character and/or paragraph formats. What
could be simpler than redefining CTRL+B to apply a bold character
form
Now if Ron (of all people) could be intimidated into compliance, then
it *must* work! LOL!!!
Seriously though, you get more mileage from shared knowledge than from
systematic limitations.
On 1/17/06, Ron Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I'm a perfect example of this. As I wrote, when I sta
> One reason is to adjust text pagination, for final revision.
> Overriding keep-with, widow/orphan, start-position, and some other
> properties of paragraph formats may be necessary. However, it's easy
> to manage or restore original formatting by one or more of these
> methods:
Trust me... if yo
ssage-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Bill Swallow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
Bill:
One reason is to adjust text pagination, for final rev
And I'm a perfect example of this. As I wrote, when I started using
Frame, I was told in no uncertain terms to stay the heck away from the
toolbar. Fearing the wrath of the production guru, I complied. ;)
In conclusion, if you are a manager, don't fix the interface, simply
intimidate your work
Bill:
One reason is to adjust text pagination, for final revision.
Overriding keep-with, widow/orphan, start-position, and some other
properties of paragraph formats may be necessary. However, it's easy
to manage or restore original formatting by one or more of these
methods:
* Save a pagin
Bill,
You're singing to the choir dude. ;-)
I planned out a global template for the long term. It's worked well for over
four years and some 100+ manuals so far. What you describe as "The benefits"
are exactly what I'm reaping as a result. It's a beautiful thing! Certainly
worth the little bit of
> I favor the idea that quality starts with designing the process to avoid
> mistakes.
What a silly notion! ;-) LOL!!!
I totally agree with you, Joe.
> If we agree that formatting standards for documents produce quality
> documents, then logically we should set up our tools so that those
> stand
> Bill Swallow wrote:
> > Being a manager and until recently a template
> owner, I completely disagree. UI tweaks passively
hinder
> misuse. Proper training and education for writers
actively
> prevents misuse, and even initiates their own
investigation
> into other ways to prevent needless headac
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
> Maybe we could start a new thread, "the horrors of FM inline styles,
> and how I survived the experience." ;-)
>
> Might be fun, eh?
Might be. ;-)
Horrors:
Bill Swallow wrote:
> Being a manager and until recently a template owner, I
> completely disagree. UI tweaks passively hinder misuse.
> Proper training and education for writers actively prevents
> misuse, and even initiates their own investigation into other
> ways to prevent needless head
Bra-vo!
-Original Message-
I've redefined over 60 shortcuts so they open a catalog instead of
creating an override.
___
You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or v
> If you're in charge of template compliance, and especially if you're a
> tech pubs manager, you might want to learn how to customize the FM
> interface -- it's much easier to avoid overrides and ad hoc formatting
> if the tools for creating them simply aren't there. :-)
Being a manager and until
At 9:25 am -0700 17/1/06, Combs, Richard wrote:
>If you're in charge of template compliance, and especially if you're a
>tech pubs manager, you might want to learn how to customize the FM
>interface -- it's much easier to avoid overrides and ad hoc formatting
...and Silicon Prairie's Paragraph an
John Wilcox wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please
> reply off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week.
> Thanks for your time!
>
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
Well,
> Maybe we could start a new thread, "the horrors of FM inline styles, and how
> I survived the experience." ;-)
>
> Might be fun, eh?
Might be. ;-)
Horrors:
* inability to globally update a document from a template (let's say
you need to change style based on rebranding)
* inability to get consi
In documents that will endure and need to be updated, its always via
character styles
In "throw-away" docs (e.g. one-time memo, fax cover page...) I use both
named styles and ad hoc formatting: Control-B, Control-I, etc.,
depending on what is set up in the template.
In structured docs there are
Character catalog. Always.
On 1/16/06, John Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
> off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your time!
>
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select
t those of TuVox, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andrew Becraft
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:40 PM
To: framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
John Wilcox wrote:
Press Ctrl+B & Ctrl+I
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Wilcox
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:30 PM
To: 'framers@lists.FrameUsers.com'
Subject: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
This came up as a possible style
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Andrew Becraft
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:40 PM
To: framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
John Wilcox wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue
PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Andrew Becraft
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:40 PM
To: framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
John Wilcox wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
&g
Hi, John.
John Wilcox wrote:
This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your time!
A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
I create
When I started using Frame a number of years ago, I was told in no
uncertain terms by the person who designed the template to stay away
from the Bold and Italic buttons. In fact, I was told to assume they
didn't exist.
So for me, at least, since I've kept that lesson with me always, it's B.
R
John Wilcox wrote:
This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your
time!
A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
Or:
C: Create s
> From: Spreadbury, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I must assume you are looking at Unstructured FrameMaker users.
Yes, Unstructed FM. I should have specified that. :)
jw
___
You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To
Character catalog
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
___
You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.
John,
I must assume you are looking at Unstructured FrameMaker users. In
Structured FrameMaker, if you haven't accommodated your Character Tags
with an Element, or Elements, both of the methods you list are blown
away as soon as you reapply the EDD.
My answer is through a Phrase Element that has,
31 matches
Mail list logo
